Discussion on gems, rates, conspiracies and great snipes






What's up with the price on those gems (radiant star)

I can't think of any other reason than that they are duped. What other theories are possible?

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 12 2012, 02:44 PM

its priced below production cost. so yes tehre is a problem with price. would you make a radiant star and sell 8mil and like the price?

aleune:
supply and demand? how about you produce me a radiant star gem of any kind from picked up gems and sell it to me at market price now

1. How about you place a gem in a gear and sell it to me below gem cost then?
2. Yes, changing changing char yet they would sell off their green gems. at 10m. 1m on asian server.
3. I'm not asking if it is cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I'm not asking to be told if it's cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I KNOW it's cheaper to buy it off AH than to produce it which is why i'm asking. I'm asking for theories to why its cheap.
4. I'm not going to dispute your supply and demand theory because it's well thought out genius level -- just pure utmost incredible intelligence. Thanks for participating.

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Added on October 8, 2012, 10:35 amIt's ridiculous. Even if people are quiting the game, who would sell for a mil gold, which is probably enough to feed an insect.

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 8 2012, 10:35 AM

1. Smart of you. Smarter of others to buy it.
2. Produced at 15.4-17.5m to sell at 1m. We're talking about theories and not about where we play. This topic is about Gem price theory, not casual its a game afterall talk. Fun to some, not so fun to others it's subjective if you do understand that subjectivity exists. Once again, topic is about gem price theory.
3. Once again, please stay on topic. It's cheap for many reasons -- MANY to you means demand & supply??
4. Price is derived from many factors, as you quoted 'many reasons'. It's not as simple as that. I have reason to raise an eyebrow on his price, and many will agree. You are firm on clever theory -- demand and supply, Economics 9090002.5.. so thanks for your input. Would be good to hear others now. Good thing someone pasted a worthless link earlier on 1m rates and actually a discussion on it.. of which many idiots didn't even figure out this demand and supply part. So now I have more opinions. I like many opinions... but i like your demand and supply opinion, no, firm theory the most.

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Added on October 8, 2012, 1:13 pmoh yah, so when can i buy a 5m radiant star gem from you? I want it produced with your love.

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 8 2012, 01:13 PM

Yeb, from the feedback I hear from gem traders, the rate they buy at is the same price, so either there's a big seller or actually our beloved company's been doing biz with gems "legally"

Cannot argue with him one.

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Everyone in teh world sees things in his perspective.

I mean for a wiz, if he/she already has 1 radian star emerald, why would he make another and then sell it at hehe MARKET hehe demand and supply HEHE price.

But yeah, listen to theorycrafting guru, who is also businesscrafting guru. Bliz dislikes market liquidity, doesn't help biz.

well said polarbearz

price of anything is of course ultimately derived based on demand and supply

but 1m@asia? that's like 95% quit, remaining players fully equipped

if based on quitters then we must have had a lot of quitters by now who sold for rmah of which others bought cheap? i mean if quitters really just sold off everything then so much for them returning.. even for 1.0.5.

i can accept this if people are selling it cheap for real money.. but selling for less gold don't quite make sense. they'd take the gold and then lose even higher transaction fees @ rmah?

sell gem/gem+item for gold
and then sell gold at rmah

is just silly.. so much loss

one could sell at rmah cheap then someone else buy gems there to sell for gold.... and cycle it but it makes no sense unless even after 15% fee theres profit still.

inflation or supply and demand or not, there has to be some foul play earlier on causing an overabundance of of gems.

someones playing with market rates, its too awkward, tehre any news of relation to it? new ver coming soon perhaps?

with a sudden change in price, quite difficult to not believe there are gem cheaters who got banned.

such a price hike also happened when gold botters got banned

Updated topic to reflect your idea

demand and supply moves for a reason

and a sudden spike like this..... well, more likely a sudden supply removal or a surge in demand, but looking at xfire charts -- demand? impossible. im gonna go with some cheaters got banned

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 12 2012, 03:19 PM

nah, theorycrafter here says it's supply and demand. gem price spike is just a COINCIDENCE with server restart.

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 12 2012, 03:33 PM

i notice price goes up right after there's a ban wave. then settles down again. something fishy..

a note on gems

certainly supply and demand as i can see today.
5.4mil (last day) -> 11mil for topaz
and a drastic change in price for generally all gems

the game changed suddenly i guess... otherwise a huge surge in players... or otherwise..... a huge strange disappearance of mass gems (stolen by gem thief??).

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 29 2012, 12:22 PM

dear gem clever SIFUS and theorycrafters

pls tell me even though AH sales is slowing down now.... how come gem price go up??????????????

suddenly everybody wanna buy gems????

?

or suddenly gems don't drop anymore ???

?

or just smile at gem price low and gem price high?

sifus and theorycrafters don't accept duping theory still i guess, that's why no reply

what you're missing is theorycrafter insert gem in weapon and sell for cheap

because theorycrafters here first say many people play then don't play anymore so just insert gem into gear then sell and then quit. (yes for gold too when quitting)