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 Buying a new laptop? NEED RECOMMENDATIONS? V17, Kindly FOLLOW the FORMAT TQ~!

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post Oct 5 2012, 08:39 AM, updated 13y ago

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Well that was mighty quick --> Moving on to Laptop Recommendation Thread V17

Thanks alot to everyone who helped, especially bot lee_what2004 sifu for his countless + priceless recommendations notworthy.gif notworthy.gif *and not to mention his efficient model, spec and price updates!

Expressing sincerest gratitude to nexus2238, Acid_ruleZz, and fJok3R for helping to recommend when I'm not around notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Last but not least, thanks alot to all the others who've helped with price and spec updates!

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This thread is specially made to offer laptop/tablet PC recommendations to EVERYONE
However, in order for us to recommend you with laptops/tablet PCs which suits you the most, we would require some basic information from you. Hence please kindly state your the following when posting:
1. Preferred Brand
2. Budget
3. Usage
4. Preferred laptop/screen size



Laptop models and associated prices can be found here: LYN Notebook Price Catalog V3

With the help of the sifus here, we hope that you will be able to find the best laptop for your usage~
Happy Hunting!

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 5 2012, 09:29 AM)
I was asking for advices on previous thread, and have been recommended a few laptops: Thanks  thumbup.gif

Ideapad G780, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M + (1600x900)@RM2699[3.0kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm)
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB,backlit keyboard optional
Vostro 3560, i7-3632QM + AMD HD7670M + 32GB SSD + 750GB(7200rpm) HDD + (1920x1080)@RM3209[2.57kg], 8GB, W7HB; colors: red/silver/bronze
N56VZ-S4079V, i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650M + (1920 x 1080) + BluRay@RM3599[Bang&Olufsen], 4GB, 1TB, W7HP, subwoofer and backpack

I went examining the display set of these and I also run into the MSI CX70 mentioned above. I find:

1. The G780 glossy screen is distracting.
2. The Inspiron and Vostro is good, the problem is I run a lot of spreadsheet, and these model don't have num key, which means I need to bring along a num pad everywhere.
3. The Asus looks nice, but the trackpad .... I can't drag and drop, and generally have a hard time getting used to it.
4. The MSI has a nice keyboard, but does not seems to be common ... worry about support.
5. I have no problem with the weight of all models.

Really appreciate your opinions:
1. Between the Inspiron and Vostro, which one has a better specs on paper?

2. The problem is all the display set don't have spreadsheet installed, so I can't really tell. Is 1600x900 on a 17.3" display the same number of lines with 1920x1080 on a 15.6"?

Thanks for help  notworthy.gif
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The Vostro 3560 has a better CPU, but the Inspiron 15R has a better GPU. Dell Vostros are built almost entirely of matte materials, so they'll be much nicer to use outdoors, and are not fingerprint magnets hmm.gif
Personally I would prefer the 3560 here because:
- matte surface, I've used a couple of 3450 before and is pretty impressed with them
- faster HDD speed@7200rpm, the performance difference is significant from a 5400rpm one, despite the fact that both has 32GB mSATA
- more color options? laugh.gif Personally I really like the more conserved and matured design of Vostro units

The 3560 runs on W7HB though...

In my view, 1600x900 works best on 15.6" notebooks; whereas 1920x1080 works well on 15.6" and works best on 17.3" notebooks...
Its a bit waste to only have 1600x900 on a 17.3" monster hmm.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 5 2012, 11:46 AM)
Thanks for your pointers  thumbup.gif All of you have been of really great help  notworthy.gif

1 last thing, will all these models be pre-installed with Win8 once it is released this month? (I am aware of the USD14.99 upgrade option, but prefer a clean version rather than upgrade  tongue.gif
I remember the last time when Win7 was released, laptop OEM seems to switch from Vista to Win7 quite quickly.
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At this stage only one Lenovo laptop comes preinstalled with w8 laugh.gif
but sooner or later all will be refreshed with W8 nod.gif
Its just a matter of whether you can wait or not laugh.gif
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QUOTE(franstormer @ Oct 5 2012, 03:30 PM)
Hi, thanks for the recommendation, but i just found out about how poor asus's aftersales services are >< is there any other brand which has a decent aftersales service?
Heard toshiba and dell is quite good but im not sure about the models. cheers.

btw what do u guys think about this?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2535178
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The G480 and G580 are pretty decent machines for the price, as long as you don't mind installing an OS yourself nod.gif
14"
Lenovo G480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M@RM1799, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS, *no USB3.0

15.6"
Lenovo Ideapad G580, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M@RM1699, 2GB, 500GB, freeDOS, 1 yr warranty

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QUOTE(arslow @ Oct 5 2012, 04:52 PM)
Preferred Brand = anything
2. Budget = less than 4k, prefer 3.5k i possible
3. Usage = office/surfing, VMWare for backtrack 5, no games AT ALL
4. Preferred laptop/screen size = either 14 or 15, 15 prefered

weight = less than 2kg( actually this is the most important part laugh.gif)
and also need AT LEAST HD+(my eyes spoiled by my n55sf ready :crying:)

So, great sifus, is there anything out ther that fits my criteria? sad.gif

Checked out Spectre, but too bad I cant really upgrade the RAM and SSD( can but must dismantle a huge part of the lappy rclxub.gif)
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15.6" notebooks that are less than 2kg are very rare at this time sad.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Oct 5 2012, 04:56 PM)
how about 14 inch? sad.gif
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Pretty much the Spectre 14 which you have already tested laugh.gif
Not many notebooks have HD+ resolution and are still light I guess...
Closest would be:
14"
Dell
[Ultrabook]XPS 14, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT630M + 32GB SSD + 500GB(5400rpm) HDD + (1600x900)@RM3799[2.1kg], 4GB, 8-cell, backlit, spill resistant keyboard
[Ultrabook]XPS 14, i7-3517U + Nvidia GT630M + 128GB SSD + 500GB(5400rpm) HDD + (1600x900)@RM4299[2.1kg], 8GB, 8-cell, backlit, spill resistant keyboard

Otherwise the Asus ZenBook (13") with FullHD, spoil your eyes brows.gif

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QUOTE(arslow @ Oct 5 2012, 05:21 PM)
is the XPS 14 user replaceable for the RAM and SSD? hmm.gif
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According to here, the HDD/SSD can be upgraded as long as the casing size is compatible...
It din't say anything about the RAM though hmm.gif
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-X...ok.79716.0.html

However, according to users in notebookreview, the RAM can be upgraded nod.gif
http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-s...s-lounge-3.html
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QUOTE(arslow @ Oct 5 2012, 05:55 PM)
the thing is I'm very used to the nice workspace that HD+ gives me, impossible to downgrade lol. These manufacturers really need to wake up doh.gif

HD+ less than 2kg, matte would be bonus, izzit so hard, huh, Dell, HP,ASUS , Lenovo??y r u guys so mean to me? tongue.gif

the HP sleekbook are fantastic, but the screen doh.gif

Spectre is good but upgradeability doh.gif
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If you can compromise on weight, then at least there are some from Samsung and Sony laugh.gif
I guess you can't have the best of everything

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QUOTE(arslow @ Oct 5 2012, 06:28 PM)
true true. But I got strong feeling of some kind of a "refreshed Spectre" that might come out with 8gb RAM, sure sambar tongue.gif

Zenbook U500 also very gooding. if got ULV version without GPU and only single SSD would be great too. There might be a new range of zenbook by AUS with win8 launch I guess nod.gif
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Definitely, Asus hasn't really targeted on 14" premium ultrabooks yet, so its highly likely that more will come that fits that particulra niche hmm.gif
Of course, need to wait lo sad.gif


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QUOTE(Sridev Pro Designer @ Oct 5 2012, 06:30 PM)
Hi, does the Inspiron 14z have USB3? Or could you please suggest laptops that have USB3? (Below RM2500) thanks biggrin.gif
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Almost all current laptops support USB3.0 now nod.gif


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QUOTE(Sridev Pro Designer @ Oct 5 2012, 06:34 PM)
Question about GPU. How good is the IntelHD3000? Can it run games without lag? Also, IntelHD3000 vs NVIDIA GeForce 9400M; which one performs better?
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9400m is very old alraedy right?
Intel HD3000 should be much better
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QUOTE(Sridev Pro Designer @ Oct 5 2012, 06:39 PM)
Can HD3000 run Microsoft Flight Simulator X?
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I think can gua based on the requirments laugh.gif
Not too sure

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QUOTE(ahmadikhwan301 @ Oct 5 2012, 08:07 PM)
Can someone help me?

1. Preferred Brand : Any brands would be alright
2. Budget : Around RM 2000 ( Would be better if it can be lower)
3. Usage  : Multimedia and gaming (mostly BF3 on low setting)             
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : Anywhere around 13" - 15".

P.S. I'm a student so budget can't go to high.
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Can consider these:
14"
Acer V3-471G-53214G75, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M@RM2099[2.3kg], 2GB, 750GB W7HP, 3 years warranty
Asus A45Vm-VX113v, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M (2GB)@RM2099[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HP
Dell Inspiron 14R, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M@RM1899[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm)
Dell Inspiron 14R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M(28nm Kepler)@RM2049[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm); backlit keyboard optional
HP Pavilion G4-1302ax, AMD A8-3520M + AMD HD7450M@RM1899, 4GB, 640GB(5400rpm), W7HP
Lenovo Z480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT630M@RM1999, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HP, colors: grey/red/blue
Toshiba Satellite L840-1024X, i3-2370M + AMD HD7670M@RM1849[2.12kg], 2GB, 640GB, W7HP

The Inspiron 14R SE has the best GPU for this price range nod.gif

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QUOTE(myafdal1989 @ Oct 5 2012, 11:23 PM)
between Asus A55 and Lenovo G580 which one better?
with the same spec i5 and Nvidia GT630. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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The A55 is more expensive because it comes with preinstalled W7 Home Premium, and also 2 years international warranty nod.gif
However, in terms of specifications, both are similar like you said, and performance will be similar as well~
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QUOTE(myafdal1989 @ Oct 6 2012, 12:03 AM)
Laptop for gaming that weight nearly like ultrabook weight
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??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(HangB @ Oct 6 2012, 02:12 AM)
- Intel® Core™ i7-2640M 2nd gen
- 4GB(1x4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 RAM
- 500GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
- AMD Radeon HD6630M 1GB
- Dell vostro

is this ok for gaming?medium or high?
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The dual core i7 is a bit overkill for gaming laugh.gif
The AMD HD6630M is more or less simlar in terms of performance to the Nvidia GT630M, so its low-med settings hmm.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Oct 6 2012, 11:47 AM)
which one is a better deal?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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The Envy 4 packs more punch in terms of GPU performance nod.gif

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QUOTE(alfredlck @ Oct 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: Any
2. Budget: RM 3200 +-
3. Usage: Programming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: Ultrabook with Matte Screen/Anti-glare

Thanks !  smile.gif
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These perhaps?
13"
Samsung [Ultrabook] NP530U3C, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD@RM2699[1.52kg], 4GB, W7HP

14"
Samsung [Ultrabook] NP530U4C, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT620M + 24GB mSATA + 1TB HDD@RM2999[1.81kg], 6GB, ODD, W7HP
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Oct 6 2012, 11:57 AM)
guys wanna know is i5 and i7 are big different for notebook/laptop ? wat is the differet in performance, multitasking capability, disply quality, gamming capability ? Thanks for advise.
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i5 is basically sufficient for normal usage i.e. office work, web surfing, watching movies etc.
At this stage, gaming performance is still not governed much by the processor although some games are slowly being optimized for quad core processors nod.gif
It all depends on your budget, if you can fork out more for a quad core i7 (especially so for a gaming laptop that is 15.6" or larger, then its advisable to get one)
having a quad core i7 will help alot for insane multitasking. Opening multiple browsers, watching movies at the same time is not considered as multitasking for the case of i7 laugh.gif Usually people would get an i7 for programs that involve intensive calculations or renderings.

Display quality is not directly related to the CPU laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Oct 6 2012, 01:50 PM)
thanks, but though i7 means the heat dissipation and power consumtion also > i5,........
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That is the thing, which is why I specifically say that its good to have when
i) you have the budget
ii) you are getting a >15.6" notebook (they have better cooling; and they are not really known for good battery life in the 1st place) laugh.gif


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QUOTE(mdnurman @ Oct 6 2012, 02:23 PM)
Recently my friend was nominated as a webmaster for an educational/health institution. he wants the laptop to be very portable but able to fulfill his task. He is only looking at the content and the friendliness of the website while there will be an IT guy doing all the programming. as he only do the 20%-30%% of the job of a proper webmaster, which ultrabook is suitable and the cheapest (dont want to spend to much with only 20%-30% responsibility) for him. any brand will do. TQ
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I have no idea what a webmaster is supposed to do laugh.gif
This perhaps? Cheapest already
13"
Lenovo [Ultrabook]S300, Pentium 997 + Intel HD3000 @RM1199[1.8kg], 2GB,500GB(5400rpm), freeDOS; W7HB@RM1399, no ODD, 1 yr warranty


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