with a budget of 4-5k ... u can start with a good radio ... highly recommend the futaba 8FG ~ 1.3k
then decide on your choice of helis

within your budget
u can either buy new or 2nd hand ... IC powered or electric

bigger is better coz its is less sensitive and handles wind better
bigger is oso much more expensive ... unless u go the IC way
IC = internal combustion .. u will need to know how to tune the engine well in order for it to operate well
bad tuning normally results in poor power and engine shut down during flight

i myself is an electric guy so cannot help u in the IC dept ...
electric is just plug and play
but batteries has higher cost in the long run

your remaining 2k+ ... (if u choose to go the electric way)
i would choose either a 450 size to be cost effective
a decent 450 would be slightly less than 1k
300-400 for budget batts and charger (high end chargers cost much more)
scale body apprx 300-700 depending on your choice
thats almost 2k spent

since u are starting from nothing ... and no RC experience with helis
i suggest u keep the remaining balance of your budget for repairs and parts

get a simulator to practice ... this way u can learn alot while crashing less
then practice and practice more
when u feel confident enuff ... put the scale body onto the heli

good luck !!!

my experience with walkera is lack of local support for parts
and the parts are not cheap at all

most of my multirotors are kit or scratch build based and i add on the power system and electronics myself
depending on what u wanna do ...

i used to have the NAZA ...
and i would personally AVOID the NAZA .. dont ask me why ... hahaha

tak fly kot ... not happy with my quad settings yet
and no time to work on the quad oso ...
got new place ... cantek .. grass and sungai kecik and pokok ..
and nearer than p6 .. hahahaha
will only go there when my quad ready and happy

i have not been to hobbysportz in a long time ... but not cheap la i know
rcsmart may have more choices ... and maybe slightly better prices

i get most of my rc stuff online .. even my batteries
now there is a very competitive local seller ... myrccorner.com.my ... i think
his 450 heli and lipo batts are price very competitively
dunno if he sells radio (8FG) ..

i think the 911 is just smaller than the f46
otherwise it is basically the same thing ..

actually u may be sirprised that f46 is much easier to control .. compared to the 911
the only pro for 911 is its more crash resistant

dunno ... mr daddoo very quiet nowadays
me oso quiet liau .. temporary relax sikit

ps.. how to do multi quote ah ?? me internet idiot

i have flown 911 .. similar size CP helis ... 250 size helis .. 450 size helis .. 600 size helis
just telling u from experience ... hehehe

i have even tried flying the 911 into wall (not so hard la) to see how crash resistant it was
the result ... i did not even have to go pick it up .. i just throttled up and flew it again

911 can be found for around rm100 or less and comes with 2 batteries and charger and radio
no big $ there ... just buy and fly it la

try mymegastation.com ... they are based in KLANG MALAYSIA and does shipping
or direct from hobbyking la


yaa ... happened to someone ... hahahaa
me oso slowing down kow kow ... so no point for me to poison him .. hehehe


thanks ... it works .. hahahaa

check main gear with pinion gear meshing


yaa ... me slowing down kow kow now
only do rc work or fly when mood really comes ... or coz wanna go yumcha with the gang ... hahaha


it is coming to 4yrs for me
thing for me is ... boredom comes when there is no challenge or revolutionary stuff to play with
then again .. if u say the $ part ... u cannot compare a rm10k radio with a rm200 radio laa .. hahaha

Micro helis ah ??
Why not just get the cheap v922 ? Less than rm300 .. and it comes with radio charger battery .. hehehe
My old walkera 4g6s gathering dust on shelve la

LOS orientation experience can only be gained thru practice (whether SIMULATOR or real life)
learn the hard way ... master each orientation b4 moving on to the next ... tail in ... side in ... the other side in ... then nose in
always try to find someone to fly with .. flying alone is boring and one of the fastest way to kill your interest in this
AR DRONE is only good for short distance as it is wifi operated using I/ANDROID devices and will not go far ... u will need proper RC stuff as it will go out of range very quickly when u FPV .. it is a very stable flyer though
it preferred to use a SIMULATOR with a proper radio size controller ... that way u get the "feel" of the stick instead of sliding around the screen on the phone

that is basically what u need ...
choice is video transmission is important .. eg if u flying u are using 2.4 obviously u will not wanna use 2.4 as video
try to place vtx and rc rx as far apart as possible to avoid interference

try to get someone to spot for u on the 1st few flight to avoid mishaps

the rest u will figure out as u go by .. hehehe

edit ... i use servo connectors to connect between these video devices
u will only need 3 wires (video power & ground) if u do not need audio which u prolly wont coz all u will hear is the motor sound unless u power off and just glide high up

This post has been edited by QiW: May 10 2013, 08:07 PM

depending on which vtx u choose
typically .. the specs includes weight
eg. this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...ransmitter.html
weighs 25gm ... but thats without antenna and wires attached laa

some like this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...amera_NTSC.html
comes in a casing ... that casing oso acts as heatsink
but the casing is super heavy ... can be removed .. u will need to make a lighter fin type heatsink for it la

honey bee ... i think still able laa
provided u are not expecting crazy range la
a 200mW 5.8 system should be good (with the proper antennas of coz)

eh ... u ppl dont simply say la
later i kena from the "real" sifoos when i go fly sites .. hahaha

long time no play ... hehehe

well ... replaced a couple of props and balanced them and i am up again .. hehehe

both different type of fun ...
questions for u ..
are u looking into long term or only just wanna try and see whether u like it or not ?
what is your budget ?
are u willing to make repairs and learn ?
where are u located ? << go to a nearby fly site to check out other flyers and chat with them