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Alvin L
post Mar 28 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Mar 27 2016, 07:50 PM)
Oops. Pharmacist.
Yea. My cousin couldn't complete her training due to the saturated pharmacist graduate.
/k salary =20k per mth.
So, pharmacist without a license can consider useless in Malaysia? Besides doing sales..
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I don't think there is any jobs which could make u earn 20k per month as a fresh grad. or someone who has juz obtained a license to practice.
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post Mar 28 2016, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(grisslebear @ Mar 3 2016, 11:45 AM)
Hello, I could not give you the answer on the placement as there are many pharmaceutical companies and their vacancies might difer.

I do not know of the process of engaging PRP's in pharma companies. In my time we enter as an already registered pharmacist. In my case I've already worked for 4 years plus before joining pharma. So its a different ball game. freshies like you might be subject to competitions from other applicants as you all have nothing much to contribute in the beginning but more of learning from the work in industries and slowly master the processes.

Why you want to go industry? Do u actually know what a pharmacist in industries does? Its not easy. working hours might be long and work is tough. You sure you want?
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As JPA has officially announced liberalisation for their scholars to do PRP in the private sector, I'm eager to do my PRP in the pharmaceutical companies. rclxm9.gif

hope to get my PRP placement soon though, 8 months of waiting currently cry.gif
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post Apr 5 2016, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 21 2016, 09:31 PM)
Appreciate some feedback from those who have studied and are studying pharmacy at:
* IMU
* AiMST

on the good and the bad (lecturers, facilities, environment, fellow students, etc).

Many thanks.

P/S Feedback from other uni are most welcomed as well.
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Hi I'm a graduate from IMU and here's what I thought of the course offer:

The good: IMU really makes us learn and expose to everything. We had pharmaceutical industry visits, community pharmacy placement, government hospital placement, research/survey semester. So it's pretty good after we graduated since we have some experience on everything we can do.

The bad: It's slghtly pricey compared to other university, currently it's over 200k for four years. IMU is taking huge numbers of students nowadays (200+ for the July/September batch, fewer for February batch) to an extend every grouping is having too many students.

Hope it helps

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post Apr 5 2016, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(IamJsLim @ Apr 5 2016, 01:08 AM)
Hi I'm a graduate from IMU and here's what I thought of the course offer:

The good: IMU really makes us learn and expose to everything. We had pharmaceutical industry visits, community pharmacy placement, government hospital placement, research/survey semester. So it's pretty good after we graduated since we have some experience on everything we can do.

The bad: It's slghtly pricey compared to other university, currently it's over 200k for four years. IMU is taking huge numbers of students nowadays (200+ for the July/September batch, fewer for February batch) to an extend every grouping is having too many students.

Hope it helps
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Noted and many thanks.
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QUOTE(IamJsLim @ Apr 5 2016, 01:08 AM)
Hi I'm a graduate from IMU and here's what I thought of the course offer:

The good: IMU really makes us learn and expose to everything. We had pharmaceutical industry visits, community pharmacy placement, government hospital placement, research/survey semester. So it's pretty good after we graduated since we have some experience on everything we can do.

The bad: It's slghtly pricey compared to other university, currently it's over 200k for four years. IMU is taking huge numbers of students nowadays (200+ for the July/September batch, fewer for February batch) to an extend every grouping is having too many students.

Hope it helps
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At the rate the pharmacy graduates are coming up, the situation will be worse than medical graduates very very soon.

Looks like the public universities are doing their part to limit the number of students but the private universities are just ramping up the intake of students.
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post Apr 5 2016, 09:08 AM

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there is no moratorium on pharmacy numbers....not that crucial perhaps, not as much money involved, and traditionally pharmacists graduates have many other roles other than as dispensing pharmacists...
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post Apr 25 2016, 06:13 PM

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biggrin.gif hello. T have concerns to ask anyone here about how you spend your RM250 book voucher. confused.gif confused.gif Is there some recommendation pharmacy and medical books (it is better to mention where) that should buy for a fresh pharmacy student (long terms use: BNF). For your info, I am currently in semester 2 year1 of bac of pharmacy. Thanks icon_question.gif icon_question.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif
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post May 8 2016, 01:06 PM

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Hey Guys,

Just was wondering. Have one excess box of Clopidogrel, Clavix, manufactured by Intas Pharma (one of the largest and most reputable generic manufacturers) from India.

Yes it is authentic and no I cannot get more. This is a one-off only. This box is huge. It contains 150 tabs (15 X 10). Unlike the standard Sanofi-Aventis Malaysian box of 28 tabs. If anyone is interested, please PM me.

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QUOTE(hoisun940 @ Apr 25 2016, 06:13 PM)
biggrin.gif hello. T have concerns to ask anyone here about how you spend your RM250 book voucher. confused.gif  confused.gif  Is there some recommendation pharmacy and medical books (it is better to mention where) that should buy for a fresh pharmacy student (long terms use: BNF). For your info, I am currently in semester 2 year1 of bac of pharmacy. Thanks icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_idea.gif
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As a pharmacy student based in the UK, I don' think a BNF is worth it for long term use as it is updated continuously and old BNF's might not be as useful in a few years. I attended a conference where the president of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society was present and there was a debate about the use of BNF's, and he mentioned that the aim is to go completely paperless into the future via online services like Medicines complete.

You might want to look into digital solutions but as a year 1 student, I don't think it's useful since by the time you graduate things might have changed a lot and online copies are expensive if you're not covered by your company. It's only useful in practice anyway.

I'd recommend Rang and Dale's Pharmacology (it's a classic). I used my book voucher on it and it's a good reference book. Also, if you have spare, consider getting Bad Science by Ben Goldacre and his other book on Bad Pharma. You can listen to his talk on TED too. Many of my lecturers recommend it as it introduces current problems in the pharmaceutical industry in relation to evidence based medicines. It'll help you to think about Evidence based medicines. An understanding of EBM will be very helpful in the future IMO.
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Anyone worked as a hospital pharmacist/is currently working as a hospital pharmacist in Malaysia atm? I've got some questions!

Also, anyone got any experience getting a hospital placement (unpaid) without connections? I've sent cover letters and CV's to many hospitals without a single reply. I think my cover letter is pretty impressive because I got it checked by multiple experienced people! I was rejected by Australian hospitals on the basis of how they have a policy of only letting students from local Uni's have placements with them because of the insurance involved.
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Has anyone here applied to MNC for PRP training? Not sure if I've been rejected without interview or their processing is very slow

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 16 2016, 11:51 PM)
Anyone worked as a hospital pharmacist/is currently working as a hospital pharmacist in Malaysia atm? I've got some questions!

Also, anyone got any experience getting a hospital placement (unpaid) without connections? I've sent cover letters and CV's to many hospitals without a single reply. I think my cover letter is pretty impressive because I got it checked by multiple experienced people! I was rejected by Australian hospitals on the basis of how they have a policy of only letting students from local Uni's have placements with them because of the insurance involved.
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what kind of questions?

try approaching smaller hospitals.. higher chances they will layan you..
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post May 17 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 17 2016, 09:22 PM)
what kind of questions?

try approaching smaller hospitals.. higher chances they will layan you..
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I forgot that you've graduated and probably passed your PRP already lol (man time flies, I remember asking questions in this thread like 3 years ago)

What are some smaller hospitals near KL/PJ

Also, for the PRP program, if you finish your PRP with hospital X, do you immediately progress as a qualified pharmacist in the same hospital? In the UK, you get "fired" once you finish your PRP-equivalent with said hospital, usually the hospitals will rehire you, but if they don't have space you'll have to find a job elsewhere.

Another question would be: Is it true that private hospitals are actually behind government hospitals in terms of the roles that can be played by a pharmacist?
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post May 18 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 16 2016, 11:46 PM)
As a pharmacy student based in the UK, I don' think a BNF is worth it for long term use as it is updated continuously and old BNF's might not be as useful in a few years. I attended a conference where the president of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society was present and there was a debate about the use of BNF's, and he mentioned that the aim is to go completely paperless into the future via online services like Medicines complete.

You might want to look into digital solutions but as a year 1 student, I don't think it's useful since by the time you graduate things might have changed a lot and online copies are expensive if you're not covered by your company. It's only useful in practice anyway.

I'd recommend Rang and Dale's Pharmacology (it's a classic). I used my book voucher on it and it's a good reference book. Also, if you have spare, consider getting Bad Science by Ben Goldacre and his other book on Bad Pharma. You can listen to his talk on TED too. Many of my lecturers recommend it as it introduces current problems in the pharmaceutical industry in relation to evidence based medicines. It'll help you to think about Evidence based medicines. An understanding of EBM will be very helpful in the future IMO.
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Thank you for your good advices .. I will look for the books you recommended.. :-) :-)
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post May 18 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 17 2016, 11:18 PM)
I forgot that you've graduated and probably passed your PRP already lol (man time flies, I remember asking questions in this thread like 3 years ago)

What are some smaller hospitals near KL/PJ

Also, for the PRP program, if you finish your PRP with hospital X, do you immediately progress as a qualified pharmacist in the same hospital? In the UK, you get "fired" once you finish your PRP-equivalent with said hospital, usually the hospitals will rehire you, but if they don't have space you'll have to find a job elsewhere.

Another question would be: Is it true that private hospitals are actually behind government hospitals in terms of the roles that can be played by a pharmacist?
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None. All hospitals in KL/PJ are quite big. Just like you, everyone else wants to get in too.

YOU won't get fired but you will get thrown into a reselection process again. If you are really really lucky you can get back the same place.

Yes it's true.

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IT’S NOT ABOUT COST – IT’S ABOUT SAFETY
My dear friends, before I wade into the developing story that is the future of our collective health, let me begin with a few of questions.

1) Do you check the items on your receipt when the bill comes at the end of a nice long dinner with your loved ones?
2) Do you read the instructions and safety messages when you assemble the latest piece of do it yourself furniture or gadget?
3) Do you keep the receipt of that awesome shirt you bought or that beautiful dress – just in case you might want to return or exchange it?

In this modern era of itemized receipts, page long EULAs and disclaimers, one glaring issue remains unseen or unnoticed that can greatly affect the well-being of our loved yours – of your child, your parent, your sibling or your friends. This is the lack of mandatory prescriptions in our healthcare system.

In a letter written to NST, a doctor has alluded to that by separating doctor’s consultation and dispensing, your healthcare costs will increase. In a separate letter to the same newspaper, a pharmacist provided evidence that the price of medications in a clinic setting can be more than 3 times as expensive in a clinic than in a community pharmacy.

However, I believe when it comes to health, cost is secondary to safety. No parent desperately seeking treatment to a sick child has ever asked first asked a doctor how much it will cost and if it is too expensive choose to go to another clinic to see which is cheaper. Likewise, we all go out to buy the best supplements and foods for our ageing parents. It is all about how safe and how beneficial it is for our loved ones.

Like the receipt after the payment of your latest iPhone or the ticket to that awesome Yuna concert, a prescription is a legal written record of what a prescriber is giving a person to treat his or her sickness. We need to make this mandatory so that every person in this country can have full control over their treatment and their life.

This is not about doctor against pharmacist. This is simply about letting us the consumers have the knowledge of what we are taking for our health and the choice that goes along with it. If we choose convenience by giving it at the clinic’s front counter to get our medicines or get confirmation and ease of mind by going to a pharmacist nearby, it is totally up to us. By not giving us a script, we are denied our basic right to know what our loved ones or we are swallowing.

All medicines are controlled substances with set tolerance levels of safety and danger. Act now and sign the petition below as the current draft of the RUUF fails to provide sufficient safeguards to patient rights and interests. Together we can make sure that our loved ones and us will stay safe.

Please sign this Petition to reject the RUUF NOW.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-against-ruuf
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Hi there, if by any chance anyone having Katzung Bacis & Clinical Pharmacology book and would like to sell it off, do let me know ya smile.gif thanks
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Hi there, i am just wondering does anyone has the sample Q for the latest pharmacy forensic exam? thanks!


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https://www.topuniversities.com/university-...cy-pharmacology

The best university in Australia and UK for Pharmacy has a campus in Malaysia. 2 Malaysian universities in top 50. Nice. No reason to send our scholars to overseas for Pharmacy education anymore. 💊
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Does anyone know when is the next SPA interview? I am a pharmacy graduates and now looking for job to start my PRP. Government side hasnt gotten any news on interview date =( Private side, all the factory and company not taking any or they just take in intern and choose PRP from intern based on performance. Kinda depressing. =/

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