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TSzstan
post May 15 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Exodus123 @ May 11 2014, 08:40 PM)
is it useless to study in the university that is not recognized by Pharmacy Board Malaysia?

http://www.pharmacy.gov.my/v2/en/content/l...acy-course.html
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yes it is quite useless if it's not accredited. there will be a super long delay in getting your PRP and FRP when you graduate.
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post May 16 2014, 05:57 PM

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anyone has experience on MPharm course at Uni of Manchester?
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post May 18 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 11 2014, 07:59 PM)
yes it's possible. the independent pharmacies are probably more approachable, especially if you are looking not to get paid.
write an official letter to that hospital or pharmacy or give them a call. best if you have connections.
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Have you tried? I just finished my first year so I'm just thinking of how I want to be productive with my holidays...
I mean, spending 1 month working unpaid sounds depressing....
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post May 18 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 18 2014, 10:20 PM)
Have you tried? I just finished my first year so I'm just thinking of how I want to be productive with my holidays...
I mean, spending 1 month working unpaid sounds depressing....
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erm no. personally i feel its a waste of time since I can't do much, especially as a 1st/2nd year student since your knowledge is not there yet, and my university have already arranged for us to get sent for training in a community pharmacy so it's more than enough for me. you would probably spend your days at the side observing or doing admin stuffs and not much clinical work anyways. if you are in UK/Aussie maybe can learn more la since they can let you do filling for scripts.
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post Jun 26 2014, 05:39 PM

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Hi everyone, i am a graduating UCSI pharmacy student, i did all my finals exam and now waiting for the results.

I had my interview in Putrajaya on April and everything went well.
However, just before i am moving back to my hometown, i received an email from my university stating that my SPM Bahasa Melayu did not have credit, which i got D, so they need to me take another Bahasa Kebangsaan Course, if not i won't be able to graduate.

Anyhow, i wont be able to graduate with all my friend in the coming August convocation and i need to take the course alone.

I am a chinese independent school student, i first enter this program using UEC results, which my BM is A, but then my spm results is not so optimistic as my secondary school do not provide tuition or anything to help us on SPM, so i went in blindly 5 years ago.

Now the problem is, even thou i graduate later than my coursemate, will i still eligible for posting as PRP?

I called every authorities, and they mentioned i will need confirmation of registration from Pharmacy Board and "LANTIKAN" from SPA to decide my posting.

My question is, whether am i eligible to register as a PRP in the Pharmacy Board? (with my current SPM results?)

I checked the SPA requirement for U41 position, it only stated require "LULUS" in BM SPM. So i assume the problem to be worried here is Pharmacy Board registration only.

The SPM BM retake registration is closed for this year, if the Pharmacy Board require my SPM BM to be credit, i will be wasting at least 1 year doing nothing waiting to sit for SPM again.

Can anyone enlighten me on this problem? I do not dare to tell my parents about this, they had pour every dime and penny on me, and i dont want to dissapoint them.

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post Jun 26 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jun 26 2014, 05:39 PM)
Hi everyone, i am a graduating UCSI pharmacy student, i did all my finals exam and now waiting for the results.

I had my interview in Putrajaya on April and everything went well.
However, just before i am moving back to my hometown, i received an email from my university stating that my SPM Bahasa Melayu did not have credit, which i got D, so they need to me take another Bahasa Kebangsaan Course, if not i won't be able to graduate.

Anyhow, i wont be able to graduate with all my friend in the coming August convocation and i need to take the course alone.

I am a chinese independent school student, i first enter this program using UEC results, which my BM is A, but then my spm results is not so optimistic as my secondary school do not provide tuition or anything to help us on SPM, so i went in blindly 5 years ago.

Now the problem is, even thou i graduate later than my coursemate, will  i still eligible for posting as PRP?

I called every authorities, and they mentioned i will need confirmation of registration from Pharmacy Board and "LANTIKAN" from SPA to decide my posting.

My question is, whether am i eligible to register as a PRP in the Pharmacy Board? (with my current SPM results?)

I checked the SPA requirement for U41 position, it only stated require "LULUS" in BM SPM. So i assume the problem to be worried here is Pharmacy Board registration only.

The SPM BM retake registration is closed for this year, if the Pharmacy Board require my SPM BM to be credit, i will be wasting at least 1 year doing nothing waiting to sit for SPM again.

Can anyone enlighten me on this problem? I do not dare to tell my parents about this, they had pour every dime and penny on me, and i dont want to dissapoint them.
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Hi. It is unfortunate that UCSI is again trying to screw student's life once again by informing them about all these 'bad news' at a much later time.

Well the requirements for you to graduate and what the Pharmacy board may be different. So unfortunately it's best that you retake the the BM course. However there should be no problems getting posting for PRP since it's already stated a lulus in BM is sufficient. Furthermore SPA only needs a pass. Personally my advice is just wait and see lor. Maybe by the time you finished your BM course you still haven't gotten any posting yet.

Good luck!
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post Jun 26 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 26 2014, 06:02 PM)
Hi. It is unfortunate that UCSI is again trying to screw student's life once again by informing them about all these 'bad news' at a much later time.

Well the requirements for you to graduate and what the Pharmacy board may be different. So unfortunately it's best that you retake the the BM course. However there should be no problems getting posting for PRP since it's already stated a lulus in BM is sufficient. Furthermore SPA only needs a pass. Personally my advice is just wait and see lor. Maybe by the time you finished your BM course you still haven't gotten any posting yet.

Good luck!
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But the registrar office in UCSI informed me that the registration with the Pharmacy Board will require a minimum of credit in BM in SPM.

So eventhou i finished the BM course in the Uni itself and graduated, if the pharmacy board do not register me as a PRP, i wont be able to get posted right?

So that is what i am worried about... Do you remember what are the requirement for a fresh graduate to register with pharmacy board besides having a degree from a recognized instituition? sad.gif

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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jun 26 2014, 06:11 PM)
But the registrar office in UCSI informed me that the registration with the Pharmacy Board will require a minimum of credit in BM in SPM.

So eventhou i finished the BM course in the Uni itself and graduated, if the pharmacy board do not register me as a PRP, i wont be able to get posted right?

So that is what i am worried about... Do you remember what are the requirement for a fresh graduate to register with pharmacy board besides having a degree from a recognized instituition? sad.gif
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Yeah i just checked. It seems like you need credit in BM and at least a B for bio/chemistry/physics.


yes unfortunately if the pharmacy board didn't accept you then you can't get posted. These updates were made in 2013. Probably why UCSI didn't inform you earlier.
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looks like there are two separate issues here....

the first is the spm bm requirement....

the second is the minimum spm reqjuirement for sciences and maths....

the later requirement is a new minimum requirement introduced only in 2011, and does NOT apply retrospectively....

so you need to find out the first (BM) requirement, when it was changed and whether it applies retrospectively....it should not.....but if it is an old requirement, then you are stuck....
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post Jun 26 2014, 07:31 PM

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I've been searching through the whole pharmacy board website and i couldn't find anything about it.

All it states is :
1) Fill in the form 1
2) Along with the certified true copy of the degree cerfiticate

That's all

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post Jun 27 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jun 26 2014, 07:31 PM)
I've been searching through the whole pharmacy board website and i couldn't find anything about it.

All it states is :
1) Fill in the form 1
2) Along with the certified true copy of the degree cerfiticate

That's all
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It was previously in this link http://www.pharmacy.gov.my/v2/ms/entri/sya...ajar-tahun.html

but i can't find the info on the website anymore hmm.gif

please refer to the first post in the topic i already copied and pasted the information of the website long time back and SPM credit is indeed one of the requirements.
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in that case, it is an old requirement, hence all MUST comply to get registration....ucsi has failed in it's duty by taking in students who did not qualify, and then failed within the 4 years, to ensure the student comply....

will be interesting in 2-3 years time, when doctors graduate without the required 5b in sciences and math in spm...and cannot get registration with mmc...it is well know several ipts med schools are still taking in underqualified students, and asking them to 'appeal' to mmc.....

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post Jun 28 2014, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 27 2014, 12:11 PM)
It was previously in this link http://www.pharmacy.gov.my/v2/ms/entri/sya...ajar-tahun.html

but i can't find the info on the website anymore hmm.gif

please refer to the first post in the topic i already copied and pasted the information of the website long time back and SPM credit is indeed one of the requirements.
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I do not have access to that page, can you print screen and put it up here please?

I am going to take all my documents and go to the jabatan farmasi and ask them about my case, see whether they could bring it to the board and consider my case as the only thing that obstructing me being posted is the SPM BM. Maybe i could retake SPM next year while being posted, as my request. i hope they could consider my offer thou sad.gif

I can just pray now.


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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jun 28 2014, 12:48 AM)
I do not have access to that page, can you print screen and put it up here please?

I am going to take all my documents and go to the jabatan farmasi and ask them about my case, see whether they could bring it to the board and consider my case as the only thing that obstructing me being posted is the SPM BM. Maybe i could retake SPM next year while being posted, as my request. i hope they could consider my offer thou  sad.gif

I can just pray now.
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STPM
-CGPA 3 dan ke atas termasuk sekurang-kurangnya B dalam subjek Kimia
i) Pemohon warganegara Malaysia wajib lulus Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Inggeris dengan sekurang-kurangnya mendapat gred C dalam Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) atau yang setara

ii) Wajib lulus minimum band 3 dalam Malaysian University English Test (MUET) sebelum pelajar bergraduat



A - LEVEL
3B ATAU 2A1C ATAU 1A1B1C dalam Biologi DAN Kimia DAN Fizik ATAU Matematik dengan sekurang-kurangnya B dalam subjek Kimia

(Dengan merujuk Sistem Skor Universities and Colleges Admission Service

(UCAS) yang dilaksanakan di United Kingdom bagi keputusan A-Level iaitu dengan ketetapan skor A+ = 140, A=120, B= 100 dan C=80)

* Keperluan 3B yang dicadangkan oleh LFM adalah menyamai jumlah skor 300 dengan B untuk matapelajaran Kimia

i) Pemohon warganegara Malaysia wajib lulus Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Inggeris dengan sekurang-kurangnya mendapat gred C dalam Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) atau yang setara



ii) Wajib lulus minimum band 3 dalam Malaysian University English Test (MUET) sebelum pelajar bergraduat


MATRIKULASI ATAU PRA-PENGAJIAN PERUBATAN DAN FARMASI ATAU FOUNDATION DALAM SAINS

Matrikulasi ATAU Pra-Pengajian Farmasi/ Perubatan dengan GPA 3.0 ke atas dengan sekurang - kurangnya B bagi Kimia


ATAU

Foundation dalam Sains dengan GPA 3.5 ke atas dengan sekurang - kurangnya B bagi Kimia

DAN

Program perlu di jalankan dalam tempoh sekurang-kurangnya 1 tahun

i) Pemohon warganegara Malaysia wajib lulus Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Inggeris dengan sekurang-kurangnya mendapat gred C dalam Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) atau yang setara

ii)  Wajib lulus minimum band 3 dalam Malaysian University English Test (MUET) sebelum pelajar bergraduat

iii) Lulus Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) dengan sekurang-kurangnya 5 B dalam Biologi DAN Kimia DAN Fizik DAN Matematik (ATAU Matematik Tambahan) DAN satu subjek lain di peringkat Sijil Persekolahan atau yang setara


DIPLOMA


Diploma Sains (Kimia atau Biologi atau Fizik) CGPA 3.75 dan ke atas termasuk B dalam subjek Kimia

ATAU

Diploma Farmasi CGPA 3.5 dan ke atas


i) Pemohon warganegara Malaysia wajib lulus Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Inggeris dengan sekurang-kurangnya mendapat gred C dalam Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) atau yang setara

ii) Wajib lulus minimum band 3 dalam Malaysian University English Test (MUET) sebelum pelajar bergraduat

iii) Lulus Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) dengan sekurang-kurangnya 5 B dalam Biologi DAN Kimia DAN Fizik DAN Matematik (ATAU Matematik Tambahan) DAN satu subjek lain di peringkat Sijil Persekolahan atau yang setara


IJAZAH PERTAMA DALAM SAINS

Ijazah Pertama dalam Sains CGPA 2.75 dan ke atas

(CGPA 2.75 = Gred C+)

NOTA:

Setiap pelajar perlu mematuhi syarat baru (A) dan syarat tambahan baru (B) (jika ada) seperti di atas sebelum meneruskan pengajian di peringkat ijazah farmasi.


it was like this last time. yeah it's best that you go to the pharmacy board directly.
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that list of requirements is based on the guideline for medicine introduced by mmc in 2011...and subsequently adopted by both dental council and pharmacy board....

you will need to clarify with the board what the requirements were BEFORE 2011....since you will have entered the course in 2010, this particular set of requirements do NOT apply to you....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 28 2014, 12:24 PM)
that list of requirements is based on the guideline for medicine introduced by mmc in 2011...and subsequently adopted by both dental council and pharmacy board....

you will need to clarify with the board what the requirements were BEFORE 2011....since you will have entered the course in 2010, this particular set of requirements do NOT apply to you....
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Thanks alot for your clarification, i will go on Monday, finger crossed cry.gif
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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jun 28 2014, 01:19 PM)
Thanks alot for your clarification, i will go on Monday, finger crossed  cry.gif
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so how was it?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 8 2014, 11:19 AM)
so how was it?
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Sorry for the late reply, so my story continues here.

I went to the pharmacy board and asked. The officer told me that,

1) the BM requirement is entry requirement for degree programme, it should have serve as a filter to filter off those who are not qualified at the first place.

But my uni let me through, but under one condition, I need to take up another BM course in order to graduate. In which my case, they didnt let me know any detail about this until i was about to graduate, delaying my graduation.

2) The registration process only require personnel with DEGREE from accredited institution and IC for identity confirmation.

Besides that, i also called up the SPA department and confirmed the minimum BM requirement for U41 Pegawai Farmasi position. It is confirmed that the minimum is LULUS only as stated in the website.

In conclusion, i think my case is basically solved unless my university want to screw me with some absurd reason again. If not, i will register as soon as my BM result come out. sad.gif
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QUOTE(dienotherday @ Jul 15 2014, 05:46 PM)
Sorry for the late reply, so my story continues here.

I went to the pharmacy board and asked. The officer told me that,

1) the BM requirement is entry requirement for degree programme, it should have serve as a filter to filter off those who are not qualified at the first place.

But my uni let me through, but under one condition, I need to take up another BM course in order to graduate. In which my case, they didnt let me know any detail about this until i was about to graduate, delaying my graduation.

2) The registration process only require personnel with DEGREE from accredited institution and IC for identity confirmation.

Besides that, i also called up the SPA department and confirmed the minimum BM requirement for U41 Pegawai Farmasi position. It is confirmed that the minimum is LULUS only as stated in the website.

In conclusion, i think my case is basically solved unless my university want to screw me with some absurd reason again. If not, i will register as soon as my BM result come out.  sad.gif
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That's good to know. Thanks for the info and all the best!

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