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post Aug 6 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(fhanem @ Jul 30 2013, 02:30 PM)
oh..i see..tq for u info...
will try to do it and posted the result back here
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sorry to say that without fullfilling the board of pharmacy requirements your niece is not eligible to practice eventhough there is a uni who is willing to take her in

QUOTE(al427 @ Aug 5 2013, 08:32 AM)
Hi, I m interested to pursue pharmacy after my a level..yet, I m taking physics maths and chemistry and not taking bio, m I still eligible to study this course? I checked local private universities prerequisite on this course but most of them need bio as a entry requirement and it is too late for me to add 1 more subject now.. Is it hard to obtain a scholarship to study this course?is there any non-governmental company sponsoring pharmacy student?
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sorry biology is a required subject for pharmacy
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post Aug 15 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(fhanem @ Aug 15 2013, 12:47 PM)
hmm..yeah i think so too..if she really wants it..then she has to retake biology paper again next year..
but what is surprising me is that, with that result she is eligible in taking medicine or dentistry...
i wonder why the mmc not enforcing tighter rules for medicine student..
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well with all the reports against the MMC these few days I am not surprised why.
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post Aug 24 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(polaris91 @ Aug 24 2013, 11:03 AM)
is anyone here expecting to graduate from an aussie pharmacy school this semester or next year? According to the latest SOL changes, pharmacist has been removed AGAIN which means the international students are no longer eligible to obtain a graduate visa to complete the registration to be a qualified pharmacist. sad.gif
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yeap. they changed the ruling in july
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post Sep 1 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Christine0510 @ Aug 28 2013, 05:14 PM)
Hi, i just got my A levels actual result and i got B (76) for chemistry and C (66) for biology. I want to know whether am i still able to study bpharm in IMU? Is Bpharm in IMU a very stressful course? Do they have long hour classes everyday?
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Why don't you contact IMU directly regarding your quieries?
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post Sep 7 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(assymessy @ Sep 6 2013, 06:09 PM)
Excuse me but later on after SPM I plan to take Pharmacy but  I am clueless. What are the differences between Pharmacy and PHarmaceutical Sciences?
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google?
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post Sep 7 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(assymessy @ Sep 7 2013, 11:27 AM)
I did.

Pharmacists are the ones dispensing drugs and such, while Pharmaceutical Scientists develop drugs and research new drugs and improve ways and such is it right ?
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well a pharmacist can do everything you mentioned above but a pharmaceutical scientist is only confined to research and or being a pharmaceutical sales rep (can earn more money than a pharmacist if you are good).
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post Nov 27 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(bsu3 @ Nov 21 2013, 02:07 PM)
btw, our company already got approval from MOH to conduct PRP training. If you wish to operate a your own pharmacy shop after PRP. feel free to contact us.
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which company do you represent?
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post Dec 1 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(brandonyap927 @ Nov 30 2013, 06:28 PM)
Hi~ I'm a MUFY student, just graduated this year and I'm currently waiting for my intake in next year Feb at Monash Sunway. I'm going take up pharmacy course and I'd already received the offer from the Uni. I'm planning to do some extra readings to prepare me for my degree studies but I'm clueless since I don't really know where should I start from and what sort of books should I read up. Besides, I've also heard that there are only very few seniors who will sell their textbooks as they will have to use them throughout their 4 years' studies. Is it true? Is that is the case, where can I get those books before my intake? I can't borrow from Monash's library since I haven't enrol in my degree course yet. Can someone guide me please? Thanks a lot in advanced. I'm just an average student, just doing ok during my foundation, so yea :\  I think I might need to improve my knowledge so that I won't have problems catching my studies?
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for first year students u won't have to worry about books as your seniors will probably sell theirs to you..well u can always read up physiology and organic chemistry for university level to begin with
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post Dec 11 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kevinlee19955 @ Dec 10 2013, 01:28 AM)
I'm currently an A-Level student. I have taken physics,chemistry and maths only.do I possible to study pharmacy as the post state that for a level it required chemistry,biology,physics or maths. I'm thinking that can I still study pharmacy without bio?
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yes you can if you took those subjects during your SPM. depending on the universities though. but chemistry and maths is a must and u have it.
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post Dec 17 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(june_c @ Dec 17 2013, 05:39 AM)
Hi, Lyn. I'm an A-level student and wish to pursue BPharm in UK.
I wish to get some real life experience in helping a pharmacist or something related so that i can put it in my personal statement, as well as to enhance my knowledge
Which is the best way should i gain these experiences ?
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well you can always apply to a retain pharmacy and ask them to take you in for awhile and let you observe. if you know someone in the hospitals you can do the same thing as well.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 6 2014, 08:17 PM)
pharmacists in msian retail pharmacies (it's not called community here) are salesperson.....or pseudo-doctors....or both....
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define pseudo - doctors?
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post Jan 8 2014, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(iLegend @ Jan 7 2014, 12:37 AM)
I think it's like retail pharmacists doing what doctors do the best - diagnosing the problems and giving out medicines?
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pharmacists are trained to diagnose minor ailments, no? if it's out of their scope then they should refer the patients to GPs.


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QUOTE(hazim_123 @ Jan 8 2014, 01:35 PM)
Hello everyone smile.gif

i just started doing foundation in bioscience :3. i havent really decided of what i wanna do in the future but i can change the course during foundation whenever i want. but yeah i am really interested in being a pharmacist and i got a few questions bout it.

1) when will i hv to do the forensic examination to be a registered pharmacist and will i still need to work for the government after that?
2) is it hard for a pharmacist to work in some drugs manufacturing company like for quality assurance/ quality control etc because if i were to take pharmacy id want to continue master in industrial pharmacy
3) which offers more income/better job satifaction: being a clinical pharmacist or industrial ? like is it boring to be an industrial pharmacist and are pharmacists really busy when working in hospitals ? ._.
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to get registered you have to sit for the exams. it is done twice a year. and no, you can't leave the government. there's an additional year of compulsory service.

2. not really

3. depends on individuals


QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 8 2014, 07:13 PM)
the 'new' minimum qualification is based on mmc guidelines as first published in 2011....to prevent poorly qualified students from taking up critical health science courses....

the scope of function of a pharmacist in msia does not include diagnosis and initiation of treatment....however, in uk, there has been a change in the relevant acts to task-shift some simple diagnostic functions to community pharmacists, to relieve some work load pressures off the gps...this is of course, within the public funded, 'free' uk national health service (nhs)...
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so i guess your idea of community pharmacists in malaysia is just to sell supplements and dispense whatever limited prescriptions that they can get then biggrin.gif
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post Jan 9 2014, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(hazim_123 @ Jan 8 2014, 11:53 PM)
so a total of 2 years compulsory service ?
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yeah 1 + 1

QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 9 2014, 08:17 AM)
that is not my idea....that is what the law says...
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there are after all pharmacist medicines...
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post Feb 14 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ismifadli @ Feb 10 2014, 10:36 PM)
hey guys... i need advise here...

i was taking diploma in science, during my first sem i got 3.56. then i managed to improve my cgpa to 3.73. Yeah, its quite poor. Then, i appeal to pharmcy UITM for last sep intake. Board pharmacy approve my application, however our Vice chancellor did not approve it. I cannot transfer from chemical engineering to pharmacy. i Was devastated acctually.

However, i would like to appeal for this sep intake, and also apply for Usm. My question, do you think i stand a chance for USM BPharm?? I really love biology. Every sem, i score an A, even for intor to human anatomy.

However, the quota for diploma students is lesser.
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good luck for your appeal.

QUOTE(tmtmnet @ Feb 14 2014, 02:03 PM)
excuse me, may i know which is the best private uni in msia for pharmacy? how is the future of pharmacy? any UCSI pharm students here?
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define best?

QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Feb 14 2014, 03:55 PM)
Hey i just graduated from overseas uni and we are trained more to community field and your place is very near to mine...but my question is, is it difficult to go into hospital once you decided to do your prp at community pharmacy?
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yes it is. there is a huge difference between hospital and community settings. but if you don't mind struggling to relearn then yes it is still possible.

QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Feb 14 2014, 03:59 PM)
Its not safe to learn/memorize drugs like that. For instance, metronidazole can be easily confused with azoles antifungals...
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metronidazole is probably the special case here

QUOTE(snowz28 @ Feb 14 2014, 04:07 PM)
Hello!
I have some concerns about this profession..

Since pharmacists obviously has a mega issue about its role here in Malaysia..
How do you suggest about this..?
Because as far as I know, the safest way to secure your pharmacy position is to open a pharmacy yourself. But not everyone has the finance to do that..
The next common path is the clinical pharmacist path, but that too, is quite saturated already.. and since economy isn't improving, I read online that many experienced/elderly pharmacists decide to stick on to their posts, leading to unemployment problems for fresh graduates..
What do you think about this..? (:

Furthermore, pharmacy seems like quite a narrow pathway..?
As in after graduating the basic degree, it's either clinical retail or industrial pharmacists already..
Is there any other postgraduate studies or career possible..? (besides business/sales... that honestly isn't rewarding now, or isit..? )
THANK YOU
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i have concerns for your concerns as well.

1. what do you mean by pharmacists have mega issues? what issues?
2. what do you mean by 'pharmacy' position? you are essentially a pharmacist once you pass your PRP.
3. there is more to pharmacy than clinical pharmacy. most fresh grads are still being absorbed into the work force at the current moment. malaysian pharmacy graduates are only being treated to well. it's the only place in the world where you don have to fight with other graduates for jobs.
4.there's also the MNCs, enforcements etc. how do you define rewarding? if you are looking at getting rich in the short run you are looking at the wrong course. go do accounting instead.

QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 14 2014, 04:34 PM)
Do you memorize the Generic, Chemical, and Proprietary Names? sweat.gif

For example,

ibuprofen = (±)-2-(p-isobutylphenyl)propionic acid = Motrin

acetaminophen = N-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)acetamide = Tylenol

fluoxetine HCl = (±)-N-Methyl-3-phenyl-[(α,α,α-trifluoro-p-tolyl)oxy]propylamine = Prozac
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we don't memorise the chemical names.
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QUOTE(tmtmnet @ Feb 15 2014, 12:06 PM)
Best as in their facilities, laboratory equipment, quality of lecturers and study environment
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maybe you should take some time and visit a few of the universities to get a more objective view..

QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 15 2014, 04:42 PM)
Most of us take paracetamol without giving much thought, to reduce fever, and to relieve some kinds of headache. However, I know all drugs produce toxic effects that can lead to death. What is the Therapeutic Index of paracetamol?

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paracetamol's therapeutic index is very wide... as long as you keep it below 4g per day its fine.. or 8 500mg tablets..

QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 15 2014, 04:48 PM)
Hi zstan and Rustaman69,

Could you name a few drug–food interactions that produce adverse or beneficial effects? My told me that drinking grapefruit juice inhibits the metabolism of the cholesterol-lowering drug atorvastatin, which increasing the drug’s effects. Is that true? ohmy.gif

The reason I asked these because I want to avoid undesired drug–food interactions, as well as to educate the young children. sweat.gif
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yes it's true.. most common would be warfarin and your leafy green vegetables.. there's a whole other list which you can google.
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 15 2014, 10:19 PM)
Thanks! I also heard if men take PDE5 inhibitors, they must avoid concurrent administration of grapefruit juice. Is that true? icon_question.gif
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yes. grapefruit juice is a metabolic enzyme inhibitor similar to PDE5 inhibitors. concurrent administration may increase the effects of the drugs.

anyway not really a problem for malaysians since most of us don't take grape fruit juice regularly.
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QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Feb 15 2014, 11:52 PM)
Agree with the paracetamol...yes maximum of 4g within 24hours...should be evenly spaced if possible.. biggrin.gif

I would like to add regarding the benefit of drug-food interaction...certain drugs are advisable to be taken with food to aid absorption or to reduce GI side effects....but this is indirect effect though

For drugs that can be influence by your diets, i suggest you to be consistent with it. If you eat green leafy veggies everyday or drink a glass of alcohol everyday before taking warfarin for example, just make sure you do not binge on them on certain days...the keyword here is consistent...
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errrr alcohol should be removed altogether.
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QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Feb 16 2014, 12:23 AM)
Is it? lol...yea because it inhibits vit k thingy??
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You have already graduated from a pharmacy school and you are asking me? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:14 AM)
After giving a careful thought, i'm still adamant with my first answer.
Just be consistent with the diet. If the patient previously consumed a few glass of alcohol everyday and then suddenly stop to take the medication, in practice, too reach the target INR is quite difficult. In fact the patient would be very unhappy if you interfere their daily routine. Again the keyword here is be consistent and do not binge on them on certain days. Sorry if you have to disagree.
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we are not just talking about the INR alone. alcohol interacts with a lot of drugs, especially warfarin and will affect their metabolism. patients on warfarin usually have other comorbidities. of course if they could get rid of the habit, it's the best. in the malaysian settings, drinking is not the norm here, unlike australia. so if we could get them to stop it's more the better. reaching target INR is not easy but it's not that difficult if constant monitoring is done and patient is compliant with their medications. and are you implying that pharmacists shouldn't interfere in their daily routine even though if it's detrimental to the patient's health because they would be very unhappy?

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