A very bad developer to watch out for:

PLENTIFIELD SDN BHD - Developers of Melaka Business Centre in Ayer Keroh

My experience with them:
- Bought a property in Sabah from them in 2009, a commercial shoplot run by Best Western hotel.
- Supposed to complete in Aug 2010.
- In Aug 2010 they told us delayed until Feb 2011.
- In Feb 2011 they told us delayed again until August 2011
- In Aug 2011 they told us delayed again until Feb 2012
- Now its Sep 2012 and property is still not handed over to me

- They are supposed to pay late interest of 8% pa to me. They refuse to pay.
- They are supposed to reimburse my loan interest payment (something like DIBS) - they refuse to pay for 2012
- They continually lied to us saying its completing soon and then suddenly they give me a letter saying that their engineers said in Nov 2011 asked for construction extension due to 'lack of manpower' and 'bad weather'.
- They are using said engineer's letter to get out of paying us late interest.

Overall, dishonest, lack of integrity, poor project management, poor customer service, poor everything.

Do not buy from this developer!!

If anyone has any other bad developers to share, it would be much appreciated also. Although these clowns are not blacklisted, we nee to know about them to save us alot of heartache!!

Talam

Talam in financial trouble.. the property going to be abandoned soon...

Sue them, and give letter of demand. Last time my developer also say all kind of excuse like ' found hard rock under the project site, need blasting', total delayed about 8 months, complete with consultant letter as well. Complete with pictures, monthly updates etc etc.

But gave re-imbursement more than 40K, use the money get free renovation.

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 27 2012, 01:26 PM

Yaya...sue them. If possible, form a society gather all the buyers then appoint a lawyer to sue them! Fight for your right!!!

Gark - at least your developer is more honest and willing to re-imburse something... that is a more honorable way to do it..lucky for you!

As for suing them - yes, I am considering. Unfortunately standard HDA rules do not apply to commercial property.. they did not actually breach the contract because contract says they are allowed to not pay late interest if they have official letter from consultant like the engineers letter. So, not sure what is the chance of winning the case if we sue..
Looks like we are in a bad position. thats why I'm posting this.. so all u guys out there be careful!

When you say Talam, you are referring to Trinity Corp? Because if not mistaken, they are now Trinity Corp?

There are two developers carried the name "Trinity". Trinity Corporation Bhd and Trinity Group of Company

If we said Zest is part of the Talam project, those LYN ppls in the Zest thread will get really piss off.

Yeah, I bet a lot of people keep asking the same question again and again. hehe. Trinity Group buiit Zest, Heron Residency, 19 Residence (all in Puchong) and got nothing to do with Trinity Corp

Did not get the re-imbursement straight away. Only after the joint buyers write letter to management, then only they give. Anyway the re-imbursement given as offset to loan.

If you want to sue, must act fast before they go bankrupt. The late purchaser sue also will get nothing when their company wind up.

bad weather and lack of manpower= lame excuse!! LoL

This devr already very popular since years ago, but people still buying them

Maybe because cheap?

Sub-sales

Please don't buy Trinity property...I have bad experience before

Hmm are you refering to the project in Melaka ??? As i know it is not even complete yet so how come they owe you late interest???
are you refering to some other project?

Bro which Trinity you are referring? The former Talam?

Involves risk. Unlucky, can cause headache and heartache. Unless from reputable developers (SPS, IJM, SD...) best is to buy what you see.
My 2 sen.

Currently they r launching condominium at Sri Kembangan

They only had 2 condos completed, either multi problems first ever project Heron or Zest ...

Dear All,

Do not buy from Zeus Properties Sdn Bhd at all costs. They gave me shitty problem literally. But I gave up in suing them cos I don't want to go through all the stress in suing them. Lousy service too. I find new defects every few months, but they rarely reply emails, unprofessional.

You can read my previous posts to understand what shitty problems I experienced in my condo unit.

since u r not suing them, means ur unit is on fire sale now?

So that's Trinity Group

KUALA LUMPUR: Trinity Group Sdn Bhd yesterday clarified that the company, its associate companies, directors and shareholders are not in any way linked to Trinity Corp Bhd (formerly known as Talam Corporation Bhd) or any of its subsidiary companies.

Trinity Group is an integrated property boutique developer, with its core business in property development and investment.

Managing director Datuk Neoh Soo Keat said news reports of Trinity Corp's debt recovery exercise over the past week have caused a lot of confusion among customers, business partners, shareholders and the public.

"Unfortunately, this happened at an ill-timed period for us at Trinity Group, as we had just launched our latest project, The Zeva @ Equine South.

"There have been numerous enquiries urging us to clarify the issue as many have mistaken our company as Trinity Corp. Thus, we hope this clarification will prevent further confusion," he told a media briefing.

Trinity Group suffered heavy losses in The Z Residence last year due to confusion in the company's name, Neoh said.

"We filed a suit in court to sue Trinity Corp in November last year and the trial ended on May 17 this year. Now we are waiting for the judge's decision.

"The most important thing for us is not the losses, but we want to maintain the Trinity Group's name since the company was established in 2004," he said.

On the recently launched Zeva project, Neoh said the take-up rate of its Block A and B has reached 90 per cent and "we expect the same response for Block C and D", which will be launched soon.

"We have a number of projects in the pipeline to be launched. With that, we are confident of achieving our RM560 million revenue target," he added.

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/12TRINIT/Article/

Is that SELL than Build house or Build then sell house?

why there are positive comments about Best Western Premier hotel sandakan in the tripadvisor website?
is this the same hotel as you invest?

thanks slappy to sharing this information abt Plentifield.
Unfortunately, im already booked a unit in Melaka Business Centre but still yet sign the snp.
thinking abt should i lose the booking fee or pay another 10k to 15k to sign the snp? any advice?

Hi Ataman,

I'm glad that Slappy had put up his experience with this developer,
at first i was confused as the project in melaka was still in progress so how come
Slappy is talking about late interest in my previous post.

After researching finally found out,
the project Slappy bought in Sabah is done by a company called Equity Leader S/B.
Which brings me & my friends to another queries,
Slappy bought in 2009, and the project suppose to ready at aug 2010.
Given all the delayed information, it did sound the developer is late but
doesn't want to compensate to Slappy as per his/her allegations.
Snp in commercial properties usually are 36months from date of signing
Snp. So if we do some easy mathematics, although developer delayed
in the project Slappy still doesn't qualify to claim any Late interest of 8% right?
So maybe the developer did pay out the late interest to other purchaser but not to Slappy
which cause him to be pissed and posting here ? (just my assumption)

DIBS i cant comment on it, however as investor based in Malaysia
DIBS is quite a new concept which is introduced in recent years.
However if the developer guaranteed DIBS then there should be a documents
or undertaking by developer. So Slappy can easily bring this matter legally and
most developer hate court case and settle it so i dont see any big problem there.
Unless the DIBS was guaranteed to him by sales agents who wanted to do the sales
and Slappy himself took it for granted without checking the documents properly.
Sadly this kind of things still happens among some irresponsible agents,
once i book a condo with DIBS but when i'm about to sign Snp i notice
nothing was written about it and everything the agent told me was a fraud
so i make a formal complaint to the developer and got extra 3% discount

Ataman, as investor we are responsible in all the documents we signed. So
my advice is make sure whatever the agent promised to you is written down
in the booking form & signed. Then keep a copy of it as proof. Any dispute with
developer show them the form and then let the developer settle it with their agents.
Make sure everything is stated in black & white before signing the Snp as after signing
it is too late to request for anything.
This is the safest way on purchasing.

I'm looking into their current project, it was interesting. Even make a visit to their office
in Melaka last week during Deepavali holidays. Building already 6th floor on structure.
Will be great if you can PM me what they offer you so maybe i could ask for the same
as i'm looking into buying it. Despite what Slappy said i think this project is worth investing.
Cant judge a box of apple based on 1 rotten apple right?

Look forward to your reply ataman.

thanks EdwinLN for the analysis
i went to the site last week too...it true that the project is still going on and up 6-7 floor already on block A & B only, but block C & D still nothing much progress.....

PM you as you request

cheers

This post has been edited by Ataman: Nov 22 2012, 09:59 PM

Eh just realised this threat,

We bought 4 units in Sandakan, two shops , a factory and a hotel, under the Equity Leader, In Sandakan we flip the shop gain about Rm 200k ++, and the factory we bought at RM 500k now worth about RM 1million, renting to the goverment at Rm 5,000 per month.

And yeah i think Slappy is talking about the hotel in Block F, which we bought a unit there too. , and we bought in year 2009 , and we sign the spa which have 24 mths period for the consutruction, but there is a delay abouth 6 months, and the developer send us the letter certified by the engineeer ,
something "force majeur" act of natural , but my unit is already getting the rental guarantee , they bank in unctually

Slappy you should call the developer if your are not getting yours.

And how you can claim the interest during construction ?? , when i bought mind , i remembered that there is not Developer Interest bearing Scheme, so how can you claim ?? you got the DIBS when you bought it ??

As we have make profit, and getting good rental from the factory and shop , so we continue buying the shops and the hotel in their current Project Business Center Melaka

http://businesscentremelaka.com/

i bought the shops last year was at rm 600k, heard almost Rm 800k,

and for the business suite, which the developer use the same Hotel Operator best Western International, during the signing of SPA, the developer give us the supplementary letter of undertaking which stated the Developer Interest bearing Scheme,
the rental agreement, free maintenance and free nights.

So far my experience buying in Sandakan is very good under Equity Leader, we make money flipping the shops , good rental from factory bought it previously at RM 500k, now worth Rm 1 million, if i can predict the future i will buy 5 unit at 1 row now collecting rental at RM 5,000, paying the banks at Rm 2,800 getting +ve cash flow . The goverment Mara wanted to buy the building , haha unless they offer me good price will willing to consider.

So their rental for the Hotel in Block F, also has started they pay promptly, so Slappy, my experience when i bought that unit there is NO DIBS, and how u can claim with them if there is no dibs ?? and do check if you have gotten your rental,

and for Melaka project, i am seriously positive as jsut went back from the site last week, they already progress at 6 floor , and the location is damn good there is a hospital beside it,

i bet this time will make more money than Sandakan , already lock few unti shops and the hotel.

Don't buy from SSF, lousy work. Water leaking everywhere, after fixed the old leaking, the new leaking discovered. Spend the whole year 2012, to make complaint fixing the water leaking. From Jan12 till now, I didn't count how many defects had been reported.

Small developer, poor management , no complain department .

They simply use injection method to patch up those leaking area.
Soon and later (after warranty period), will leak again, at that time , I have to hire people to fix the leaking. Don't forget, not 1 area, almost the whole house. Who will pay the cost ?

I'm very stress. I just wanna say leaking leaking leaking .

After 7 months, the leaking at the same spot back again.

I bought a property from SSF developer, and many defects from water leaks, crack walls, under ground pipe leaks. I have also been chasing for the defects to be fixed. Now coming up 24 months and defective leaks have come back. Chasing them at the mo but their attitude now it has been fixed previously and anything else is outside of warranty. What else can I do? The defects have not been permanently fixed due to poor quality methods used and it is reasonable to chase them to rectify permanently.

The SSF staff have really bad attitude once you have paid and bought the property they will ignore your emails and phone calls. When at times they do pickup the phone they will try and wriggle out from their responsibility either by delaying or saying contact their lawyers . This kind of developer really give the Malaysia property industry a really bad name. Are they trying to cheat the customers by building poor quality houses and sell them at luxury prices?

This is the worst experience I have ever had buying property and I warn anyone who is considering buying from SSF. One word, DON'T!

Any ideas what else can I do?

I Should post on Facebook

This post has been edited by Maylam: Aug 20 2013, 10:39 PM

Hi Ataman & Edwin,

i'm new member and just find out about your comment but that is last year info, can you updated me about this project cos i just pay booking and waiting approval from bank.

i book this project because of "BEST WESTERN" only. if without them i'll not consider .....

please advise.....

There is a long list of developer sure there is a bad apple kind and i would take consideration on developer with good reputation plus how long the company in this field as my purchasing factor.

sunway is another "leaking developer"...

perpetually leakage problems..patch here there everywhere and only after numerous complaints and
letters to their lawyers..
their customer service is a joke..zzzzzzzzzzzzz.......


building standard so so only - not befitting of a developer who claimed to be one of the top in the market
and moreover, sunway is known to charge future prices

had to really kick butt to get it finally done meaning tearing up the entire floor to redo water proofing..

so after more than one year after VP , still there are defects outstanding..

sounds good yeah..sunway...but belum kena belum tahu!

real chapalang..

So it's berjaya and it's bukit jalil developments.. Leaking issue from 3rd floor to 2nd and 2nd to 1st all the way to ground floor.

Hi,

Bought a unit at the Melaka Business Centre in 2012.

Until now the developer keep on giving reasons for the delay...one of the best"foreign workers jailed"...no worker, tats y delay...

On top of that they just send us letter asking for all sort of fees in advance, electricity..deposit for water meter...late charges oso, if we dun pay within 14 days....

Hope the developer will complete the project without any further delay

is this the one to be managed by Best Western?

Having a same problem here, until today (end of april 2015) no any news yet from developer when the ccc can be obtain...

Now we have to struggling to pay the installment of the bank loan without any so called GRR rental income.

Further more, without start actual using of the property, developer already asking all soft of advance payment from the purchaser such as 12 month mgmt fee, sinking fund, quit rent, assessment etc which is dated for the year 2014, and until now 2015 april already yet can get the ccc

Do anybody can help or advice how to deal with this dishonor developer?

so sorry to hear. Based on you guys experience, seriously how cheap or how attractive the development is, I will not be tempted if developer is unheard of.

I had a few months delay by Tan N Tan. When kaeys taken, the delay fees come along with the keys, no need buyers to stress out..

I almost bought Ampang D' waterfront in 2012 bcos its cheap. Luckily I oulled out after depositred RM5K. else money no more, project sold, n i read that nothing you could do about it.

True story. has been waiting more than a year for the CF, building pun sudah berhabuk. have to serve the loan, but cant do anything about the rental.

they keep accusing the authorities, but one question to them, why other developers can do it timely?

this project is now sitting at the top of my list for bad-ever investment. My very first investment, yet still does not yield any return. super sick. my others investment has been going very well.

sungguh menyesal choosing this project.

PM me so we can exchange information thru HP.

i'm glad to see same group of ppl here.. do we have any whats app group? so that all of us can get united.
my investment journey with this Plentifield is really bad la.. aih

Hi Guys, I'm an owner of a retail unit at MBC Melaka under Plentifield Marketing. We are setting up a committee of owners to deal with Plentifield and all the problems we are facing, especially with the upcoming AGM in mind. if you know any other purchaser/s or is one yourself I would appreciate if you could get them to contact me through PM or email at only2keano@gmail.com. Thanks a lot.

Nama Hartanah : Lot 62221, Jalan Batu Muda Tambahan 3 (Bumi Lot Sahaja)
Nama Projek : SkyAwani Residensi Lihat Terperinci
Jenis Kediaman : Kondominium
Developer : Skyworld
Cheating on customer. My friend is reporting his case with KPKT.

Is any one have bad experience with Mah Sing esp condo ?

this is worse than talam, at least talam has delivered the property and honoured the LAD, i bought vista lavender and lestari putra from them and can confirm this, only problem with talam is the quality, tiles can come out anytime suddenly, basement parking flood, access road not ready etc.

Can explain a bit？

I'm quite interesting to know more how to cheat, can u please explain more?
Because I'm waiting their project in bukit jalil too
So far as I know, this developer didn't have any completed project in market, all is under con

A sign of overstretched.

They have a new property launch in sg besi called trinity aquata.
I personally love the water concept and all that were showcased in the showroom .. but can you tell me more the quality of the projects built by them? Any bad experience? Cause i am really interested in their project and would appreciate any feedbacks before i pay 1000k booking fee for a unit

your kind replies are greatly appreciated.

btw, i'm a first time buyer. Shopping for my first ever property hope it turns out well.

Dear all,

You can check blacklisted developer at this website.
Beware: a lot developer will set up lot sub company for development therefore you will need to check is the any link with the company. From there you may evaluate developer reputation.

Good luck

http://ehome.kpkt.gov.my/index.php/pages/view/43

1000k=RM1,000,000 booking fee ? The property cost RM50 million ?

plz la..ppl want to write 1k or 1000 la.....haha

thanks for the info bro. worth to share