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post Feb 9 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 6 2015, 03:48 PM)
Woo, you mau PID a poemia, its a thermoblock unit, non regulated flow through a thermoblock, hard for the SSR to control power in time for temp change due to drift.

If you are talking about boiler based, sure. Thermoblock...eh?
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Hand itchy tongue.gif , I need better steam control too. I'm planning to control the pump pressure with solenoid in the near future, but not until my other project is done first whistling.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(bimboG @ Feb 6 2015, 10:43 PM)
may i know where u bought this?
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Got it from China.
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post Feb 9 2015, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Feb 9 2015, 12:31 AM)
Im using magnolia fresh milk.
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Will my mug too small to steam milk?
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If you're using panarello to froth, you'll need to cover the breather hole by raising the mug so that you can break the texture the milk. Just search in whole latte love channel in youtube, the guy did an amazing froth with panarello.
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 9 2015, 10:14 AM)
Erm, arent you better off with a new machine? Gaggia classic SB is RM2k new at Lazada. You can browse around, sometimes a Sylvia is available for sub RM2k.

Spending time and almost the same amount of money on a no-go machine, makes no sense. I took apart my first Krups (similar la, thermoblock and all) and bila buka, baru see how indigenous the design is, makes no sense to do anything at all, because its not worth it, and the engineering of a PID to the block is nonsensical.
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But PID cost me only Rm50 sweat.gif , and I can always move the PID over to other machines later on.

I do realise that 'no boiler' setup is not the way to go but the current setup will have to do for now coz I'm still learning. When I first started less than 3 months ago, I didn't want to commit so much into it coz I didn't know how much I'm into it rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Feb 9 2015, 10:24 AM)
i ever doubt that ec155 steam wand is kinda hard to break the milk texture.

Anyone here have delongi ec155 with modded steam wand?

or is it hard to look for sparepart in malaysia?
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The harder way would be to remove the panarello and just froth it naked (the wand, not you). I do this all the time but you'll need enough milk in the pitcher as the wand can be very short without the panarello.

There's a guy from Hong Kong, I think someone shared here before, uses EC155 as well. Try to look it up in youtube.
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post Feb 10 2015, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Feb 9 2015, 11:31 AM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCyzowPNt8
is this the one? haha. he modded the wand  rclxms.gif
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IMO, the wand won't make that much difference other than extending the length only. Unless you're changing the steam hole design.

Base on my not so-long experience, you will struggle more from the lost of steam power. There is a period of time when there's minimal steam to maintain the whirlpool and when the boiler will kick in again. You can't really do much other than 'wait'.
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post Feb 12 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Feb 10 2015, 07:59 PM)
No specific preference in particular.. I just prefer consistency as I've stopped fiddling around lol.. If it's gonna be a machine that'll cost me.. I'd just get one that can perform back to back extractions while my hands are free to do other things.

Btw, just got a bag of beans from a friend in Bangkok, roasted himself..  Double shot and full of nutty flavors.. Pretty oily though..
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Ripple tamp? Looks cool thumbup.gif
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post Feb 13 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Feb 13 2015, 01:56 PM)
Yup! Using a 58.4 flat ripple tamper with the IMS 18/22 ridgeless basket.. brows.gif
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I'll need to invest in a bottomless PF first. If I cut the current PF, it'll be much more difficult to sell it off in the future tongue.gif

I know i've said this before, but the ripple is very cool.
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post Feb 18 2015, 11:36 AM

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Hooked up this fella to read the temp for reference later on. I haven't modify the boiler circuit yet. Think I'll only get the time to do that after cny

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post Mar 11 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(thepro91 @ Mar 11 2015, 12:26 AM)
Hi everyone. Im TC a coffee enthusiast home barista just like all of you. Never knew this thread is active until accidentally bumped into in while looking for a new coffee machine. I see some of you guys are using the same machine as i am, the Philips Saeco Poemia HD8325. This is my first machine and i would say i have learnt a lot from it. It's a machine which teaches me a lot personally. Being tight on budget, this is all i could afford. From hand grinding with Hario Mini Mill grinder to Breville BCG800 and finally Gaggia MDF. One step at a time i would say to those who just joined. Some of my items were shipped from Taobao. Only the PF from SeattleCoffeeGear.

The Poemia is a great learning tool with some modifications to be done. For example, the  Panarello Latte Wand takes a huge leap into making fine microfoam and also the Non-Pressurized PF for the Saeco makes a huge difference on the creama, body , acidity and flavour as a whole. Practising latte is a challenge and experience on this machine due to the inconsistency and under-pressured steam. For me, i guess i have different priorities now as extraction or rather looking for a GOD shot now matters hence the search for a better machine.

All in all nice to meet you guys and i hope i get to contribute and learn from all of you. Meantime wish me luck in finding for a good reasonable single group machine!

Here are some shots and latte art done on the Poemia ! biggrin.gif Keep brewing and practising !

(p/s : Loads of failed latte art prior to all these, practise makes perfect. biggrin.gif )
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Saeco Poemia user here too. Wow, impressive! I wish I can be that good!

I have a PID that I've yet to install. Its only plugged in to monitor the temp which helped a lot to manually surf the temp for both brewing and steaming. Since then I've develop some procedure which allow me to brew at 94c consistently and also good pressure steaming power when I need it.

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post Mar 11 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(thepro91 @ Mar 11 2015, 05:16 PM)
Mind telling me where and how much that pid cost? Thought of getting one. Hehe.
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got it for about rm50 from ali BUT its not a kit. It does come with the PID, a SSR and TC though.
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(thepro91 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:48 AM)
Hi wshazi, the gaggia is a great grinder but loads of retention due to the dose set up. Not great for personal home use like us single we don't brew that much. Other than that it grinds much finer for espresso than the breville. I'm grinding at grind setting 4 for espresso  while the breville can't even choke the machine at 1.

The breville is great for brews other than espresso since its quite consistent probably due to the conical burr(gaggia's flat)  You might wanna consider adding a shim at the base of the blades to make it grind finer but I couldn't find it here in msia. Hence I sold it off. Hope that helps.
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You can just use any shim/washer that fits the dimension. Many hardware shop sells it here. I did that for my Welhome/WPM grinder cool2.gif
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post Mar 16 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(thepro91 @ Mar 14 2015, 09:13 PM)
@Keng Thanks to your tips on the machine i was able to froth with better steam pressure producing much finer microfoam. Cheers to you!
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Impressive what you can do with that little Saeco rclxms.gif but I don't think I gave you any tips on frothing sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ierix @ Mar 25 2015, 11:37 PM)
Hi guys got myself a philips saeco poemia.I was wondering is there any difference between stainless steel milk frothing pitcher and plastic ones?

I mean does it affect the frothing? also looking for rm200< grinder.any recomendation?
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2 things I can think of, food grade steel and ability to feel the temperature.

Since most plastic foodware must be able to handle the heat, I guess the underlying reason is more about heat transfer then.

I've tried using temp probe, the response is too slow, not precise as you need to submerge more than 70% of the probe length and the hassle of cleaning it afterward.
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post Mar 30 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 29 2015, 09:40 AM)
Hello guys and girls,

Between Philips Saeco HD8325 and Delonghi EC155, which one is better ?

Amazon list out EC155 as number 1 in budget espresso maker. But i not sure if Philips Saeco could do much better.

Thanks for the advice
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Both can do the job just well. Both can de-pressurize their portafilter too.

The difference IMO are....

Saeco: can upgrade aftermarket (and naked) portafilter; you can check seattle coffee gear. Not cheap though.

Delonghi: steam wand can upgrade to those with swivel pillowball, can't remember taken from which machine. Not sure whether this has PF upgrade.


Apart from that, their architecture are pretty much similar, thermocoil design. No difference in pump either if I remember correctly. So your deciding factor will be price, look, and future plan of upgrade.

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post Mar 31 2015, 11:05 AM

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Bought Grand Central Roaster's beans from Perth. Tried several setting and found that I was able to produce for the first time a very very buttery shot. I did this by accident as I didn't change the grind setting from my previous beans.

16gm in 2oz out (forgot to weigh out) in a very short time of 17s. Thick crema, very buttery, not much acidity, very caramel too with slight touch of bitterness.

I was gonna throw away the shot when it extracted so quick but decided to try it coz the color is so good. Glad I didn't.
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(wshazi @ Apr 2 2015, 01:42 PM)
Breville Malaysia not bringing in the machine.  U need to purchase it from overseas. 

Why not purchase the double boiler and a good grinder instead of the Oracle?
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Oracle selling point is the auto tamping and patent frother. I'd say the johhnny want it for that.
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post Apr 12 2015, 09:46 AM

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Wow, so many replies in the last couple of days. Welcome to those who have just discovered this topic!

A friend of mine bought his simonelli from taobao at 2.5k, 1k cheaper than Malaysia. It's been good to him so far.

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post Apr 14 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(princessgalaria @ Apr 13 2015, 12:33 PM)
Hi everyone,
would like to seek some advice on semi-auto coffee machine, just the entry level ones. I'm not really a coffee person but this is a gift to someone else.
Looking at price ranges from RM500 - 900.

Considering between:
Philips Seaco Poemia HD8325 / 8323
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I'm using Poemia now, so I guess my comment should be valid laugh.gif

I bought it because:
1. Its sold here officially by Philips, so no worries about spare parts.
2. Ease of de-repressurized, and you can consider going for bottomless upgrade also from seattle coffee gear. Or you can just cut the bottom off if you dare.
3. You can take off the pannarello to have manual frother but there's a downside to this.

Why I won't?
1. Downside to the pannarello is its too short. You'll need to use say 12oz milk pitcher and fill up near the 'V', roughly about 4-5oz. So if you're making a 6oz latte, you'll have to waste a bit. You can buy a pannarello from another Saeco model to extend the wand, which I can't recall what right now.
2. Steam wand is not pillow ball type, delonghi EC155 can be upgraded for this.

I didn't mention about power or temp control coz that's what this range of budget can get you. You can consider adding PID to help you do that, I've done it halfway and left it there since LOL. Any other doubts, feel free to ask
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post Apr 14 2015, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Tikietic @ Apr 14 2015, 01:22 PM)
all those upgrades/imports are not cheap rite? especially the PID module.. another choice would be to get a more decent espresso machine than this DIY path ba?.. cos, not many people has the right tool to saw off the portafilter or the hands-on skill to open up the machine to replace the steam wand altogether oo..  sweat.gif
For portafilter, its a luxury upgrade only laugh.gif . I depressurized mine and it serve me really well, so I didn't bother upgrading although its nice to have.

As for steam wand, got it for about Rm70. To be honest, I can do the same without it now BUT back then when learning time, everything just seem more difficult LOL.

For PID, cheaper than my steam wand upgrade although it does require some DIY skill to install it, no issue for me lar cool2.gif

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