apologies to Mod - the link i provided no longer works.

its really odd the link remove the post immediately.

i hv screen shot the blog as attachment this time.

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okay back to topic :

Anyway - this thread :

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2503532

TS insist pay cash - when i want COD he give me number 0164325301.

Then i hv been calling him / PM / SMS no reply.

I search google and dapat ni :

http://kaki-tipu.blogspot.com/2012/07/isly...cheng-hong.html

His mobile number is exactly the same.

Leave this to the admin and mods good hands.





This post has been edited by netken: Sep 24 2012, 03:59 PM


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broken link

fixed for u

http://kaki-tipu.blogspot.com/2012/07/isly...cheng-hong.html

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Added on September 24, 2012, 3:59 pmalready fixed for u. if its true, he untung a lot already

This post has been edited by Frostlord: Sep 24 2012, 03:59 PM

thanks -

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Added on September 24, 2012, 4:03 pmi also hope not true - and i am wrong as i would like to get one too ..

just doing a bit of checking as i was conned before badly ... and to be extra careful.

This post has been edited by netken: Sep 24 2012, 04:03 PM

high chances though

joined date Mar 2012

For those who did pay him, what is his account number?

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Added on September 24, 2012, 4:21 pmWah now thread locked.

This post has been edited by WhatMan: Sep 24 2012, 04:21 PM

lol @ retard who already paid. he have absolutely fuuking zero transaction in garage sale.

teruklah bros - remind me of my tough lesson last time.

wish i posted this earlier ..... dammit.

no matter how nice the seller is or the selling thread - scam is always a scam! - still waiting to be proven wrong!

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Added on September 24, 2012, 4:29 pmbtw - the thread starter / seller is online now ...

This post has been edited by netken: Sep 24 2012, 04:29 PM

so it is true that the con thread? i saw so many buyer in the list..

i hope not tuan - ......

every iphone release got this kind of scam..plus there's too many stupid + Greedy buyer who want to get the set 1st in their hand eventhough is expensive..

list of idiots:

1. KayleFerre - 32GB White - FULL PAYMENT MADE *COURIER*
2. briefsic - 32GB Black - FULL PAYMENT MADE *COURIER*
3. gunns - 16GB Black / 16 GB White X 2 *deposit not received, self collect on penang*
4. icemessenger - 64GB White - FULL PAYMENT MADE *COURIER*
5. mercury - 32GB White / Black - *DEPOSIT RECEIVED*
6. silencer - 32GB White - FULL PAYMENT RECEIVED *COURIER*
7. hongchakun - 32GB White / 64GB Black - *HALF PAYMENT MADE, HALF TOMMOROW* -COURIER-
8. kepalaparut - 32GB Black - *PAID RM420 AS DEPOSIT* - BALANCE AFTER ITEM ARRIVAL. -COURIER-
9. agn - 64GB White - *PAID RM200 AS DEPOSIT* - BALANCE AFTER ITEM ARRIVAL -COURIER-
10. nud_karo - 16GB Black X 2 - *PAID RM400 AS DEPOSIT* - BALANCE AFTER ITEM ARRIVAL -COURIER-
11. zxsh1299 - 32GB Black / 32GB White - *PAID RM2000 AS DEPOSIT* - BALANCE AFTER ITEM ARRIVAL -COURIER-

fuuk, this is the first seller I knew yg boleh bayar lepas pos.

This post has been edited by cracksys: Sep 24 2012, 04:39 PM

All Courier.......
that GUY really "untung" a lot

kalau list ni btol..mmg btol kaw2 untung itu conman

Well, thanks for including me in the so call idiot list. I insisted on COD, and worst come to worst I loose my RM200 bucks. For those who PM me asking about the seller reputation, I replied you with sincere that please deal with COD as I dunno this seller either, but seems like all you guys decided to jump into it.

This post has been edited by mercury: Sep 24 2012, 04:47 PM

After all the cases before, after all the reminders/warning before, still there is a victim. The facts that TS close his thread already suggest that he is a real conman. I hv open it back anyway. And its so sad that some of the depositors there is not the 1st time being a victim.

This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Sep 24 2012, 04:51 PM

anyone who paid any amount of money to new user with no transaction record is an idiot in my book.

It's very rude to call idiot. Haha. No worries. It is my first time. forget about it. and WHO CAN FIND ME A REAL SELLER FOR IPHONE5??

Every conman will really love to hv u as a victim man.

i use to be "idiot" last time..already learn my lesson

At least you tell me what to do? My very very first time.

sorry i dah terkena 2.7k

sedang mencari alamat rumah guna maybank akaun dia

sesiapa rasa nak muka dia berkicap boleh join aku sekali

Police report? common sense i thought.. rite?

you got his name, u got his bank acc, u got his phone number, u got his SPR details.. go bring all that to police

Btw, to really make sure he is the conman ISLY SIM CHENG HONG, THIS is his dupe.

Well, for respect sake, only idiot understands idiots anyway. Eh not to start flame war, I should stop where we start.

So its pretty sure that I'll loose my 200 bucks for this lesson

Hopefully those big shots can get some of their money back, its quite a big sum consider they made full payment for postage

same here.

from the link provided by ts:

DAFTAR PEMILIH YANG TELAH DISAHKAN
PERKARA PENERANGAN
Kad Pengenalan 890409075495
Nama SIM CHENG HONG
Tarikh Lahir 09 Apr 1989
Jantina LELAKI
Lokaliti 050 / 31 / 02 / 003 - JALAN PERAK 2
Daerah Mengundi 050 / 31 / 02 - CHEMOR LANE
DUN 050 / 31 - BATU LANCANG
Parlimen 050 - JELUTONG
Negeri PULAU PINANG

please make a police report. dun be lazy okey

You made full payment to him?

If that was the case, then I guess the list is real.

This post has been edited by a13solut3: Sep 24 2012, 05:02 PM

^ lol. nope, idiot doesn't have common sense. people with common sense can sniff idiocy. that's just nature way of rewarding us, normal people with fun mocking idiot.

At least we know he notice this already.

just a gentle reminder to all user out there, though u are a hard fan for IPhone 5, please be patient until it really launch here, just afraid that u'll get con even the amt with a small amt of less then rm500

great!

mr scammer/conman, its just matter of time. maybe u escape today or tomorrow, but u wont escape forever. mark my words, everyone is paying for whatever they are doing.

more than 20k RM in his account... waaaaaa

guess this is the last time we will see that nick online

oot : i like the button "Nuke siggy"

yes, luckily u dont hv siggy.

Untung

wow really first time see conman get away with this much and iphone 5 courier and can pay after item received

some heads up

look at his ebay account
http://feedback.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ck&myworld=true

so many +rep

but when u check the one who rep him, all is 0 rep. possibly dupe account that he make just to rep himself

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Added on September 24, 2012, 5:40 pmhi edenian

i see u still reading this thread

This post has been edited by Frostlord: Sep 24 2012, 05:40 PM

And I saw someone bought an 4s from him not received

This post has been edited by LazyFish: Sep 24 2012, 05:44 PM

apis, why is his nick haven't been put dispute tag yet?

sked later so many idiots will still bank-in to him.


at least put some warning la on the 1st post.

Please people, just go make police report. No sense of giving him a chance. Even if he refund some victims, its probably for show to make you think twice about taking action.

Just go make police report,

even if he is willing to refund, i mean a 20k loan with NO INTEREST, DAMN !!

HOPEFULLY THIS ISN'T REAL...OTHERWISE,I FEEL SO SORRY..

SUGGESTION TO OVERCOME THIS KIND OF CASE,

IF ANY LYN TRYING TO PERFORM A SALE HERE..& ABIT RISKY WHEN IT COMES TO A BIG AMOUNT..

TRY ASK HE/SHE TO DEAL BY LELONG.COM.MY

AT LEAST OVER THERE,THEIR DETAILS WILL BE VERIFIED BY THE ADMINS

& YOU CAN TRY TO INITIATE/USE SAFETRADE.

SAFETRADE IS A TYPE OF METHOD WHERE SELLER WILL ONLY GET THEIR PAYMENT IF BUYER SATISFIED WITH THE ITEM SENT TO THEM.



I WISH LOWYAT COULD BOND WITH LELONG TOGETHER ...LOL

Well, police report need to be done guys, I'm curious now, I'm thinking how many ppl in the list are genuine buyer, at least those few that PM me which I know. How come not many of us is reporting to this thread. If we could gather enough proof, we may try to get local state assemblyman to help on solving the dispute since its quite a sum of money. Anyway, just a suggestion, see how it goes

This post has been edited by mercury: Sep 24 2012, 06:43 PM

THOSE PLANNING TO PAY HIM A "VISIT"..KINDLY REFER MY ATTACHMENT..THAT'S ALL I CAN DO TO HELP SOME OF U.



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DOB is 2011?

I pity state assemblyman. they have genuine job to do but always being bogged down by people who got themselves conned.

worst still, it's not even a clever con-job.

put up a sales thread and let the stupid eats the bait.

lol...bang itu mcm punya benda hor...manusia boleh key in silap punya mah....

NO IC BTOL DAH OK ....^0^

Where you get this info? I might want to ask my friend check on the address owner..

he put Nov 2011 as his birth month.

and windows 3.1 as his currently use OS.

did you seriously think he'll put out his real address? I don't think he's that retarded compared to his victims

or you're him trying to divert us from catching up with you?

I'm curious why are you hating me so much, you are not happy with me or all ppl being conned. Seriously, if humiliation is the only thing you are keen on doing, just keep you damn mouth shut.

i din say u muz folo wad i posted here...juz some infos regarding this guy..

up to anyone to believe it or not..i'm trying to help wadever i can..

i once been conned by ppl & i know wads the feeling of the victim rite now..

he's using his best brain part to show how good he is compare to others..ignore him.. there is no different between stupid and pretending genius...
or we all will be like him, which is we dont want..

He probably drives a myvi and confirmed to be from penang:


Hint hint.

Agreed, that make sense

Anyway, I think we need someone compiling a list of people who were in the list actually did make payment to TS

lol..thousands of MYVI owner in Penang...unless..u hav the plat no...hmmm

lol

having common sense = pretending to be genius

what a joke.

Now look back this comment.........

Well, if that address is real, i pretty sure he is a TAR college student.
But...conman usually wont reveal the real address online.

I'm from Penang, that's why i know

If he did get 20k, maybe still got time to stop him from deposit all the money by having his account frozen? Don't know if he dare to show up at bank counter to withdraw that amount.

Per day you can only withdraw certain amount, no?

do you think maybank will take a word from nobody like us to freeze someone account?

even with police report, they won't simply freeze an account. unless there is a court order

I expect them to make police report and give it a try with the bank, if possible with a group of victims.

Better than sitting doing nothing while whining all day.

wtf.did he get caught

noob question

why dont give the conman account number to the bank and track down where he show up to withdraw the money? every atm got cctv right

If only victims band together, do police report/get court order, visit the bank as soon as possible.

Bank won't simply frozen user account .
He no need to withraw that amount at his bank . every ATM will do .
properly now the account is insufficient funds already . Surely he took all the money on hand now .

all buyers desperate finding the conman. Sorry to hear from victim but next time dont rush buying iphone5 which you guys cant be patient. You take a good lesson so please be aware conman in lyn.

Of course la that's why try to push victim to file police report. AFAIK, when it comes to withdraw for banks, there is a limit to how much you can withdraw a day, so while still got money left, might as well victims make the effort to go file police report in the hopes of bank to help them out in freezing the account of the conman.

Luckily I didn pay deposit to him, I ask last saturday and said I wanna buy since his price is reasonable. Then he ask me pay deposit and stock arrive today. I do research 1st but I cant check anything about him. Then later he ask me pay FULL payment him to make sure I want it. I just , then I replied him, I said I wanna see the stock arrive first then I only make payment. Just 1.00am today he also PM me said the stock arrive today, ask me PM my number to him.

This is the problem , Malaysia police efficiency sucks .
Eventhou we can brain that how to capture this conman , but still Police will act slow in Malaysia

and the victim also. act slow. if i were them i will go straight go the bank. police cant do shlt. my friends had his atm card stollen, go to the bank ask they track where his card been withdraw and end up the thief is his housemate.

the ebay thread, all the +rep are all dupes.

Positive feedback: 0%|Feedback score: 0

for everybody in the list???

This is just so fake!!!

"but when u check the one who rep him, all is 0 rep. possibly dupe account that he make just to rep himself"




This post has been edited by Savor_Savvy: Sep 24 2012, 09:12 PM

Well, if I'm not wrong, maximum transaction per day is only RM5k with ATM card, unless you withdraw it with bank book.
Yes bank will not simply freeze any account, but why not just give it a try with the original copy of police report and show it to the branch person in charge, i pretty sure the bank can do something.

And also, report to the bank first by calling to their 24 hours helpline, get the report number, bring along the police report and everything will be faster.

But this case is diffrent ,
you're telling Banker that this guy is conning ur money , but banker will request court order before they frozen the conman account .

Banker got no right to frozen their user account before the judge drop.

too many stupid kids in here.

so naive thinking banks are on their side at all time.

Luckily many of them are worried about the nano sim, if not will more people get con

This is epic that is why I only COD even if the seller is a Senior Member, unless its some cheap accessory under Rm 50

u can just go to the bank counter and perform an interbank giro ( limit up to 100k iirc ) , or can buy a bank draft.

what have i done with maybank saving acc, you can get rm15k per day.. 5k withdraw atm, 5k transfer using atm, 5k transfer using mb2u.. but, if he using current acc which have cheque book facilities, all the money can gone in a mere seconds..

and really, bank wont easily entertain just a police report to freeze account.. if not, everyone account can be freeze just by going to police station and make report.. you need court order to freeze account.. or if you have friend in income tax, can try ask them to freeze the account..

or, you go to the counter to transfer

one time i only want to TT Rm14k to my university in UK, they asked for proof of I am the student there then only let me transfer, wanting to see my student card
its really "WTF?" as if i have no rights to transfer my money. for those who transfer 100k,200k millions to normal names account, ALi Ahmad Muthu Low Ah Kow no problem
but i cant transfer to a University unless i prove am student there

sometime maybank can be so stupidly "worry" about unnecessary thing but cannot help on those real trouble

so... when we signed a cheque if the cheque is still floating we can stop check, can those, with ATM slips/transaction slips go to the bank and say "i dont want to transfer the money anymore, i mistake ... " ?
lol. i know it sound very implausible.

his first name is iSLY . doubt u can easily find a sly person like that.

not to act harsh but sometime people do act or become stupid/idioit when they seing cheap and rare sa
tuff.
i dont blame the conman 100%.it s ur fault too for being off guard.
too many cases nowadays and yet u guys still 'dare' enough to bank in few thousands ringgits to people like him/her.
even nowadays u cant trust senior members @ a seller with safe trade tag.practice cod and if deposit is needed give a small sum only.
say no to postage unless you know the seller.

how come the conman so daring? his details has already spread through the web and he really believe he can get away with this?

what a fool, either he'll be beaten to death or get f**ked up in jail badly.

possible he find someone similar nick then con at lowyat also can. When anything he refer to that account

nah either u guys go find him and beat him or he just wandering around looking for new victims.

Waiting season 3 to continue next year with iphone 5s.

Why dont use his acc no to get his address from bank? Plis dont let this conman escape guys. Do police report and get his address! Go to Jab Pendaftaran ok..

i somehow felt... some forumers already knew it but kept quiet to c if really got ppl got scammed at last ...

Hi, if he is from Penang I might be able to help.

Got a guy con me before and I somehow am able to make him pay back my 2k+.

All I needed are

1. His permanent residential address (his family must be living there).
2. His face and IC.
3. His current hp number (needed to talk to him at least once).

No promise though. If I have some spare time I am willing to help once all the above items are concluded.

will pm u details.i have all u state above

Is is too late for me to made my deposit?

Ok joke aside, is it possible for Lowyat.NET to make one specific "box" where forumer have to fill their banking details depending on their respective bank - that will eventually have to go through a filter sourced from info that Apis gathered?

How does this stop the scammer from closing his "blacklisted" account and then re-opening a new one?

lucky me... already pm seller & thinking to put deposit.....phewwwww

Some forumer knew something was not right but what to do? I even commented that people should be very careful about pre-ordering iPhone 5 before this but if no one bother to take precaution and go ahead throw their money away to some unknown seller that barely sells anything.

Can't suspect every seller later get warned by mods for accusing genuine seller as conman. At the very least seller should avoid paying deposit, ALWAYS COD (yet foolish buyers still bank in first).

wow! it's going to be a long conversation thread here.
instead of talking like a pro, why don't all of u victims go to make a police report first?

for someone (victim) who lives in penang, make a police report, try to go to the add stated in the thread.
if there's confirm that he lives in that add, bring the police along with u, n what's next, u decide.

then, please inform to all of victims here. so that they can take their own action towards this *******.

can ar? if cannot, then please let ur money burns laaaa......

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Added on September 25, 2012, 10:59 amthis is because the seller gives a chance for buyer to make a full payment once they receive their goods.

This post has been edited by firslash88: Sep 25 2012, 11:02 AM

Yeah, ONCE they received it. But they go ahead and pay huge amount anyway.



It makes victims feel confidence to trust conman so much that they neglect to think the possibility of getting scammed.

But last minute conman will make 101 excuse on why seller should make deposit (or full payment).

They should have just stick to not giving deposit. Even if they did, losing RM200 is better than RM10k.

plenty to go around bros - another one : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2521552

let's do this case study guys ....




He has some good reference at signature?


Possible Giveaway :
1. iPhone5 16GB at RM2,500.00 firm.
2. Want Deposit first as reservation.
3. Item coming on 7th Oct - COD 8th onwards.
4. Balance can pay when collect.

So is this genuine or not ? can anyone tell or can someone take the risk ? Like previous poster said - we cant go on blackmarking every single sale but we can practise safe procedures. its up to the buyer to be smart - once burn twice shy - thrice then can go die.

This post has been edited by netken: Sep 25 2012, 11:33 AM

put it this way, i know him, met him before, deal with him before, but still i m not gonna put my 200 deposit.

wah tuan - means the rm2.5k is real ka ... saya pon mau ohh like dat !

But there will ppl do that
People are very easily fooled by cheaper than normal goods, this is where they loose their logical judgement and greed take over.

You trust the 2 referrals ? Look at the referrals' history, one of them barely had any sales or posting.

After this fiasco, you might as well don't do it.

just checked his history - seems to be a rather consistent seller here .... could be real / could be otherwise

either way - best way is COD!

not that i m saying he is a possible conman, just that i dont take any risk.

suspicious though

lets see
http://store.apple.com/sg/browse/home/shop.../iphone/iphone5

price : SGD948

convert to RM : RM2370
https://www.google.com/search?q=SGD948+in+M...chrome&ie=UTF-8

selling price : RM2500

revenue : RM2500 - RM2370 = RM130

margin : RM130/RM2370 = 5%

NOTE : this is revenue, not profit

will u do a biz with profit <5%? do take note that this is a "1-time-sale" where the demand is highly driven by trend. once the trend ends (1st ip5 user in MY) the demand will drop as well

i know i wont

btw, if the seller sells at rm2750 for 16GB, many ifag will still rebut to buy the phone. so why 2.5k?