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akrami
post Feb 8 2010, 09:30 AM

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Hi guys.... may i join the club...??.. just bought a tank with all the stuff lo and 2 clown fish from a 'consider as pro' ar.. huhuh.. so the tank is consider as mature already... but, planning to put coral... can some one help me?... I will buy all the tester today.. hehhee.. been keeping the fish for 1week++...
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post Feb 8 2010, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 8 2010, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys.... may i join the club...??.. just bought a tank with all the stuff lo and 2 clown fish from a 'consider as pro' ar.. huhuh.. so the tank is consider as mature already... but, planning to put coral... can some one help me?... I will buy all the tester today.. hehhee.. been keeping the fish for 1week++...
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mature tank is after 5,6 months.
if u want to play reef than study first, not everything can keep, else you will just be flushing $$ into the toilet bowl.
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post Feb 8 2010, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 8 2010, 09:40 AM)
mature tank is after 5,6 months.
if u want to play reef than study first, not everything can keep, else you will just be flushing $$ into the toilet bowl.
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yeah... the previous owner had keep the tank for more than a year... then i buy everything, and i even recycle the water 100%. so, basically my tank is mature right? i really want to study.. but i'm not sure where to begin with.... where can i get the information???.. the previous owner do tell me alot of things, but i cant absorb every thing in 1 night... forgot many things already... btw, my tank is only 2ft tank... huhuh..
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post Feb 8 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 8 2010, 09:46 AM)
yeah... the previous owner had keep the tank for more than a year... then i buy everything, and i even recycle the water 100%. so, basically my tank is mature right? i really want to study.. but i'm not sure where to begin with.... where can i get the information???..  the previous owner do tell me alot of things, but i cant absorb every thing in 1 night... forgot many things already... btw, my tank is only 2ft tank... huhuh..
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once u move it, the cycle will start again, so for first 2 weeks don't add any new things.
get a test kit to check KH, NO3 & Calcium, that's all u need.

u also can snap photo and list out what u have, we can give u some advice.

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post Feb 9 2010, 03:03 AM

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2nd hand chiller model resun CL650 rm950..
that okey price or to high??
akrami
post Feb 9 2010, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 8 2010, 11:34 AM)
once u move it, the cycle will start again, so for first 2 weeks don't add any new things.
get a test kit to check KH, NO3 & Calcium, that's all u need.

u also can snap photo and list out what u have, we can give u some advice.
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yeah.. i tent to keep it that way for a month,huhuhuh.. the longer the better right?.. ok, yesterday I bought my self PH test kit, and Ammonia test kit and a thermometer. Result: PH is around 8.1, Ammonia 0 ppm, temp 31.4 (lowest) 32.7 (highest). huhuhu.. Where i can get all the NO3, calcium test kit?... very hard to find lo... huhuh.. not all pet and aquarium shop sell those thing. My plan for this weekend, is to install a fan, at least 3 to reduce the temperature, is it necessary? or i just need to spend on chiller? huhuh..
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post Feb 9 2010, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Feb 9 2010, 03:03 AM)
2nd hand chiller model resun CL650 rm950..
that okey price or to high??
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not OK, 2nd hand rm500-600 depends on condition
CL650 is big, when startup & shutdown u might get shock. haha


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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 9 2010, 08:25 AM)
yeah.. i tent to keep it that way for a month,huhuhuh.. the longer the better right?.. ok, yesterday I bought my self PH test kit, and Ammonia test kit and a thermometer. Result: PH is around 8.1, Ammonia 0 ppm, temp 31.4 (lowest) 32.7 (highest). huhuhu.. Where i can get all the NO3, calcium test kit?... very hard to find lo... huhuh.. not all pet and aquarium shop sell those thing. My plan for this weekend, is to install a fan, at least 3 to reduce the temperature, is it necessary? or i just need to spend on chiller? huhuh..
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PH will swing, temp u must keep it 26-28c, over 30 will kill ur live stock, ammonia spike very easily happen.
got the budget straight go for chiller noneed fan. new 1 can get hailea will cost u around 850-950
2nd hand mostly is resun going for rm500-600 range depends.
go to oeanic puchong, u will get most of the things u need there.




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post Feb 9 2010, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 9 2010, 08:58 AM)
not OK, 2nd hand rm500-600 depends on condition
CL650 is big, when startup & shutdown u might get shock. haha


Added on February 9, 2010, 9:03 am
PH will swing, temp u must keep it 26-28c, over 30 will kill ur live stock, ammonia spike very easily happen.
got the budget straight go for chiller noneed fan. new 1 can get hailea will cost u around 850-950
2nd hand mostly is resun going for rm500-600 range depends.
go to oeanic puchong, u will get most of the things u need there.
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so it recommended for 3ft tank or not??i would like to offer about rm500 to the owner..it's ok??
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post Feb 9 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 9 2010, 08:58 AM)
not OK, 2nd hand rm500-600 depends on condition
CL650 is big, when startup & shutdown u might get shock. haha


Added on February 9, 2010, 9:03 am
PH will swing, temp u must keep it 26-28c, over 30 will kill ur live stock, ammonia spike very easily happen.
got the budget straight go for chiller noneed fan. new 1 can get hailea will cost u around 850-950
2nd hand mostly is resun going for rm500-600 range depends.
go to oeanic puchong, u will get most of the things u need there.
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huhuh.. this month budget is over already... can my live rock survive for a month at temp 31?... huhuh... can u explain, what is "ammonia spike"?.. expensive chiller, can it be use if later on I want to change to 3ft? Sorry if i'm asking to many question, really interested, but dumb. huhuh...
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Feb 9 2010, 03:35 PM)
so it recommended for 3ft tank or not??i would like to offer about rm500 to the owner..it's ok??
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cl650 can support up to 4ft not an issue


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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 9 2010, 04:45 PM)
huhuh.. this month budget is over already... can my live rock survive for a month at temp 31?... huhuh... can u explain, what is "ammonia spike"?.. expensive chiller, can it be use if later on I want to change to 3ft? Sorry if i'm asking to many question, really interested, but dumb. huhuh...
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go get a fan than.
ammonia is poison to ur live stock, if temp high, ammonia will turn even more poison
where ammonia come from? overfeeding food, die fish, bioload too high etc
most chiller can support up to 4ft, we only need to bring down 3,4c from room tempreture.


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post Feb 10 2010, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 10 2010, 12:05 AM)
cl650 can support up to 4ft not an issue


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:20 am

go get a fan than.
ammonia is poison to ur live stock, if temp high, ammonia will turn even more poison
where ammonia come from? overfeeding food, die fish, bioload too high etc
most chiller can support up to 4ft, we only need to bring down 3,4c from room tempreture.
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ok, i'll DIY this weekend. Yesterday, my aquarium reach up to 32.7... arrrggghhh.. dont know how to reduce the temp.... so technically, if I put 3 big CPU fan, it will be enough, right?
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post Feb 10 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 10 2010, 08:23 AM)
ok, i'll DIY this weekend. Yesterday, my aquarium reach up to 32.7... arrrggghhh.. dont know how to reduce the temp.... so technically, if I put 3 big CPU fan, it will be enough, right?
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1 fan is enough, too many your water will vapor too fast and result more worst because salinity will swing also.
fan just blow the heat from the light away and cool down max 2-3c, with more fan still the samething
akrami
post Feb 11 2010, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 10 2010, 04:37 PM)
1 fan is enough, too many your water will vapor too fast and result more worst because salinity will swing also.
fan just blow the heat from the light away and cool down max 2-3c, with more fan still the samething
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owh.. like that ha?.. ok... right now i'm using my table fan.. hahahaha... big one... result now 30.3.... better la....
ruknu
post Feb 14 2010, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 10 2010, 04:37 PM)
1 fan is enough, too many your water will vapor too fast and result more worst because salinity will swing also.
fan just blow the heat from the light away and cool down max 2-3c, with more fan still the samething
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alex..can ur give a name of coral for beginner like me??
my tank is 3ft long,1.5ft high and 1ft wide.
lighting 2 PLL 55w.


can i do water change once a month or twice a month??
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post Feb 14 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Feb 14 2010, 08:25 PM)
alex..can ur give a name of coral for beginner like me??
my tank is 3ft long,1.5ft high and 1ft wide.
lighting 2 PLL 55w.
can i do water change once a month or twice a month??
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u have low lighting so consider those which need feeding like sun coral, super sun , rhyzo
and those which can supplyment food to compensate the lack of light
moon coral, bubble, blastomusa, acans, favia, ricordea yuma or florida etc

tree coral, colt, finger, toadstool, clam , mushroom & buttons u can keep but need to put high

just avoid goniopora (flower pot) or similar type, carnation, donut , brain, xenia & seafan, all this have special requirements, all i tried b4 and is not easy to keep.

sure, but u need to dose supplyment, if u change water every 2wks noneed to dose anything extra, salt has it all, cheapest solutions.
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post Feb 15 2010, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 14 2010, 11:17 PM)
u have low lighting so consider those which need feeding like sun coral, super sun , rhyzo
and those which can supplyment food to compensate the lack of light
moon coral, bubble, blastomusa, acans, favia, ricordea yuma or florida etc

tree coral, colt, finger, toadstool, clam , mushroom & buttons u can keep but need to put high

just avoid goniopora (flower pot) or similar type, carnation, donut , brain, xenia & seafan, all this have special requirements, all i tried b4 and is not easy to keep.

sure, but u need to dose supplyment, if u change water every 2wks noneed to dose anything extra, salt has it all, cheapest solutions.
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okey..but if i add 2x55w PLL 50-50 and 20w artinic blue.
so, my total wattage of my light is 130w.
what kind of coral that easy to keep??
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post Feb 15 2010, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Feb 15 2010, 01:51 AM)
okey..but if i add 2x55w PLL 50-50 and 20w artinic blue.
so, my total wattage of my light is 130w.
what kind of coral that easy to keep??
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all i listed u can keep. do you have chiller?
ruknu
post Feb 15 2010, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(alexlow @ Feb 15 2010, 09:35 AM)
all i listed u can keep. do you have chiller?
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okey..thanks..plan to get as soon as possible..
akrami
post Feb 17 2010, 08:32 AM

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is there any coral that can survive at 30 C?... huhuh,... just wondering...
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post Feb 18 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(akrami @ Feb 17 2010, 08:32 AM)
is there any coral that can survive at 30 C?... huhuh,... just wondering...
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some will be able to adapt to it. basically corals all need temp 28c and below.

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