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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Dec 10 2011, 01:00 PM

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More power, maybe need to got next stage of cams and e-management....
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post Dec 10 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 10 2011, 01:08 PM)
Cams will make the engine not stable leh... Well~ what is e management?
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Depends on what cams are fitted. I think you means rough idling with very high cams, not engine not stable.....
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post Dec 11 2011, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ben3085 @ Dec 10 2011, 09:31 PM)
Previously having O2 problem with check engine light on but since the change. The light haven't come out for sometime already and will keep on testing just to be sure.

1.7" piping is enough for N/A engine at 1.5 & 1.6 not need to go until 2.0" that is what the exhaust shop owner tell me.

Anything above 1.7" is for cars like 1.8 and above. And max for N/A engine is 2.0".

Unsure about this fact as i got it from that owner.
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I think quite accurate as my 2.0 turbo only using 2.5"


Added on December 11, 2011, 10:49 am
QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 10 2011, 11:40 PM)
Any cams can you suggest for good idling(almost same as original) ? cool2.gif


Added on December 11, 2011, 12:44 amI am using K&N filter now but it's the original size for my engine. If I change it into K&N mushroom filter, will there any different?
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I think bro. low yat 82 can advise you better on this, but basically older days we call them 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and full cams.
The higher the cam the rougher the idling but power gain is much better in the high end but poor in the lower end.
Lower cam have better idling and good lower end but high end gain is less, so you have to choose properly.

For mushroom type or open pod, best is couple with Cold Air Intake (CAI)

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post Dec 13 2011, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 11 2011, 11:41 PM)
yerp..top speed 265km/h on this waja mivec
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Bro., your friend do 265kmh on this type of tyres??
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post Dec 13 2011, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 13 2011, 08:59 AM)
he claimed like that.. sweat.gif

this is entry level yoko rite?
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Not any major thread pattern that I know off, but the way of thread design is of entry level. Even if higher is only V rated for 240kmh. Performance tyres with W only 270kmh therefore also at limit already. If I were him sure to fit Y rated 300kmh tyres....even now my car limited to 190kmh, I am using Y rated...... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Dec 13 2011, 03:44 PM)
2 mid bullet increase top speed ah?
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Mentioned 3 increase further...... hmm.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 04:24 PM

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Mentioned Top speed 265kmh woh!
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post Dec 13 2011, 04:57 PM

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Mine got no mid box woh! So should fit also...... tongue.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 09:34 PM

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5 min is a long time woh! and my car can only reach 190kmh (got speed cut) tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Dec 14 2011, 01:04 AM)
dei..i'm not that gila mau 265..i mau 200 enough..190 pernah dapat..
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265kmh? I seldom even do my top of 190kmh....... hmm.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Dec 14 2011, 09:25 AM)
i 190 dah mati.then when it get slower,i hidup balik.wahahahaha
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you also have cut off......
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post Dec 15 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 15 2011, 09:33 AM)
Blocked mulffler doesn't contain fiber if not mistakrn.. most midbox in malaysia is wit alot hole. Blocked muffler cannot b found in here..
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Those mid box with raised holes have to be fitted the correct way, but what is blocked muffler?
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post Dec 15 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Dec 15 2011, 01:13 PM)
so plates replacing fiber la?
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Fiber will break down..... sad.gif


Added on December 15, 2011, 4:30 pm
QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 15 2011, 01:12 PM)
ya lo.. 1 way flow..

errmm...dunno call wat but upontheskyriver said its call blocked muffler., so i also use same words lo...lol.. actually its mid box will alot of plates inside to cancel out exhaust noise n tryin to maintain d exhaust velocity... david vizard had tried use these type of midbox for pressure wave tuning by lettin d engine sees this mid box as atmosphere + tuned collector's length..
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Yup, mid box will cut off different dB from muffler....


Added on December 15, 2011, 4:32 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Dec 15 2011, 12:15 PM)
which picture? i saw the waja ones, he said piping is in original size that is 1.7inch...

ok la, i dont know about mivec / vtec...but for campro 1.6 with auto transmission need to use 1.6 / 1.7 piping, i tested already, anything bigger is ok, but you need to rev up all the time like a race car, just to overtake another car on highway..im not talking about top speed..with 1.6 inch or 1.7 inch piping you get some drivibility...

i suggest la you maintain your 2 bullet, and downsize your piping all the way to 1.7inch...or you go to exss work and get their opinion.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Means too big the piping loss low end torque (drivibility)..... hmm.gif

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post Dec 16 2011, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 15 2011, 08:15 PM)
aiyoo..inside the Blocked type muffler is like this  drool.gif  drool.gif
Thanks for the info.....
So, instead of chamber with fiber they use metal plates and chamber design.....At least these won't disappear like the fiber.....


Added on December 16, 2011, 7:52 am
QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 15 2011, 11:59 PM)
You are KK person also? How to check whether the exhaust got leak or not arh?  hmm.gif 
After I have changed the exhaust system, I still cant feel the different in pickup yet... Just top end and torque increase a bit only... Not satisfied enough yet  mad.gif
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Bro., don't expect powerful pick up with exhaust mod. It does not increase engine power, but just release some of it....

That is why from my early days playing around with all these, have change to forced induction...... blush.gif

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post Dec 16 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 16 2011, 09:18 AM)
Will fuel injection better power than carb?
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Not really. If both tuned properly can be just as good. Only fuel injected got brain (ECU) to control.

You may want to try using those twin carbs., or after market Weber carb. which will increase your engine power, rather then change to fuel injection.


Added on December 16, 2011, 11:11 am
QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 16 2011, 09:52 AM)
Even just changing the head of carb to fuel injection also will increase power? How much will it cost?
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Cannot just change like that. You will need to change wiring, get ECU, and change fuel pump also. Quite a bit to change..

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post Dec 16 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 16 2011, 04:47 PM)

weber... prepare at least around 1k include all tapak n etc..
Don't know the prices now.
Yup, will need an adapter, the air filter, but I remember got no FICD.....
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post Dec 17 2011, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 16 2011, 11:10 PM)
This kind of thing is hard to say leh.... U ask them, if u r not satisfied, can u get refund?
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Cool, your knowledge now pretty good... tongue.gif
Yup, always a problem. When you ask time, everything can. Later they give excuse because of this lah and that leh..... doh.gif unless you know the shop people well...... brows.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 06:44 PM

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High cam then yes......
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post Dec 19 2011, 07:27 AM

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hu! hu! had fun time there? What was your time before?
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post Dec 19 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 19 2011, 11:06 AM)
Will after market carb cause the engine eat much petrol? I am thinking to change from
Carb to fuel injection. What is the sum of the price?
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Better you transplant whole engine, as not easy just to get the fuel injection conversion....

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