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Emo due to torsion beam. RM1150, GaGa or Gabby, same! Drive safe! Don't gymkhana!!!

Don't be so lansi. Abanza, Bios, Algis, Biba, Mybi all same problem with GaGa, Gabby & Exoga = Bent torsion beam if whack too much corner Tibai torsion beam soft like tofu(quote dares) Keep on gymkhana lar, SC said this is wear & tear item, not include warranty just like the tofu rack mieza broken a month or 2 ago no more gymkhana for me. I'm joining ericmaxman

Torsion beam itself can crack your nuts no doubt its tough enough to carry weight, but no the 1 on our potong chassis. Torsion rack end is absorver mounting and coil spring housing. However, the tapak drumbrake is a 2mm steel plate welded at the end of torsion beam nia. So, if often go pek kornar, the plate will lean backward, camber out. If pull henbrek drift, camber + toe out when u see the bent, try to use hydraulic jack to pump it out(that's what makat fella will do), it will be back to normal, but dunno when the welding seem will crack lar

Teoh brothers offered an alternative, managed to save the torsion, but still cam -1' toe -1' both rear wheel. Alignment more than 10 times also no use, can't be fully restore. Better than hellflush, don't care lar. No more gymkhana. Good luck

That I dunno. We're trying our best to fix the beam, if not -1, else +1. If +1 tayar will bent inward, car can terbabas like Mybi anytime. So in the end after manytimes adjustment(imagine had to take out everything and refix them again to check alignment) we settled with -1'. Ah Hee said, that's the best he can do, I oso paiseh liao since he only charge me 130(so many times alignment!!!). So I guess this is closest to factory liao if your statement is strue.

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Was having little fun with GaGa this evening, am particularly looking for Gabby to bully, as I reached LDP Damansara tool, so happened infront is a black Gabby with R3 bodykit & a huge exhaust! I waited my change, then I grdually accelerated near to that car. Been following it for awhile, the Gabby seems didn't realize I'm at the back continue driving 60 @ fast lane. I downshift to 2nd gear, getting ready to engage.

As soon as we hit Bandar Utama,he accelerated, so as I following closely. I can see the D4F engine is struggling as the Gabby finishes its 2nd gear, blown some smoke whilst he clutched. On 3rd gear, he continue to struggle as my RPM crawling up gradually, keeping up with no sweat at all. As we getting into tunnel, I thought I'd overtake & ditch the Gabby and finish it. As we gets into the tunnel, suddenly reminds me of the tofu beam, I let loose abit throttle. The Gabby was roaring inside the tunnel, my speedometer showing 80kmh, but the Gabby started pulling off, as I see its backwheel OPEN CAMBER!!! WTF?! I didn't know torsion beam was designed to bend! I was slowly catching up at SS2, the Gabby pull to middle lane with double signal. I gradually passes by, sounded my honk twice as a friendly gesture, then I continue to sprint off. The Gabby catch up at Kelana Jaya, I wasn't prepare for a 2nd round, so I slip to middle lane and give way. My speed was around 120kmh, and the Gabby overtook me from my right, speeding up the ram. I was smelling the Gabby's fume not far from it. As we reach infront of Giant, the Gabby continue acceleration, then gradually pulling away from me! As I seen the taling, steadily pushing G-force at the small curve after pos ofiz, a short straight road then he hit the westerndigital ram, then vanished. It was marvelous experience to play with the GaGa "smaller" big brother. I wasn't realize the torsion beam was meant to be that way when attacking corner. Learn a little bit more on torsion beam today as I suffer a minor loss in repairing it. Bravo Plotong.

It was IN the tunnel(cornering) of LDP between SS2/BU. I couldn't see the torsion beam because Gabby skirting too low, but the tire did went senget as cutting in. I was doing 80kmh, I assume the Gabby was doing 90 or so. It was a hard right as I see the Gabby turning in with slight bodyroll, but the right(driver side) backwheel camber out With that alone, I can feel so much stress the torsion beam being taking in.

In the tunnel, after the right turn, followed by a mild left turn(should be a correction point before moving uphill). That part I didn't see it as I was busy maneuvering my GaGa. After my correction, I catched up with the Gabby and saw its rear wheel already aligned back to normal on the straight road before he move to middle lane.

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I've been spending whole day starring at other people's butt, see how their car throw into action. The seriously hopeless champion would be old plotong saga 1.5i. Being a torque converter 3AT, speeding at corner meaning driving declutched, the whole backside swaying like doing samba. All cars avoiding him and he still think his car hou lan yeng

Then I also saw dugong @ Jalan Istana at the Sg Besi exit ram, but the bodyroll is unaceptably crazy. Despite the car not swaying left/right, but it just looks going to flip over anytime. Can see the tire over power the car's actual handling.

On any GaGa, be it BLM/FL/FLX/SE, pay attention when they whack corner. The camber out is very obvious on our car. If you look at the door trim, there isn't much flex on the body itself, you wouldn't feel the car gonna flip over. You'll be more likely worried whether the tires can continue to hold on the road, or it's going to be ended up with a drift

p/s: our rear wheels no chamber adjuster If you have a bent torsion, be prepare to spend RM1150(the beam alone).

Don't avoid. It was designed that way Next time you get a Pesoga run parallel with a GaGa, get them take the corner at same speed on the same road, you see from behind then you'll see how the magic works on torsion beam. It just that, regularly pushing limits on the torsion may result in some other parts being weaken/permanent bent/break. When multilinks can use a camber screw to readjust it, but the poor torsion beam.... chamber screw wanna screw where(hello, torsion beam)? Dares's si fut loong

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90% agreed with mat79. However, the RSB thing was kinda out of sense in my opinion. Torsion beam was linked between the lower part of the chassis, whereas RSB was meant for cabin(upper part of chassis). RSB does not directly affect the flexibility of torsion beam, infact it strengthen the chassis. I also found the RSB had produced MORE modyroll than before as the car wasn't able to bent. As a result, the absorber will have to work harder(travel more distance) to balance the car, torsion beam at the same time will have to work harder to keep the outter wheels on the floor whilst attacking corners.

All in all, RSB will have to sacrifies part of the comfortability, but it doesn't seemed to have too much bad effect to the torsion beam. Regardless, whacking corner like a moron day in day out will spoil your car, that is no doubt, be it with or without RSB. This is my opinion on RSB vs Torsion beam.

Both! Gabby out by 9.4mm, GaGa out by 3.2mm. Both fixed by adding cushion on the brakehub platform, but wasn't able to fix it back to 100% original.

To reply dares, knock/jack is not recommended. The welding seems is at the outter part of the torsion rack end, if compressed already jack it out, the welding spot may crack due to tensile weakness. However, if met accident slammed into road curb, one can use hydraulic jack to compress the tapak hub back to normal.

To V12k,

If go Kuala Langat area from cheras can use Kajang(bad traffic). If from MRR2, just go straight to Sri Petaling, after pass by Endah Parade on the right, keep to extreme left go up to the most left ram then u will be follow the road go to RM2.50 toll. I normally go Dengkil 1st before heading to Kuala Langat/Banting/Jenjarom/Panglima/Sijangkang/Botanic. So you see where fits you lar.