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TSprophetjul
post Aug 17 2017, 11:39 AM

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Some sharp eye Jack caught this on UMS!


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The Bonus Shares will be issued as fully paid, at nil consideration and without capitalisation of
the Company’s reserves.
The Bonus Shares, when allotted and issued, will rank pari passu in
all respects with the then existing issued Shares and with each other, except that the Bonus
Shares will not be entitled to any dividends, rights, allotments or distributions, the record date
of which falls before the date of allotment and issue of such Bonus Shares.



This appears in essence as a share SPLIT, not a BONUS issue! Management trying to pull a fast one?


cherroy ?
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post Aug 17 2017, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2017, 11:45 AM)
I don't follow what is happening on the particular company.
But I don't know how a company can issue bonus issue without capitalisation from either retained earning or share premium account.

Wish to know how to do it as well to improve my knowledge on this field.
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Nor did i.

Therefore it could be a disguised stock split exercise in this case.

Here, the full announcement.

http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/UMS_Announ...t&FileID=466548
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post Aug 17 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 17 2017, 11:50 AM)
Bro,... perhaps our approach to this matter is different, you are concerned abt the accounting at company-side, whereas for myself, I am more focussed on my Average Price, and the future earning capacity of the company. For me, I would prefer to have more shares at as low an Average Price as possible without delving too much into the capital structure and retained earnings of the company,...

I would think abt those two matters too, but more in a secondary way,...
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Bro.

It is also important to understand what the management is trying to do. What if your shares are diluted? That action will destroy the value of your shares.

Right now reading between the lines of the announcement, it feels like a share split and not a bonus issue. This action has no effect on your shares except to bring down the share price.

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post Aug 17 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 17 2017, 12:06 PM)
Yeah,... I saw those final few postings too,... however, I don't think UMS will call it a Bonus Issue if it is not one,...

Dilution-wise,... my Average Price is low enough to withstand it, to the extent that it has to drop till 0.75 pre-issue before I will be affected. Otherwise, I will continue to remain in the green.
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The normal practice for Bonus issue is to capitalize on cash reserves. This is proper accounting practice.
To announce that it does not capitalise is rather strange.

It can only mean that its is in fact a share split. If this is the case, then your holdings are not diluted. Nothing changes to your total value except the share price.
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post Aug 17 2017, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 17 2017, 12:25 PM)
Yes, aware of the above,... Frankly, if they are holding back the cash and not using it to 'carry' the value of each Bonus Share later-on, it will be a bigger concern to me. Value of a share, as in NAV per share can easily be made to go missing if a mgmt wanted it to,...

If this is going to be a stock split, then I would want to be paid more dividends for 2Q, since the earnings have gone over the roof.
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Is that a fact or projection?

If the earnings are up, in the case of a stock split, it will not matter anyway.
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post Aug 17 2017, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 17 2017, 01:45 PM)
Bro Prophet,... if possible, read for yourself,... results very good this qtr,...

I'm busy,... suddenly moving,... don't know which insto shoke the tree and turned around now.
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UMS Holdings Limited Reports Unaudited Consolidated Earnings Results for the First Quarter Ended March 31, 2017
Source: Company Website, Singapore Exchange
Type: Announcements of Earnings
From: 12/May/2017

UMS Holdings Limited reported unaudited consolidated earnings results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2017. For the quarter, the company's revenue was SGD 41,760,000 against SGD 20,362,000 a year ago. The increase was mainly attributed to the strong performance by its Semiconductor business segment. Profit before income tax was SGD 12,425,000 against SGD 3,705,000 a year ago. Net profit for the period from continuing operations was SGD 11,168,000 against SGD 3,380,000 a year ago. The surge in net profit came on the back of the Group's strong sales growth in first quarter of 2017. Net profit attributable to equity holders of the company was SGD 11,168,000 or 2.60 cents per basic and diluted share against SGD 3,380,000 or 0.79 cents per basic and diluted share a year ago. Net cash generated from operating activities was SGD 7,788,000 against SGD 5,629,000 a year ago. Purchase of property, plant and equipment was SGD 939,000 against SGD 593,000 a year ago


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UMS Holdings Limited Reports Unaudited Consolidated Earnings Results for the Second Quarter and Six Months Ended June 30, 2017; Provides Earnings Guidance for the Full Year of 2017
Source: Singapore Exchange
Type: Corporate Guidance - New/Confirmed
From: 11/Aug/2017

UMS Holdings Limited reported unaudited consolidated earnings results for the second quarter and six months ended June 30, 2017. For the quarter, revenue was SGD 42,734,000 against SGD 23,607,000 a year ago. Profit before income tax was SGD 12,557,000 against SGD 7,268,000 a year ago. Net profit for the period from continuing operations was SGD 11,293,000 against SGD 6,469,000 a year ago. Net profit attributable to equity holders of the company was SGD 11,482,000 against SGD 6,469,000 a year ago. Net cash generated from operating activities was SGD 12,988,000 against SGD 5,727,000 a year ago. Purchase of property, plant and equipment was SGD 2,704,000 against SGD 574,000 a year ago. Earnings per diluted ordinary share were 2.68 cents against 1.51 cents a year ago. For six months, revenue was SGD 84,494,000 against SGD 43,969,000 a year ago. Profit before income tax was SGD 24,982,000 against SGD 10,973,000 a year ago. Net profit for the period from continuing operations was SGD 22,461,000 against SGD 9,849,000 a year ago. Net profit attributable to equity holders of the company was SGD 22,650,000 against SGD 9,849,000 a year ago. Net cash generated from operating activities was SGD 20,776,000 against SGD 11,356,000 a year ago. Purchase of property, plant and equipment was SGD 3,643,000 against SGD 1,167,000 a year ago. Earnings per diluted ordinary share were 5.28 cents against 2.30 cents a year ago. Barring unforeseen circumstances, 2017 will remain a profitable year for the Group.


Yeah...earnings are not bad. Not too demanding on the present price with 5.28 cents earnings per share last 6 months.
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:06 AM

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Croesus Retail Trust posts 18.2% rise in Q4 DPU

SINGAPORE - Japan-focused Croesus Retail Trust (CRT) reported a 18.2 per cent rise in fourth-quarter distribution per unit (DPU) to 2.01 Singapore cents from 1.70 cents.
CRT is in the process of being delisted after private equity giant Blackstone Group succeeded in its S$900m buyout offer.
For the three month to end June, CRT saw an 11.9 per cent increase in gross revenue to 2.99 billion yen, due mainly to the acquisition of Fuji Grand Natalie on April 18, 2016, and Mallage Saga and Feeeal Asahikawa on May 27, 2016. Revenue was also boosted by higher variable rent from better tenant sales in Mallage Shobu and a strong performance by the cinema in Torius.



CRT's net property income edged up 0.1 per cent to 1.44 billion yen as gross revenue increase was offset by higher expense ratios in newly acquired properties and the expenses from refurbishment works in Mallage Shobu.

For the full year, DPU came to 7.66 cents, 12.2 per cent higher than the restated DPU for the previous financial year of 6.83 cents.
DPU was restated for the fourth quarter and full-year of the last fiscal year to reflect the effect of an enlarged unit base after a preferential offering on Aug 25, 2016.



DPU of 4.063 cents will be distributed for the second half-year.


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Succeeded ???? When was it approved by shareholders????? confused.gif
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:11 AM

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Blackstone gets SGX-ST nod to delist Japan-focused Croesus Retail Trust

Tanu Pandey
August 17, 2017
Blackstone Group has received a green light from the Singapore Exchange Securities Trading Limited (SGX-ST) to de-list Croesus Retail Trust (CRT) as part of the acquisition that will see the private equity major acquire the Japan-focused property operator via a trust scheme for $649.8 million.
The private equity firm  had made an offer in June to acquire all units in Croesus through a trust scheme, with a consideration of S$1.17 in cash per unit.
The application to SGX-ST for a nod to delist was made by the  board of directors of Croesus Retail Asset Management Pte. Ltd, the trustee-manager and Blackstone-backed Cyrus BidCo Pte Ltd.

“SGX-ST has, on 16 August 2017, advised that it has no objection to the Trustee-Manager’s application to delist and remove CRT from the Official List of the SGX-ST,” CRT said in an announcement on Thursday.

The de-listing will take place based on SGX-ST’s listing requirements and approval of the scheme by a majority in number of unitholders present and voting and approval of the High Court of the Republic of Singapore being obtained for the Scheme.
The buyout deal – a growing trend among large private equity investors and asset managers globally – is understood to boost Blackstone realty portfolio. The big real estate buyouts in recent times that have caught the attention of Singapore were the recently concluded Global Logistic Properties deal, United Engineers and CWT.

CRT that had been backing the buyout and privatisation, had said in June that the trust scheme represents an opportunity for unitholders to realise their investment at an attractive valuation, and at significant premiums to the historical trading prices of the units, the net asset value per unit and the net tangible asset per unit, and at an implied valuation which exceeds the latest market value of the properties of CRT as of June 30, 2016.
CRT’s asset portfolio includes retail properties and seven retail properties which comprise Aeon Town Moriya, Aeon Town Suzuka, Mallage Shobu, Luz Omori, One’s Mall, Croesus Shinsaibashi, Croesus Tachikawa, Torius, Fuji Grand Natalie, Mallage Saga and Feeeal Asahikawa.

Blackstone, backed by heavy real estate portfolio, has been seen to be quite bullish on the Asia real estate sector and is among the largest institutional real estate investors worldwide. It is also one of the largest retail owners in the world, with investments in 563 properties globally and 15 properties.
The firm had appointed veteran banker Christopher Heady as chairman of its Asia-Pacific businesses, promoting the executive who helped the firm expand its real estate business in the region.

https://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/blac...il-trust-80518/
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 18 2017, 10:11 AM)
Macam itu pun boleh? Can we make noise/lodge a complain?
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ALL this is a conspiracy by the management and some of the top shareholders methinks. Maybe they had better offers from Blackstone than Joe public.
Is that not corruption?
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 12:22 PM)
Bro,... that 4.063 Cts,... is this IN ADDITION to what that was proposed in the Buyout Offer, OR,... this 4.063 Cts is part of their offer ?
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No lah........the offer was 1.17 per share buyout plus 4.06 DPU per share.

Do not confuse company declaration and the buyout offer. They are independent of each other.
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 18 2017, 12:42 PM)
Really? Everybody expect somebody to write and in the end nobody will write to the regulators.
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TBF that was from a tabloid, not from the company itself.

If it was from the company, I would make the complaint.
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 18 2017, 01:14 PM)
thumbup.gif  as expectedly, they will declare 2017 earnings before the acquisition
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Rub more salt in. mad.gif
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 18 2017, 01:20 PM)
Hehe, I am sure you have experienced worse counters where the majority shareholders screwed the minority

Croesus is not that bad lah. Make you very good returns
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Yeah

I guess there are more scrupulous shareholders
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 01:24 PM)
Sure,... when I raised this issue earlier, I did not see this explanations from you,...
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I assume you were referring to the earlier announcements?
Sorry. I did not see the question then.

But there are two separate entities here.

One is the company making their normal announcements like they should without being prejudiced by the offer.
The other is the offer by Blackstone.
Totally separate matters.
So in that sense, the Blackstone offer is not prejudiced by the company's announcements. So even if the company announced 10 cents DPU, and the offer was successfully concluded, Blackstone is only obliged to pay 4.06 cents DPU.

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post Aug 18 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 01:29 PM)
No bro,... I think what my bro Ram meant to say was : to complain against how that article was being written, ie not accurately presented when the buyout is not truely successful yet,... that's what he meant,...

He has a point,...

Yeah, when I wanted to quote the articl, I couldn't find that line in the PR nor in the detailed reports,... Prophet clarified it's in a tabloid now,...

So,.. tabloid ? Also can't complain to the regulators,... see if the regulators can take actions or not, eg,... to ask CRT to clarify what was written in the tabloid,...all these are possible and necessary in SG,... otherwise, I'm,... haha,... not investing there anymore.
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You cannot control tabloids to a certain extend. All these are subjected to one's interpretations.
However, as you mentioned, you can seek clarification from the company on this.

All in all, it seems that everything has already being managed by the scrupulous management to ensure the success of the buyout. That's for sure.
Maybe after the buyout, the manager's salary will triple?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 01:38 PM)
Okay,... understood,... I think back then,... nobody understood how the ann'ts were inter-related,... not even the seasoned investors in SG,...

SO,... I asked, rather than keeping quiet,...

I was the only one raising this issue,... and haha, one of them in an SG forum commented against me, saying he is not counting half-cent here and one-cent there,.. I wanted to hit him back, but pulled my words back.

Yeah... half cent-here and one-cent there,... if he got only 5000 shares, then no need to count-lar,... what abt someone else who has 100000 shares ?? That's 5000 bucks of half cent difference, right, bro ??
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Yeah'

For small holding, it is nothing. For large holding, any half cent is significant.
For 100,000 shares, it is $500. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 18 2017, 01:42 PM

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SO, what is next for ex Croseus shareholders?

Where is that counter which can present similar returns?

Funny enough, earlier Saizen, another Japanese asset Reit was also privatized.
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 01:42 PM)
Bro,... we must know our stuff well enough, then we can comment,... sometimes we may be wrong, it's ok,... but shouldn't be wrong too many times,...

So, since we know our stuff here about the events through and through,.. I will indicate to the regulators already - no need to seek clarification from the tabloid publisher anymore. Tabloid is confusing investors in the mkt,.... no good,... if people who handled 1MDB transactions can go to jail because SG needs a clean image, this is what regulators will help us with,...

This is also the reason why we are investing in SG !!
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No lah, bro. Tabloids are difficult to regulate.
SGX can only regulate the companies. So if we read unclear or ambiguous reports in tabloids of our invested interests, we can only ask the company for clarifications

That's why they always put in disclaimers in their announcements like these.


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In the meantime, Unitholders are advised to refrain from taking any action in relation to their Units which may be prejudicial to their interests, until they or their advisers have considered the information and the recommendation of the Independent Directors on the Scheme as well as the advice of the IFA which will be set out in the Scheme Document.

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post Aug 18 2017, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 18 2017, 01:46 PM)
I moved a large amt to Parkway Life REIT that morning,... the price kept rising after that,... sad.gif
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Means it was a good action on your part!
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post Aug 18 2017, 01:48 PM

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Maybe I should switch to UMS now. biggrin.gif



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