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post Aug 20 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 20 2017, 09:18 PM)
Eh eh mana ada? According to your "son" icemanfx, he mentioned you won the brexit bet worth 7 million. Not sure 7 million SGD/RM/USD/GBP tongue.gif

If the bet didn't go in your favour, 7 million burn right? Care to share how you execute that bet? How did you know brexit will happen?
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Me and my son's conversation remains in /k biggrin.gif

The joke was actually about his luck (the lack of). He is so unlucky until what he predicted went totally opposite. Not one time or two times. It went straight like 7-8 times. Proven with his predictions made before and after the event. Sometimes in matter of days. I remember he predicted Grexit 1 week before, but didn't happen. Oil price going down some more when it was $28, then shot back up to $50. DJI he predicted going up when 18xxx, then fell to 15xxx. Shanghai stock index was at 5xxx and he predicted up, and then crashed to 3xxx. RM was still depreciating at 4.7xx and he predicted going down further, but climbed back to <3.9xxx. There are a few more which I can't remember....He has such tough luck, which made us joke about we will just buy the opposite of what he predicted, and we will make heaps of money. Of course I didn't actually did that.

I didn't recall any 7million he talk about, but the above is some background of the joke

My signature is what he said >1 year ago, and looks like his luck will not improve. Anyway that is the last of his prediction I will track. Enough of proof.... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2017, 07:18 AM

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Bro Hans, save your breath, minority shareholders cannot fight the majority shareholders one....

There are many good companies beside CRT. Move on...
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post Sep 11 2017, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 11 2017, 11:20 AM)
Yeah bro Showtime,... but,... the shareholding structure for CRT is highly spread-out, hence, if,... the voting process is indeed clean and fir as according to theories, then CRT shareholders would have a great chance here to vote this one down,...

This is SINGAPORE, we are here because we believed in the system,... I don't know abt others, but I would like to do my part to continue participating in the fairness and transparency of this great city state. It is worthit to do so on this place,...

In 'other countries',... they will ferry-in busloads of 'new citizens and PRs' to voting centres just to win an election,... how to trust such systems ??
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It is never clean in business world. PLC shareholder's spread is just for show. There are many proxies for the majority shareholders.

Notice the price increased from 0.70/0.80 up to 1.00 even before the announcement ? Who do you think sapu-ed the units ?

Anyway, do what you feel is right. I support you thumbup.gif

When is the EGM ? When the result comes out, then either one of us can say loud loud "I told you so..." biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianYap13 @ Oct 3 2017, 05:23 PM)
Hi for e-KYC purposes, we conduct a video call and you would have to upload a pic of your IC.

All this can be done from your home.

After that you just wire the MYR to our MYR account and we will release the SGD to your recipient.

It can get a bit tedious as you are on-boarding for the first time. Subsequent transactions are very quick.  Its a slight hassle to save quite abit of MYR.

Hope you will try us out.

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Hi Adrian welcome to LYN !

Just had a look at your SGD rate, which is 3.1309 now

Do you offer better rates for bigger amount ? With XE Currency’s middle rate of 3.1048, can you offer 3.1100 ? If so, how big the amount you expect ?

Thanks !
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post Oct 4 2017, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Oct 3 2017, 11:37 PM)
i buy SGD using xe.com rate from a SG businessman. like barter trade lol.  tongue.gif

so moneymatch rates is too expensive for me.
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Wow ! Win win for both thumbup.gif

Yea, moneymatch rate is also too high compared to bank’s special rates. Hope he can offer better rates. Let’s see...
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post Oct 4 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Oct 4 2017, 11:43 AM)
btw gark,

if i were to do a barter trade with a singaporean, does it clash with any laws?  hmm.gif

example, i bankin to this fellas MY bank acc, in exchange he bankin the equivalent amount of SGD into my sg bank account.
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If you are acting in good faith, ie. arms length business transaction, you have no responsibility to make sure the other party acquire their money legally. It is the banks which have the ultimate responsibility to vet through their customers and make sure all their transaction money is "clean"

Look at your barter transaction with the other party as a contract, just like buying some goods (SGD in your case) from him. Your contract is based on market rates. Hence, it is a normal business transaction. Individual has no responsibility to vet through their customer/supplier for money laundering.

And if it happens that the other party indeed acquired his money illegally, you have the defence under the Laws for money laundering and terrorism financing provided you "...did not have the knowledge and/or did not have reasonable grounds to believe that the property represented the benefits of criminal conduct. A company or individual's compliance with industry best practice codes will improve the chances of this defence being accepted by the courts...."

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/...age=true&bhcp=1

So don't worry if you change at XE.com rate. If one day, the other party offer you SDG1.00:RM2.00, then you better becareful. You may be helping the other party money launder dirty money biggrin.gif
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post Oct 5 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianYap13 @ Oct 5 2017, 03:23 PM)
Hi Lyn,

How big are we talking about here? We have a MYR 30k per customer, per day limit set by BNM.

MYR 200k per customer , per day for SME.

If you are uncomfortable disclosing you can PM me directly.

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Bank special rate is 0.3% spread over XE middle rate for RM150k and above

0.2% for above RM1m

Would you be able to do better than them for those amount ?

Otherwise I don’t mind transfer RM30k if you can match their rates thumbup.gif
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post Oct 5 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianYap13 @ Oct 5 2017, 04:33 PM)
Haha.. well if you really are serious about sending SGD over, drop me a PM and we can have a chat about the rates.!
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post Oct 12 2017, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 11 2017, 04:08 PM)
Bros,... should I start a thread on discussions for Private Banking and Wealth Management ? Maybe can exchange some ideas,...

There's been lots of movement in the private banking industry,...
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Are there many Sg Private/Priority banking customers here ? If there are, then it would be good to have a dedicated thread to share interesting structured products
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post Oct 12 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 11 2017, 05:02 PM)
That's already a thread on priority banking. Not sure if that's counted. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/554471
Most of it is about best bank with priority service (malaysian focus only)
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The thread talks about perks like free parking, free coffee, and lenglui RM only....

Not about wealth management and investment products that can make money

Can't blame them. Malaysia priority banking has limited investment product offers. Even if they have, the return is lousy compare to Singapore
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post Oct 12 2017, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 12 2017, 05:26 PM)
Okay, bro,... let's see,.. may start it later,...

I heard from my PB RM who came to visit me that she's also visiting a few other clients in KL and Penang at the same time,... asked whom they are, she mentioned some Berhad co director names,... but did not elaborate further.... so, I think there are quite a few in Msia.

I know a few friends of mine were with Credit-Suisse earlier,... but pulled-out after something happened. NOt all have good structured products though, and we must be careful enough not to invest in everything they push to us,... especially IPOs,... asking us to 'makan' all the units,...

There was a time when CIMB tried to push me too,... back then,... I still remembered it was for the China Construction Bank Listing in the SSE, or HKSE,...... I said no-lar,.. I know,... OCBC Msia - free parking in front of their branch, hehe,... Citibank too,... hehe,..
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Yea, my RM flies to KL quite often too. Every time ask to meet to introduce products. They even organise private seminars like estate planning in tax haven etc. So I suppose there are many here in Malaysia who are their clients to warrant them to come here so often. Whereas malaysia RM so near to me never even ask for appointment in the office or organise those seminars. Customer dinner with door gifts got lah but who are interested in those things doh.gif

I don't think here in forum we have that many PB customers. So your thread may be tak laku one biggrin.gif

Maybe we use PM if we want to share info thumbup.gif
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post Oct 13 2017, 04:00 PM

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Unqualified in plain english means no problem for the accounts. I think now audit report must also raise concerns if the auditors think that the company may sink in the coming year, in addition to expressing their opinion on the previous year's financial statements

Have to look at the audit report to determine what exactly the auditors meant. I guess they issue unqualified report for the accounts of the past year. Meaning no problem for what has happened. But something must have happened after the following accounting year where the auditors felt that the company's operation/health will be affected. Like sudden change of business environment, change of key management, took up very big debt on a bad acquisition, or some material events affecting the whole company etc. Until they are doubtful on the company's future

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post Oct 29 2017, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 29 2017, 06:42 AM)
I dont think it relates to SGX?hmm...

Copy from investopedie
An alternative trading system is one that is not regulated as an exchange but is a venue for matching the buy and sell orders of its subscribers. Alternative trading systems are becoming increasingly popular around the world and account for much of the liquidity found in publicly traded issues.

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https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-gain-from-ats/

You may think differently after you read...
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post May 26 2018, 12:32 PM

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prince_mk98, Hansel Ramjade

Just curious, how much a person can save if he opens an account in Singapore vs buying shares through local platform like CIMBtrade, HLebroker MBB etc ?

Say like investment of RM50k in SGX stock....the brokerage, dividend handling fee etc. Say SGX dividend yield is 7%, 2 times per year ?

I am sure you guys have calculated the difference in detail to arrive at your conclusion ?
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post May 26 2018, 08:06 PM

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Here is what I got from google : https://kclau.com/investment/trade-global-shares/

Written in Jan 2016. I suppose it is still relevant today. Here are a few :

1. eAlliance Min S$25 or 0.10%, Dividend fee 0.5% of net dividend

2. JF Apex Min S$25 or 0.18%, Dividend fee 0.06%

3. CIMB iTrade Min S$28, or 0.42%, Dividend 1%

4. HL Broker Min S$30, or 0.35%, Dividend fee RM2.50 (??)

5. M2U Min S$25, or 0.4%, Dividend fee RM5.83 (??)


So let's say I have RM60k (S$20k), buy 3 stock, 7% dividend, 2 dividend per year


Brokerage

Use My platform - $20k x 0.10% = $20. Below min, so it would be $25 x 3 counters = $75

Use Sg platform - min is around $18, the lowest is $10 ? So compare to $25, its additional $21-$45 for $20000 total capital

$45 / $20000 = 0.225% extra cost


Dividend

I don't know about the accuracy of the dividend fee charges in the website. Based on eAlliance 0.5% of net dividend, it is $7 per dividend. Let's take around $10 per dividend for easy calculation.

So, the extra charges will be $10 x 6 times = $60 per year

$20000 x 7% yield = $1400 - $60 = $1340 net dividend

7% yield becomes 6.7%. 0.3% goes to dividend fees.

To me, I will incorporate the 0.3% into my dividend yield expectation when I research my target counter. Just like I incorporate the dividend tax when investing into US and ASX stocks



My take :
It is not that bad to invest in foreign stock through local platform. The extra cost is acceptable to me. If he is a trader, then no question use Sg platform.

If you view the $45 brokerage and $60 dividend fee as "substantial" to you, then by all means, go open an account in Singapore





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post Oct 11 2018, 10:59 AM

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Wait longer lah.....

1 mountain got 1 mountain high

1 stock market got 1 stock market low

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QUOTE(kart @ Oct 11 2018, 10:52 PM)
Showtime747, thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.  thumbup.gif

I am fine, being patient. Kindly advise the right time to invest in S-REITs.

Once you give the go-ahead, we will invest with whatever money we can allocate. Thank again. smile.gif
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Don’t know whether your comment is serious or not biggrin.gif

If you are not serious, then I would say : be patient, now is not bottom yet...wait for the dead cat bounce, and then the real crash that follows...that is the real bottom

If you are serious, then I would say : don’t listen to others, especially online comments... because if you want to die, better to die in your own hand (decision) instead of being killed by another people’s comments
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post Nov 6 2018, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 5 2018, 07:18 PM)
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/GO_012018_01.pdf

" 1.4 Program Khas ini juga bertujuan memberi peluang kepada pembayar cukai melaporkan pendapatan yang sepatutnya selaras dengan pelaksanaan Common Reporting Standard (CRS) pada 30 September 2018 yang mana LHDNM bakal menerima maklumat kewangan pembayar cukai daripada pentadbir cukai luar negara. "
http://www.hasil.gov.my/bt_goindex.php?bt_...=5000&bt_sequ=3

" Pendapatan Diremit Dari Luar Malaysia

Mulai tahun taksiran 2004, pendapatan yang diperoleh dari luar Malaysia dan diterima di Malaysia oleh seseorang individu yang bermastautin dan diremitkan ke Malaysia dikecualikan daripada cukai pendapatan. "
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From what I understand,

1. Looks like an amnesty program for people who did not pay / underpay / evade income tax previously.
2. Penalty if you declare during this period is only 10% instead of the usual 80%-300%
3. Intention is to get more tax money back, as after this declaration, tax payer will be cleared
4. It includes the current tax cases fighting in court. So I suspect many people will take advantage and pay only 10% penalty to settle the court case
5. For income not taxable (like dividend and capital gain), no need to declare under this program. LHDN will say “don’t waste my precious time as you got no money to give me”
6. Overseas dividend and capital gain is not taxable in Malaysia, so no need to declare.
7. If you are Australian tax resident for example, overseas dividend income and capital gain is taxable. Then you have to declare to ATO.

So, if I read it correctly, if you have undeclared taxable income for 2017 and before, this is a good time to pay your tax. Because the amount of tax is only tax + 10%. Without this, the penalty could be up to 300%

If you have non-taxable income like dividend and capital gain (including from overseas), LHDN says “don’t come and kacau me, waste my time only”

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post Nov 6 2018, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 6 2018, 09:04 AM)
If you are right - then we just need to ensure we pay our taxes diligently in Msia, and whatever we have outside of the country will be fine and not taxable. So, no need to declare our foreign investment income.
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If you talk about "diligently", most of us do "trade regularly". There is no fixed rule to differentiate exactly how many trades are considered a "trader" or a "long term capital gain investor". A few times a year over the recent years could be deemed a regular "trader" if they want to be strict.

If you only buy one stock and keep it for 5 years, that should be considered "capital gain". But who buy just one stock and for keep 5 years ? Most people will diversify and keep a portfolio. And if during an assessment year, you buy and sell a few times, they can argue you are a trader and tax you

However, it is very rare a regular investors or punter/trader being taxed in Malaysia for "trading". At least I have not heard of it.

The tax law is there for both Malaysia and SIngapore. If a person really want to be a good tax citizen, he should declare for buying and selling within the year. But you will be a rare breed biggrin.gif

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