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post Jul 31 2013, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 31 2013, 08:26 AM)
CIMB is bullish, not just on REITs, but on property too...
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but they totally NOT mention a single word on bond yield and spread, like that totally not important, totally short term panic.
anyway, these people very used to suddenly downgrade TP 30% just like a piece of cake. laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:23 AM)
This one?

How'd it impact stareit DPU?

5109    STAREIT    STARHILL REITS 
MULTIPLE PROPOSALS 

STARHILL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST (STARHILL REIT OR TRUST)
(I)  PROPOSED PLACEMENT OF NEW UNITS IN STARHILL REIT (PLACEMENT UNITS), AT A
PRICE TO BE DETERMINED LATER, TO RAISE GROSS PROCEEDS OF UP TO RM800 MILLION;
(II) PROPOSED INCREASE IN THE EXISTING APPROVED FUND SIZE OF STARHILL REIT FROM
1,324,388,889 UNITS UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 2,125,000,000 UNITS; AND
(III) PROPOSED INCREASE IN BORROWING LIMIT TO 60% OF TOTAL ASSET VALUE
(COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS THE "PROPOSALS")
You are advised to read the full contents of the announcement or attachment at
http://www.bursamalaysia.com
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major problem is, we don't know how to calculate its future DPU. rclxub.gif
and no IB wants to talk to the management for us and write a paper on it. sad.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 1 2013, 03:55 PM)
Disposed by US Fund named Capital Income Builder & local fund by EPF.
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now, the "premium" attached to high liquidity stocks by IB's TP becomes a doubt. This probably means "premium for high volatility". cool2.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 2 2013, 05:14 PM)
HEKTAR REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST

Second Interim Dividend of 2.6 sen gross per HEKTAR REIT unit for the second quarter ended 30 June 2013.

EX-date 19/08/2013
Entitlement date 21/08/2013
Payment date  10/09/2013
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eps drops but dpu maintain. very nice! thumbup.gif
without FF and epf speculating activities, this is one of the least corrected reit in my profile. icon_rolleyes.gif
i'm seeing some bottom fishing in recent days even on those after ex date (cmmt). hmm.gif

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post Aug 2 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 2 2013, 02:13 PM)
Reits under presure as MGS yield rise

Highlighting CMMT & AXReit

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/insider-asi...ields-rise.html
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CIMB's first REIT paper that mentioned bond yield with a downgrade.
I'm guessing they may be writing a REIT sector downgrade according to this? We'll see. Just be cautious.
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:00 PM

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Low profile Hektar now gain a little heat because of its rather low valuation? net yield 7.2% vs peers' 5-5.6%, discount 26% for its less prime assets. cool2.gif

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post Aug 6 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 6 2013, 02:41 PM)
bought at 1.33 today ...... average down .....  sweat.gif
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This Capital Income fund sold another 3.7m shares after previous 9m shares.
It still has 166m to sell. laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 6 2013, 03:12 PM)
Reit should be stablise soon, today Australia RBA just cut interest rate.
No further news of Fed tapering, 10 years treasuries seems stablise at 2.6~2.7%
Also Rating downgrading issue is baked into the expectation.

So money nowhere to go... (again)
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Looking good. Continue seeing funds accumulating REITs since last week. Amanahraya Trustees most aggressive on CMMT and Sunreit. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 03:24 PM

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where is the bear? this is fly only. cool2.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 6 2013, 03:24 PM)
where is the bear? this is fly only.  cool2.gif
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oops! i posted on wrong thread on this one. I suppose to post on bursa thread. tongue.gif

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post Aug 6 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 6 2013, 04:06 PM)
not an issues for me ...... they pullout got their own intention i cannot resists them also me mircoorganism, btw if they pull out all slowly also good means i can buy more at a lower price ..... win win also ........ but at most 2 more rounds for me only .......  cry.gif  cry.gif
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2 more? 1.25, 1.15. set. biggrin.gif

sunreit should be getting much upside dpu FY15 for reopening sunway putra mall. I'm expecting double digit. And that mall has high rental revision potential for its current low ground. That area is not a heat spot, but it's actually so damn near to KL prime area with LRT station. As soon as that area able to "clean up nicely", it could be a stragetic spot of its own such as Midvalley area. I think lah. hmm.gif

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look at that sunreit sell queue, i bet our Capital Income fund is queuing to sell more. laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 6 2013, 05:11 PM)
Same here. Throw slowly. Water level low liao.

By the way, we shall have Sunreit financial result by today.
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give me dividend! i want cash!
this quarter good good, got both quarterly+half yearly dividend payers contribution. drool.gif
bite one tea spoon of sunreit today at 1.33 follow amanahraya trustee. net yield above 6% already. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kyle_kl @ Aug 6 2013, 05:48 PM)
Sunreit just announce the financial result... 2.02cents dividend  thumbup.gif
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dpu increase. nice! that's all i need to know. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Aug 7 2013, 10:15 AM)
another on sun reit by cimb.

they dropped their Target price already.
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As expected since i saw them started downgrading pavreit valuation according to bond yield hike. I bet cimb is the slowest IB who will continue to downgrade all REITs they cover accordingly. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 7 2013, 12:13 PM)
Axreit rebounded nicely + dividend in pocket. thumbup.gif
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This one is the most solid performer! Investors willing to buy and not to sell although low yield. Now we know who's the M-REIT king. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 7 2013, 12:56 PM)
Any major fall (like recently, fall almost 18% since peak) is definitely a chance to accumulate. Sentiment change but as long as the rental/occupancy is unchange, why panic.  nod.gif
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The panic is bond yield raising, not the dpu paying. If bond yield raise from 3% to 4%, that's a 33% hike, and REITs valuation will fall 33%. Unless, REIT able to increase dpu by 33% when the bond yield raise that 1%. hmm.gif

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post Aug 9 2013, 04:01 PM

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As in long term (3 years and above) perspective, which is on all stocks I bought in the first place, I think on REITs my concern would be bond yield vs the REIT's DPU increment in future years. If the REIT's DPU increment rate can stay (or exceed) the bond yield hike rate, then I'll keep, otherwise I will cut down holding on rally opportunities. And the "peak" bond yield, probably set at 4.5% for the next 10 years. Consider spread of 2-2.5% (small to midcap and large cap), REIT's yield of 6.5-7% should be quite save for the next 10 years. Therefore, if a REIT able to reach 6.5-7% yield in the next 2 years (I expect at least 2 years time for bond yield able to reach 4.5% if it happens) and good to at least maintain that DPU for the rest of the decade, then the REIT seems save to keep for my view.

Just sharing some thoughts. Please share yours. laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 12:46 PM

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Maybank has similar view with Cherroy, that is the interest rate should stay unchanged in 2014. For this, bond yield is expected to normalize back and it's already happening in recent weeks. Looks like REITs at current level should be stable. hmm.gif




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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 12 2013, 01:23 PM)
Local investment spinners are always positive and hyping the local scene.

Yet the foreign debt raters see otherwise of our ballooning yearly deficits
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In fact, Maybank sees it not that good, therefore expect interest rate to stay unchanged.
However, CIMB is always optimistic, here's their opinion of possible rate hike 25-50 bp. hmm.gif


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