For now i have minor acne and oilseeds. Currently using SAMPAR products but not very sure if the effect was good.
For your case, I don't think its worth to try something that may not be suitable...somemore so expensive.
Maybe you can visit Dr. Ko first because he can maybe give you some pills to help your problem. That's what some of my friends say.
I have a few friends who had horrible acne skin problem. After visitting Dr. Ko for like 4 times, her skin is baby smooth now.
She said that he gave some pills and cream to apply and that helped her a lot. But of course, he charge high too...around RM 200 per session with medication included
Not very sure if i want to go there yet

If using a few hundreds and for sure can solve the problem, i'm very willing to fork out the $. But the thing is, after various facials n using different products, the result is worst than b4. One of the DR recommend me the product, i didn't buy it. Coz i dunno it'll work or it'll make my face worst, so i dun dare to try. Your fren c Dr Ko and have so good results, i'm happy for her. But my problem ain't acne. I dunno the exact word to describe my issue, it's just sensitive, more pigmentation growing, milia seeds.

If go Dr Ko, maybe he'll recommend me to do laser, which i dun intend to do. I also hope got pills/creams to solve my issue now. I'll c a Dr soon, n let's see what this 4th Dr have to say. $ spent and got good results, we as customer surely will be very happy, but $ keep flowing out and the results is keep getting worst and worst, it'll just make us more depressed.

Agree with you. Perhaps you can go to Dr. Ko for consultation first and see what the dr says
Good luck dear!

"Lemon juice is a highly renowned home remedy for a number of skin pigmentation issues. This is largely due to the fact that it serves as a natural bleaching agent. Applying some lime juice over your face for about an hour before your bath will do wonders for your complexion. A regular application of Aloe Vera gel over the freckles should see a noticeable reduction in their prominence."

Read this somewhere on the net, hope it helps. Source from a skin expert.

If you use lemon juice it will make your skin sensitive and it may itch; so stay out of the sun. Learn to use an umbrella even for short distances. I believe your skin turned sensitive after the fruit acid treatment.

TS if you are interested I could send you my oatmeal soap. Oats supposedly could sooth problem skin. I suggest that you try bedak sejuk which is all natural and could control the excess oil. Drop all moisturizers for now; they are the cause of your oil seeds.

I'm using the heliocare sunscreen that you mentioned. This is water-based and it does not make my skin oily.

I feel your pain cos I know what it's like to have problem skin.

I actually used half a lemon and dilute it with 1litre of water. So far, my skin had improved within a week!
Only use it once a day
Got lesser breakouts though. Last time i actually used just lemon juice only without diluting it (i was dumb and thought it would fasten up the process) and my face peel and burn like crazy.

I very much believe that my face have turn into this thin/sensitive is caused by the fruit acid that SHE put onto my face WITHOUT explaining to me that she's gonna put acid onto my face. Feel like calling her and screaming towards that lady. Really an arrogant beautician. Typing about this lady really make me sakit hati. My face already dehydrated and she lagi put fruit acid onto a dry dehydrated skin, making it worst. After this case, i go and do too much facial in few weeks time also makes the matter worst.

I actually went n c another specialist 2 weeks ago, coz after using the gentle cleanser Cetaphil, my face really red+itchy. I told the DR what happened and all that, n the DR said 'Your face is not floor', meaning that i should't overdo/overwash/overfacial my face. He told me not use anything at all, not even sunblock. Gave me some spray and cream to apply on the face. N pills also, maybe anti-itchy pills guaa. The 1st time i used the spray, i spray it on my face, and within seconds, my face become so red and so itchy. I called the DR the next morning, he told me to stop use the spray.

So for this 2 weeks, i just took the pill every night and apply the cream on my face. Can see less dead skin on my face, but i think this cream (ubat) really strong, meaning that i apply on my whole face, the next day some small pimple really non-reddish and become like a mark d. Another mark on the face. It's like applying this cream, next day the acne becomes an acne mark d. Aiyohhh, not good lah with all this mark/scar on the face. My face not itchy d, n non-reddish d after taking the pill+cream. But those pigmentation keeps growing, n spreading.

Too many problem that i'm facing now, that makes me ignore other smaller problem such as milia seed. I can ignore milia seed problem for now, coz what really makes me scare is hyperpigmentation. Coz as everyone know, once the pigmentation appears d, it'll keep on becoming darker and spread. With my face so thin/sensitive now, anything trigger my face really can make the existing hyperpigmentation grow bigger n darker. I avoid the sun so much, really makes me so abnormal, but those pigmentation also grow 1 dot by 1 dot.

I'm going to see the same specialist again this few days, for follow-up after the 1st visit/consultation. If anyone have any solution, once n for all solution for hyperpigmentation, it would be great. No machine/laser, products or facials can guarantee the hyperpigmentation will disappear forever. Hyperpigmentation will spread/darker as time goes by. This is what makes me so worry. From the time i wake up till the time i sleep, i m worry about this problem. My weight have drop so much, i'm like a walking skeleton.

I don't go to the bank coz takut matahari. I don't go out weekend morning/afternoon to have b.fast/lunch with family coz takut matahari. I dun go to shopping coz no mood. This issue affect me so much, mentally n also physically. Previously i'm a happy go lucky happy girl, but this few months really change me. I read on many home remedy for this problem, but i can't simply follow the steps, coz my face already sensitive. DR also advise me dun use anything on my face now. Just wash my face with water.

Tinypumpkin, really thx for your kind advise n help. But for the time being, i'll not simply use anything for fear, really fear of more problem to my face. Hope u understand. BTW, what is bedak sejuk? Like Johnson&Johnson bedak, where ppl put onto neck? May i ask u is the Heliocare sunscreen good? The box stated suitable for oily skin, so for my dry dehydrated skin also suitable?

When i c the DR again this few days, i'll ask him how is my face now, n also ask for his advise on what products can/suitable to be applied on my face now. I'll also ask him regarding the hyperpigmentation problem on my face, how to lightened it. Seeing new pigmentation appears every few days, n existing pigmentation spread a bit by bit into groupie really makes me heart attack. Actually DR may recommend me some product or brand of cleanser or moisturiser to be apply on my face, but whether suits or not, i have to try it. I dun mind trying, just afraid the product backfired and cause more harm to my face n more things grow on my face.

I know damage have been done. My face can't be back like few months ago where no milia seed, n only 1 spot of pigmentation on my cheek last time. Now 2 side got milia seed, and at least 20 dot or spot of pigmentation on my face suddenly in this few months. Like i said , i can ignore the milia seed for now, coz the bigger problem for me is the hyperpigmentation. To make it disappeared, i think is hard. Hope there's something to lightened it.



Girls really will do anything for improvement of skin, right? Hehe. Thx for advise. I read about this b4, but dun think lemon can be applied now for my sensitive skin. I did read on many home remedy n one of the thing i try a month ago is putting yogurt on my face. The result is my rough skin is stil rough and a few tiny bumps appeared. I stop using the yogurt after that. I overdid many things on a short period of time. Trying different brand/product, using this mask/that mask. For the past 2 weeks, i've been washing my face just with water, taking Dr's pills and cream.

Can c the face got calm down, no itchy, no reddish. But still hyperpigmentation spready little by little. N new dot appear every few days. Scary ehhh. I'll c the DR again this few days, n hope he can help me more with my problem. I try be strong but sometimes u know, when new n new problem keeps attacking, n got no solution, it really makes me wanna hide in a dark room, sleep n sleep, n dun wanna think about the problem. But when i wake up, another new problem appears on d face, n stressed again. Sigh.

careyluv you should concentrate on strengthening your skin for now; let it recover before your treat your pigmentation problem. Treatments for pigmentation usually involves strong acid-based creams which is too harsh for your skin.

I find that Heliocare suits me cos not so oily. But if you do not go out you don't really need sunblock.

Bedak sejuk is not like those johnson & johnson type. Mine is homemade bedak which uses jasmine rice soaked in water for more than 3 months till the rice turns soft from fermentation. Fermented stuff has anti-bacterial qualities I believe. Of course the water is changed every day otherwise it stinks.

Bedak was very popular among the older generation. Ask your Mom; I'm sure she knows about bedak.

Hope your skin improves but be careful of chemicals that you apply onto your face.

Could it be caused by stress? But its great to know that it improved a little!
You should really tryTinyPumpkin's bedak
I used it too before and it was great!

Agree with you. Its much more natural
Thank you so much for your bedak last time dear

Hi, I chanced upon this thread about oil seed removal, and I'm a guy who didn't believe in facial. And my face had oil seeds, also on my eye lids. I didn't know what they were, just that they were ugly, and I was also thinking how to remove it? Whether to see a skin specialist, go for surgery, and so on?

But my wife forced me to visit her beautician, and on the first session itself, she removed those oil seeds from my face. I can't believe it was that simple. Just a needle, and gentle hands. But she did say that not many beauticians know how to remove oil seeds.

This is just my practical experience about oil seeds. The location is in Damansara Utama - per session I think is RM120. I don't really know, coz my wife paid for it. By appointment only, no walk ins.

If you want her contact, please PM me. Don't reply via this thread, coz I usually won't be back. You see how many posts I have, you know I'm an irregular.

Good luck ladies.

You're most welcome dear

Maybe you can try drink "LAMOR2"

Oh gawd, not another seller promoting this lamor drink. I've seen this everywhere, they will try to convince u that it can solve all your skin problems,dunno how true their 'claims' are.

If anyone wants to try a detoxifying and enzyme health supplement there are others like maqui berry and noni juice. I've tried both and am sticking to maqui berry since it tastes so much better.

Is lamor 2 really that great? Kinohimitsu collagen drink sounds way better though

U r very correct that I should focus on strengthening my skin now. Dr also told me not to do facial or over-do my face for now. But seeing all the hyperpigmentation spreading (the existing ones is darker and spreading slowly while new ones also appearing) makes me so worried. Strengthening my face by not applying anything? But for how long? I wanna try those La Roche Posay sunscreen but dunno suitable for my sensitive face or not. U r using heliocare sunscreen, do u think it's ok/effective on preventing/controlling hyperpigmentation? What do u think about heliocare oral, those pills, have u heard of it?

If i post this thread earlier and get this response earlier from u, i dun have to go thru the fruit acid from the stupid beautician. I asked her whether can remove a few oil seed or not, she said ok and then put fruit acid on my almost whole face. I looked in the mirror and ask those oil seed that I'm concerned about is still there, n then only she said those too near to the eye, can't do it. If can't do it, then don't do it lahh. Y said ok, and then put this acid to my whole face. I'm still so hurt with what she've done to my face.

The parts where she put the acid few months ago, now those dots is appearing one by one on my face's surface, becoming hyperpigmentation. I dun think I can let this issue go, i'll do something about it. Maybe I'll contact the beautician back, telling her not to cincai put acid on other's face without explaining to the customer 1st. So unprofessional.


Me too wanna start to take some supplements or collagen drinks, but once u start taking it, it's a long term investment. I've read many comments that collagen can't be absorbed just by drinking all this beauty drinks, and that no research have been conducted that collagen drink is 100% effective. I even ask the dermatologist last week whether collagen drink is ok, he said it's not proven to be effective.

But many girls said it works for them. So I think maybe collagen drinks do have its effect on some ppl. Many brands in the market such as Lamor, Kinohimitsu, Fancl, really dunno which one is best for ownself. Have to try only then will know which is the best. Besides beauty drink, have u all think about taking some supplements for skin health benefits? For example, heliocare oral or Astaxanthin for the so called sun protection benefits.

Hmmm i don't really trust collagen drinks though. They're expensive and only bring short term changes. Maybe if you take it, you might see changes on skin, but after stop taking it, it will be ineffective already. Its like taking drugs or something. Who knows later on there would be side effects?
I had drank Lennox collagen drink but only once, it doesn't interest me enough. The best thing you could do to take care of your face is proper cleansing. I had keep changing my routine again and again to find one that is suitable for me. I know how it feels dear..
Now i'm using nature republic's konjac sponge:D not to forget my diluted lemon juice Only used it for like 5 days and my mum says that my skin looks brighter and the black spots are hardly visible already. Its only a sponge and before that i was thinking "Oh funny, this sponge is gonna make changes to my face?" but i was amazed with the results. Never judge a book by its cover
I think it might be alright for you to use since it is suitable for all skin types and 100% natural since they're actually made of konnyaku (jelly). It would brighten up your pigmentation
You can continue with your normal, daily skincare reutine. The sponge you can use it after cleansing your face with face wash, and after that let your face air dry. You can later on put on your toner, moisturizer etc (anything that you apply after cleansing)
I bought extras for myself and if you're interested, you can purchase from me

This post has been edited by beblink: Nov 28 2012, 06:58 AM

Hi there,

I understand how u feel because i have the same problem too. Well, i dont trust beauticians anymore because their sole motives are to earn money. so I'd rather extract all the oil seeds by myself. some are easy to extract but some are harder. and one thing for sure is that, after extraction, scars exist. So, u can imagine that my face is covered with scars, although the surface is smooth.

im not only having oil seeds but mild acne/pimples too. Now acne and oil seeds are under control because im using Benzac 2.5% but it makes my skin very dry. cuz it helps to absorb all the excess oil. Now my problems are pigmentation and dryness. I don't dare to apply moisturisers on my face cuz i believe that it will lead to oiliness instead of hydration. Im frustrated.

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Added on November 28, 2012, 1:36 pmHi there, hyperpigmentation only arises when u have acne or oil seeds being extracted. once acne and oil seeds are under control, i mean no development of new acne and oil seeds, the existing hyperpigmentation will fade away as time goes by. It is true that sunlight exposure will lead to darkening of existing hyperpigmentation. But i personally don't use sun block due to oiliness that it brings. So, i always bring an umbrella with me wherever I go.

I have both mild acne and oil seeds, i always extract them. Therefore, it results in hyperpigmentation or the so called 'scar'. Although the surface of my face is smooth, the scars are dark in colour. I believe that the scar may take 2 to 3 months to disappear. It just a matter of time. So now, im using Benzac 2.5% to control the acne and oil seeds. and i've been using it for a week already. but the issue is dryness. It has absorbed all the oil from my face, resulted in peeling. but still, i hv to keep using it for controlling both acne and oil seeds.



This post has been edited by estherpang87: Nov 28 2012, 01:36 PM

Hello dear. My friend is having an exact same problem as yours and like you she has spent tons and tons on facial, products and even AHA and stuff like that.

I'm not too sure about oil seeds but pigmentation is a sure sign of inner health deterioration so your best bet is still repairing your health from inside out and stay away from any whitening products as these are the main culprits.

Because my old aged battle was with acne and pigmentation instead of oil seeds I can only tell you that mine was gone only after a strict revamp of diet and tons of birdnest and I mean those fresh harvested birdnest not commercially prepared ones. Meaning you get a bundle of feather and heaven knows what embedded white clump u soak it and spend hours trying to clean it before double boiling it with juz rock sugar. I was on skin specialist' medication and facial care for more than 5 years and those pills actually lose effect eventually and you keep having to go back on them.

Now with changing my diet and investing in herbal solutions my skin is well I'd say not too bad though occasional one or two huge acne will appear due to stressful work and I still ONLY use my skin specialist's facial wash and nothing else works! If he go bust I'm probably f*. So do try to keep away from doing any facial and if u really want to wait till your skin recover from the inside.

As for collagen drinks well I get those free but only a few really works like magic for skin and lennox is not one of them. Kino BB wif birdnest does tho so if you want try to speed up / boost repair with these but it only works to repair n not maintain unless you keep drinking la of coz. I took unig or something while I was in Taiwan and it was cheap and great. Too bad I can't find it here.

So good luck and feel free to pm me if you need any further advice.

P.s. I know u feel the urge to do something immediately for immediate recovery coz patience when it comes to appearance is not a virtue to most girls but trust me just concentrate on consuming good food n nutrition maybe Krill oil? I have not tried coz I'm too poor but I read good reviews and maybe u wanna do some hormone balancing drinks too. I was actually checking out if ppl tried Lamor2 when I saw this

hi all. no doubt products can help, well not everyone, in skin care. but when you already have the problem , cant expect to solve it by applying and consume product because that wont expel the pus/oil seed beneath your skin

yes the beautician will extract for you, but yes, not all are experienced and precise, they wont be pressing all for a few reasons, they worry that might leave scars, hurt you, you recover and never visit again, time issue or just dont know the right way to do it. some which did not do pore-opening steaming use acidic product to open the pore which i think we are treated like animals. some do steaming but after they finished one side of the face, the other side or part has already dried up.

my customers complained that they count on the beauticians to extract at the places they cant reach or see but then the beauticians are hopeless and they are tired of the beauticians hard-selling products and packages at their every visit.

diet and habit affects your skin, some products which enhance your digestion or enzyme-formation only works for solving constipation-prone individual's skin

for those interested, i do door-to-door extraction + shoulder massage @rm30 per normal /not-so serious face /back , male and female
first time extraction can be done with video-shooting for you to see how extraction can be done on your own in the future

oil thai massage / slimming massage(slightly painful and heaty) rm60 per hour

only with needle, extractor and steamer, and antiseptic cream/ointment / papaw lotion after extracting.

massage : relaxing aromatherapic oil +massage oil

pm me.thanks.

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Hey, I am not too sure what oilseeds are, but I used to have bad black head & whitehead problems, also often got acne because of oily skin, and and the oily skin caused large open pores especially on the upper cheeks next to the nose. I have been to a doctor, and what really helped me was a laser treatment, I think the doctor called it Spectra Q-Switch. This kind of laser does not cause scarring, but just kills germs and gets rid of dead skin cell build up. If you read about it online, they also call it laser polishing. It is not painful, feels like a little scratching on the skin and the doctor very quickly moves the laser all over the face. It takes about 10 minutes in total, I would say. Immediately after, the skin looks a little red, like its sensitive, and it feels hot, but it goes away quickly. I had to do this treatment about 5 times, but after that I really saw great improvement. I used to need to squeeze my blackheads on my nose at least once a week, but now I have no more blackheads. And pores also improved a lot. So many ppl told me that after the treatment my skin looks very smooth and 'perfect'. They always say they envy me my 'good skin'! Hahaha. I also had some pigmentation which lightened but didn't go away, and I did IPL to improve that.

A lot of ppl say they are very scared of doing lasers because it sounds very extreme and dangerous, but if you do research online you will see that there are actually so many people who have benefited and improved from laser treatments. I know of one colleague, she had a very bad birthmark on her upper arm, so she never wore any short sleeve dresses, we all thought she was old-fashioned, but suddenly one day she started to wear short sleeves. My other colleague, who is her good friend, told us that she finally solved her bad birthmark problem through laser. I cannot see anything there, so I am not sure if it is true or not, but it is amazing if it is! I only started to believe in lasers when I was studying in Australia because everybody there is crazy about doing lasers, so I tried it for my hair, and it is amazing, already at least 5-6 years, and still no hair! And really, no side effects. I think people are all frightened of trying lasers because they think it is something very experimental and unsafe, but the history of lasers is at least about 30 years old, and the technology is very sophisticated now. If you read singaporean skin forums they all do lasers, it is very common over there. So why not try to find out more about how laser treatments can be helpful to you too?