Fotile EEG75201

I"m thinking to buy this anyone use this pls comment pros and cons....pls advice

also comparing sugawa and vees all have energy saving but fotile never mention in brocher

if u using other brand which good pls recommend thanks

This post has been edited by CAPTAIN JJ: Sep 6 2012, 10:43 PM

if want electric hobs, get induction ones

Because no such thing as saving when use ceramic or hot plate. Is only induction are more efficient. If you cook frequent will have to pay more on electric bill.

I plan to use Ceramic hob for my dry kitchen. U can use any pots n pans with ceramic hob, like the Fotile.

For induction, only certain pots/pans can.

In terms of electric bills, both are the same.

thanks for replying but there pros and cons too prefer one induction and ceramic

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Added on August 26, 2012, 9:13 pm[quote=weikee,Aug 26 2012, 12:04 PM]
Because no such thing as saving when use ceramic or hot plate. Is only induction are more efficient. If you cook frequent will have to pay more on electric bill.


yes i think both induction and ceramic are the same in terms of bill but sugawa and vees insist theirs product are energy saving compared to other brand


This post has been edited by CAPTAIN JJ: Aug 26 2012, 09:13 PM

yeah according to salesperson certain expensive stainless steel pot can't be used at all in induction not all stainless steel can work ..

very leceh ler ceramic are best seller at the moment

anyone happy with their electric hob pls shared ur experience ...appreciate ur advice

In terms of watts maybe the same but if induction takes less time to cook your food then that means you will save on electricity. Don't trust those ppl like Vees that insist theirs uses less electricity.

Btw those non magnetic pots you can use induction heat mats to make them work.

This post has been edited by idoblu: Aug 26 2012, 10:44 PM

Please check the fact right. Both are not the same, induction are much more efficient. It take less time to heat up the pan. It also are more efficient. Ceramic need time to heat up, by the time it heat up, the oil on the pan already heat up on induction.

I've purchased Sugawa cooking hob and started using it a few months ago after the gas ran out. I have both the inductive and ceramic ones, but at this moment I'm using the single ceramic one (the promotion at that time was purchase of the dual hob and u get a single ceramic hob, a slow cooker and a 9 piece cooking set for fee). So far no complains using it and I think it's pretty energy saving. Set at 1200W, can boil a kettle of water within 15 minutes. Comes to about 6.54 cents to boil a kettle of water (1.2kwh*0.218cents/4).

Thank you for your clarification.

Vees and FOTILE's 1 electricity consumption is about the same, no such thing as save electricity. It does save electricity as the hob will automatically turn off when it reach certain temperature than turn back on by itself when temperature drop at cut in point. This is more to safety feature not energy saving which both FOTILE and Vees also have.

Induction is usually more energy saving, if u look at the catalogs, inductions usually require 13-15amp only. While ceramic hob 20amp.

If you are using gas and wanna switch to induction, you will notice that most of your pots/wok cant b used on induction, so you will need to get new one's. This is why most people hate to get induction and demand for it is low, so FOTILE discontinued their induction hob and replace with ceramic. However, induction is more efficient and energy saving.

Even use ceramic, wok can't be use too.

Gas is still the most economical way to cook.

This post has been edited by weikee: Aug 27 2012, 09:14 AM

hi michaellks good to hear you are happy with your purchase . Actually i seriously consider buying sugawa too but afraid regret if

not good but now listen to ur comment makes me more confidence with my decision

oh yeah where u buy ur sugawa have so many freebies

hope i can get good deal this coming pwtc fair

Any disadvantages in using gas to cook?

The advertiser say can blow up the house if use gas and not attend wo. And can be poison also.

Come to think about it the only explosion caused by gas I read in the news is empire shopping center gas pipe explosion. Nothing about home gas tank.

Home gas tank explosion I remember got one case at wangsa maju long time ago. The latest case was that Hampshire condo where the kwailoh succumbed to his injuries but that one is piped gas.

Cheapest is gas. The only thing I find disadvantage is that it runs out in the middle of your cooking. It's inevitable.

electric hob is the way forward for modern kitchen . Safety , convenient, friendly and clean environment is consumer seeking now.

not to mention very good looking too my bad i just like beautiful thing haha

Clean environment, that maybe your perception, the electric you use maybe generate from coals, hydro, even gas. The more you use the hob the more natural resources you burn. It end up the same as gas or even worse.

This post has been edited by weikee: Aug 28 2012, 08:13 PM

lols clean environment i meant is less smoke compared using gas . cheers!!

If you cook more you enjoy paying higher bills for electrical hob.

So many brands out there. Don't know how to choose.
Senz, Sugawa, Vees, iTazzo, Vigico, Fujihome, etc..
I saw Fujihome got promotion ceramic cooker + hood < RM3K.
Any comment or feedback?

It cost more for your meal.

There are people who look only on beauty not about economical, reliable and taste ;-)

OMG, just saw your reply to my post via the "Replies to me (BETA)".

I was skeptical initially when my gf was introduced to Sugawa by the sales guy. So I ask her to go listen while I go to other booths. It was at a Home Fair in MITC, Malacca. But after using it for some time now, I would say still alright, most of the time use it to do boil water, cook instant noodles, Campbell soup and did try some frying with it.

according to my fren his fujihome ceramic/induction hob not so good very slow hot and have non removable stain maybe his is

old model so no comments. I just bought sugawa but not try yet due to my house still under renovation will give comment later

after using it but my mother in law is using sugawa almost 6month and very happy with it till now

after some surveys my personal preference is sugawa / vees / kitchmate

anyone happy with ur hob pls shared here , sharing is caring

How much does sugawa cost?

i still prefer using gas.....

So far cheapest I found Senz, RM1899, no free gift, 1 year warranty.

Don't know how reliable these things are. Gas cookers can last for 20 years or more, and people usually throw them away not because they fail, but because they look dirty after years of use.

Anything that need electric or electronic component are subject to lightning, and heat. That will shorten the life span. Try ask if the warranty include lightning?

This post has been edited by weikee: Oct 23 2012, 03:31 PM

I am using Kenwood single electrtical hod for more than a year now. My advice is - don't buy. It emits strange sounds after being on for a while...I don't know how to describe the sounds...like humming sound that doesn't sound 'normal' to me. So scare it will explode or something.

how much u spend to buy all those?

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Added on October 31, 2012, 4:13 pmhow much she get the hob? free gift?

This post has been edited by twins_hy: Oct 31 2012, 04:13 PM

i bought sugawa for rm3k plus free gift

I bought it at RM 2,698.

Any comment on this 2 vitroceramic hob ? (Price below RM2K)

LEBENSSTIL LKRH-7102P (very new to this brand)
http://www.kollektion.com.my/?p=1754

FORTILE EEG75201
http://www.fotile.com.my/prdtshowcase-Prod...c-eeg75201.html

Question about Electric / Vitroceramic Hob....
Got many types in the market. How to differentiate which one is better?
Like Lebenstill brand, got 13Amp & 15Amp, then Fotile brand require 20Amp... confusing.
Typical power outlet is only 13Amp... so, how to use those higher current one?

Higher amps mean higher wattage. Mean heat up faster and stronger heat or can concurrent switch one two or more 'burner". A 13Amps hob will not be able to supply concurrent 4kw heat.

Thanks for the reply. So, a typical 13Amp socket will unable to use the hob that require higher amps one then?
That leave me lesser choice
There's actually a 20Amp socket, but that located at the top, I assume that's for the hood.

20amps socket, is it 4.5 mm cables? If not, you risk getting the wire melt.

This post has been edited by weikee: Dec 1 2012, 09:51 PM

To change a 13Amp socket to 15Amp, is it as simple as just changing the wall socket?

Hood don't use that high amp. A normal hood use about not more than 300w of power. That is 1.25A only.

Why you want to get that high energy usage hob? That look not saving from the cost of using, the meal and paying for the hob. Is it better to use gas hob if you want high KW?

Not really want high. Just want to know the option I have. Very seldom cook, and of course I prefer use lower electricity one.

13 to 15 is simple if cables are not loop and 2.5 mm, 20 amps will need minimal 4.5mm cables

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Added on December 1, 2012, 9:53 pmAny electrical hob will use large consumption of electricity. Induction so far is still the must efficient for electrical hob.

Gas still the best.

This post has been edited by weikee: Dec 2 2012, 07:22 AM

Get the induction type instead the radiant or any indirect contact type. Any induction hob below 3kw can be use on normal 13A socket.

3kw is enough for cooking. Unless you cook for 4 or more people. My wife is use around 1.2kw induction for cooking only.

Any high KW hob can cost high electricity usage. Electric is more expensive than gas.

Which is a good induction type cooker? Those RM200+ one like Philips, Faber, Kenwood brand?
I am wondering why the radiant cooker(single type) price can 5x more expensive than induction one like Vees, Senz, etc...

Get those famous brand. eg, panasonic. Not famous brand have short lifespan.

Those vees or senz are mlm way of selling. Most of your money is pay the mlm level and not the cooker.

which branch is good?

Still the conventional type better. U can enjoy cooking and taste.

Apart from Senz, got any other brand that have induction + ceramic cooker? I am convinced to use induction, but my other half bising want ceramic... adui.

I notice Philips brand single induction cooker hob at about rm300 only, what difference if to spend ~rm2k for those electric duo hob? Can anyone help to explain? I know the single hob is not built-in, that's all.
Philips brand shd not be that bad cap palang right?

This post has been edited by Tysontang: Jan 4 2014, 11:50 PM

A single ceramic or induction table top costs only RM100 a piece during offer, normally RM200. All built-in double cooker type cost RM2K. Just wonder why cost 5x more. The only noticeable different is the temper glass. A 3x2 feet 10mm temper glass costs only RM120 at most.

And if you look at Alibaba, a double cooker like sugawa and vees types only USD80 from manufacturer or R250 See pic. Look like when we buy instantly become idiots.

A single burner is only USD21 or RM67 from china manufacturer. see pic. I have a hyundai like the pic for RM99, and a double burner from sugawa costs more than RM200k plus all the cheapo gifts my wife bought.



http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/ceramic-cooker.html

This post has been edited by stevie8: Jan 5 2014, 12:55 AM

Which is good?

To make sure your electric cooker last one of it is do not switch off the main power immediately after cooking when it is still hot. Let the fan run to cool it both ceramic and induction.

Also, since it is electronic it is subject to power surge. Connect to a surge or lightning protector. But if you buy from china why care? it is cheap and just throw away and buy another one with newer technology comes with more energy efficient and lasting.

Not 200k plus la. 2k plus is it?

typo error. 2k plus it is. Unlike gas burner that last till you want to throw away. This thing dont know how long it is going to last.

i heard charcoal and wood file is better taste than gas, you plan to switch back ?

Trust me gas is better, i did consider on electric hobs as well but after checking with some of my friends who are using these type of hobs, i took gas instead. You will need to take special care of the glass as it will get scratches easily and sauce/food that drip on the glass while cooking tend to get burnt and hard to remove.

Anymore Pros & Cons on Sugawa Smart Cooker? Saw the demonstration just now and thought I should do some research first before laying my hands down.
The current promo is 2.8k with free gifts.

Overprice product. Can start read from the first page.

Lol I taste sarcasm.

But actually, just for arguments sake, charcoal and wood does give a more distinctive flavour to food. Just like how most forumers claim gas will give you enough 'wok Hei' which is difficult to achieve with induction/ceramic burners. Anyone with experience with cooking, can pls share your char kuey teow experience using ceramic burners?

Well samething i guess cooking in claypots vs steel pots. Former has better taste.

Clay pots have let over food taste and burned taste of course taste special

I don't feel it much different. Accept need to achieve some burning rice taste for certain food.

I believe last time ppl using claypots is because it able to maintain the heat after cook. Keep longer hr from cool weather.

And claypots is the oldest cooking ware for ppl when steel pot not yet invent.

Claypot is not efficienct for cooking. It need more energy and time to penetrate inside. I avoid using claypot.

It does taste different, and have different texture too.

High power Gas cooking will always give better "Wok Hei", and actually can cook vegi faster and look greener and won't turn yellowish. If you cook "YauMak", or "SangChoy" before you know it turn yellow very easy.

This post has been edited by weikee: Apr 1 2014, 09:21 AM

I know it have different taste. It just me don't feel the taste.

But I can taste the hokkien mee if cook with the charcoal. Compare the gas.

I hate those vegi cook till turn yellowish. Of course to achieve greener, high heat with shorter time.

But I prefer just boil it in short time. I know mostly Chinese ppl don't like too fresh the taste of vegi. Taste like eating grass.

Strong fire actually give some green taste and retain the color too. Cooking is in my family for so long I have a trained very fussy tongue. The simplest food is the hardest to cook, I normally judge/test the cook with the fried rice they cook, is a simple dish hard to screw up, but is also a simple dish not easy to be master. High power + skill will create good fired rice.

Every things come with pros and cons......
CHARCOAL = BLACK, DIRTY OLD WAY
GAS = INHALING FUME WHILE COOKING
INDUCTION = STAINLESS STILL ONLY + RADIATION
CERAMIC = HIGH ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION......

SO..... EAT RAW THE BEST.... HAHA

EAT RAW stomach-ache

I have an induction cooker 2 hob with power 1kW and 1.8kW each.
I used for few times and a big capacitor inside is burn (I believe is the EMI module).
I'm using 13A normal wall socket, may i know is this suitable?
The power should be enough for 240V/13A right?
i wonder is due to poor EMI module or it actually needs high current?
based on the user manual, error code E00 shows the current shouldn't over >15A.
Can any expert here to give advice and where can i get a better EMI module to replace the burn module.

2.8kw is between the 13a socket spec. But if you have long day cook, get a bigger capacity is more safer.

As long as your MCB didn't trip and your plug inside 13A fuse didn't burn, it is enough.

The problem look like more to the unit component quality. If you know that is a EMI thinky, guess you know where to find. Pasar road have choice. Look for TDK or tokin if you want better 1.

Thanks for your reply.
Sorry for some mistake, i think tats should be RCL filter where the board consist of 2 big coil induction, each in serial with each power pin and a resistor and cap parallel with two power pin and the big cap is burn.


How should i fix it? changing a cap would help? or changing the whole filter module? any recommendation place to look for it?

This post has been edited by lee1234: May 24 2015, 04:21 PM

Sorry, I never open it before. So no idea what it look like inside. If you know the cap value, than replace it.

The best is get back to the brand service center.

Too bad the brand service center is closed @@ i cant find the cap value from the PCB board. Anyhow, thanks for your reply comment

anyone used Livinox hoob and hob before?

Hi Zheil
Fotile hob need only 20amp ? What is the brochure refering to when it says 25Amp?

You can use the 20amp switch similar to air-con but wire make sure can take the load of 4000 watt. for the 25amp i think they recommend it for EEG 75201 (4500 watt)

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Apr 25 2016, 03:51 PM

Start curious about electric usage cooker, and come into this threat.

my eye is like @_@ while found out tat the price from Alibaba at average USD 20 but those duo cooker is selling at RM2k average nowadays.

Everyone still using electric usage cooker or back to conventional already?

My advise is, don't go for those tepi jalan punya brand like Sugawa. Those companies will try to sell their products using any sort of method and gimmick, after products are sold, once broken, u will know how hard to ask their technician to come and service, and I wonder if they only have 1 technician for the whole country versus a bunch of sales persons.
Just go for branded and reputable products.

Is senz or kitch hobs are good? Aiming 2 in 1. Have both ceramic and induction.

go for better name brands like fotile, teka, bosch, panasonic, electrolux, etc
go for all induction, why still need ceramic? cant let go your clay pots?

all above brands out of my budget. my budget around 2K. how about elba ?

That's the pain. Husband knows that 2 single cooker costs each at USD20++ only but the wife still likes to have 2k duo cooker in kitchen,

This post has been edited by easywin3: Mar 7 2018, 10:30 PM

I'm using senz induction + ceramic for about 6 months.

I used one of my stainless steel pot on the induction side, an error message appeared. I called the dealer and they got a technician to call me. As it was 3 days before CNY, I did not expect immediate response. However, the technician told me that they are not available till mid-March (not sure if they are closed or fully booked). To me, this is unacceptable. There should be a reasonable turnaround time frame, CNY or not. He asked me to unplugged and wait for a couple of minutes before trying again. The same thing happened.

I did some trouble-shooting myself and noticed that some stainless steel pots cannot be used. I use a 'normal' stainless steel pot and it functioned normally, but when I use another set of pots (I bought it as a set of 3), it cannot be used. Under my pot it states that it's a 5-ply capsule bottom (not sure what it means) but it also indicated 'Gas Electric-Vitros'. I used a magnet and it stuck to the bottom too. So I'm not sure what is the exact problem.

My main peeve is the after-sales technical support. With this kind of support, I would not purchase senz again. Not sure about other brands tho, are they all the same? I'm based in JB.

i think the pot is not suitable for induction, hence error msg. For induction, either pot does not have water or oil, or not suitable, then will have error msg.

Btw, i dont sell senz, so cant help u. U can try to check the error msg in the user manual, it will that u what is the error about

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Mar 8 2018, 02:24 PM

Yes, the error message means that the pot is not suitable. I only wonder why coz it's stainless steel. So for those who want to switch to induction, need to make sure their pots works, even if they're stainless steel, coz mine didn't work. I was told that as long as the magnet sticks to the bottom of the pot, then it will work on induction. I tested all my pots (even non-stainless steel pot) and all worked on the magnet test. But not sure why the 3 stainless pot can't use on induction. hmmmmm....

Usually those pot,pan etc that can use on the induction have the induction label on it.

Some pot have smaller diameter base contact which will not activate the induction. I have this SS mug which diameter is about 70mm and have a hard time to use. I need to place off the center and find the spot that can induction detect. Otherwise error code comeout.

Not all stainless steel created same. Different grade of SS got different composition of metal and not all SS can use for induction cooker. Somehow it might related to the design of the base of pot. For safe the best just buy the one with induction label.