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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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shin6619
post Oct 29 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Oct 29 2012, 06:31 PM)
bro.. hard already... unless u can wean off going full natals set...  for example the helm don't give much dps right.. ring also probably won't give much
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I can't drop legacy because I heavy dis user- gloom and smoke. Old Nata helm with 3 cc cost 60m in ah...T-T


Added on October 29, 2012, 7:38 pmIf I sell my all legacy Nata in ah, I think more than 250m. Oledi check in Ah.

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post Oct 29 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 29 2012, 07:36 PM)
I can't drop legacy because I heavy dis user- gloom and smoke. Old Nata helm with 3 cc cost 60m in ah...T-T


Added on October 29, 2012, 7:38 pmIf I sell my all legacy Nata in ah, I think more than 250m. Oledi check in Ah.
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Yeah, my legacy helm has crit on it too but i'm not selling the entire set for sentimental reasons.

Anyway, if u depend on legacy NAT for disc regen, u can try out NS passive. I struggle initially also cuz of the disc regen problem but now i'm doing fine with the NS passive. So that's an alternative if u ever want to ditch legacy.
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post Oct 29 2012, 07:57 PM

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"e=shin6619,Oct 29 2012, 07:36 PM]I can't drop legacy because I heavy dis user- gloom and smoke. Old Nata helm with 3 cc cost 60m in ah...T-T


Added on October 29, 2012, 7:38 pmIf I sell my all legacy Nata in ah, I think more than 250m. Oledi check in Ah.
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try lo... remove 1 natal item and depend on nightstalker and maybe multishot suppression fire and maybe for standby have preparation.. takes a while getting used to but you have much more options for gear then!"

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post Oct 30 2012, 08:44 AM

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Now 140k dps without ss. Still full legacy Nata set. But my profile haven't update.. My target is 150k dps.
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post Oct 30 2012, 08:58 AM

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post Oct 30 2012, 08:59 AM

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what did u do to get that DPS increase?
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post Oct 30 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 30 2012, 08:59 AM)
what did u do to get that DPS increase?
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Old amulet only avg dmg, cd and ar change to almost same avg dmg, cd and 5% cc but no AR.

5% cc can increase few k dps here..

Next target is Nata helm with 3% cc, quiver with 20% ias and 10% cc and find a better ring to replace my current hellfire ring. I think may break 150k dps a bit with full legacy Nata. It's impossible to reach 200k dps if didnt drop legacy.
Legacy = low stats..

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post Oct 30 2012, 09:56 AM

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Almost complete

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Next upgrade: 1.2K DPS manticore with 2 sockets and a bracers with 6.0 cc, VIT, DEX and AR but unless i find smth godly or get some donations from Lau Pan, i'm stuck here.

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post Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM

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wow race to TOP DPS ?
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post Oct 30 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Oct 30 2012, 10:39 AM)
wow race to TOP DPS ?
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No way i'll win. I just love DPS above everything that's it.
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post Oct 30 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 30 2012, 09:56 AM)
Almost complete

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Next upgrade: 1.2K DPS manticore with 2 sockets and a bracers with 6.0 cc, VIT, DEX and AR but unless i find smth godly or get some donations from Lau Pan, i'm stuck here.
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Y ur dps so high? My cd and cc almost same as u.. The different is my dex only 20xx, ias is 1.71 some thing like tat. Maybe the dex and attack speed make the different.. No$$$$$$
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 30 2012, 10:45 AM)
Y ur dps so high? My cd and cc almost same as u.. The different is my dex only 20xx, ias is 1.71 some thing like tat. Maybe the dex and attack speed make the different.. No$$$$$$
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U will be surprise how much 10 dex give u in damage. But as u go higher, the return diminishes. Besides 700 dex difference is huge man coupled with the ias difference.

What are your passives? Cd? Cc?
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:48 AM

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700 dex (nearly 800) is pretty huge difference..
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:24 PM

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Average each Demon hunter Level 60

1 DEX = 44.2 damage

800 x 44.2 = 32k?
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Oct 30 2012, 12:24 PM)
Average each Demon hunter Level 60

1 DEX = 44.2 damage

800 x 44.2 = 32k?
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Nope, each person's DEX has diff value. For me, 1 DEX is approximately 70ish DMG.
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:32 PM

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700/2000*100=35%

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post Oct 30 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 30 2012, 10:56 AM)
U will be surprise how much 10 dex give u in damage. But as u go higher, the return diminishes. Besides 700 dex difference is huge man coupled with the ias difference.

What are your passives? Cd? Cc?
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Steady aim, Achery, Tactical
Cd 390%
Cc 50.5%
Dex 2095
Ias 1.71


Added on October 30, 2012, 1:15 pmWhere I find 700 dex ??? All ppl knew legacy Nata is low dex... I give up, just wan to target 150k dps..

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post Oct 30 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 30 2012, 09:08 AM)
Old amulet only avg dmg, cd and ar change to almost same avg dmg, cd and 5% cc but no AR.

5% cc can increase few k dps here..

Next target is Nata helm with 3% cc, quiver with 20% ias and 10% cc and find a better ring to replace my current hellfire ring. I think may break 150k dps a bit with full legacy Nata. It's impossible to reach 200k dps if didnt drop legacy.
Legacy =  low stats..
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Aren't u a grenade user? And i hate to break this to you but if i'm not mistaken, u said u're a heavy gloom user that face tank mobs. My understanding here is that you have minimum movement once you start hitting. Am i right? Well, if that's the case, steady aim is of no use to u.

If you have say 44 CC and higher, you really really should just ditch legacy and go for the new NAT. Get the chest/boots or boots/ring. The later is going to be more expensive but you can use Tyrael's might which just rocks imo. Let say u go for chest/boots, u still have the 7% cc and u can make yourself even more tanky with a mempo. Aleune bought one very nice mempo for 33.2 mil.

So, the legacy ring goes and a new ring will EASILY get u 15k DPS extra. The mempo is going to get you 10K (my guess).By doing so, u're easily in the 170k DPS region. The NEW NAT chest will give u easily 7 additional discpline.

With this, nightstalker is just going to make your DH even better.

The downside is, when u make the switch you will struggle initially cuz u're so used to spamming gloom like how i did in the past. But, once u figure out how to manage your discipline, u're going to add an extra dimension to your play and u'll laugh at legacy users. =)

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post Oct 30 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 30 2012, 01:17 PM)
Aren't u a grenade user? And i hate to break this to you but if i'm not mistaken, u said u're a heavy gloom user that face tank mobs. My understanding here is that you have minimum movement once you start hitting. Am i right? Well, if that's the case, steady aim is of no use to u.

If you have say 44 CC and higher, you really really should just ditch legacy and go for the new NAT. Get the chest/boots or boots/ring. The later is going to be more expensive but you can use Tyrael's might which just rocks imo. Let say u go for chest/boots, u still have the 7% cc and u can make yourself even more tanky with a mempo. Aleune bought one very nice mempo for 33.2 mil.

So, the legacy ring goes and a new ring will EASILY get u 15k DPS extra. The mempo is going to get you 10K (my guess).By doing so, u're easily in the 170k DPS region. The NEW NAT chest will give u easily 7 additional discpline.

With this, nightstalker is just going to make your DH even better.

The downside is, when u make the switch you will struggle initially cuz u're so used to spamming gloom like how i did in the past. But, once u figure out how to manage your discipline, u're going to add an extra dimension to your play and u'll laugh at legacy users. =)
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I no using grenade oledi, now focus bola shot. I knew what problem I face... I will try to test it. Thanks for suggestion. Bro.

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 30 2012, 01:22 PM)
I no using grenade oledi, now focus bola shot. I knew what problem I face... I will try to test it. Thanks for suggestion. Bro.
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Shin, if you get so used to tank, IMO, you should stick to it.
Being tanker is your strongest point.

Make use of your tanker. You don't need to run/kite.
Spam gloom as usual, combo it with Sentry/Guardian Turret if you want (since you drop grenade & life recovery is not as fast. However, Gloom + high damage will restore your HP in a second).
Launch Marked for Death/Reaper + spike trap + Bola (try to use Imminent Doom) and you should be able to see 300-500K of damage on your screen.

With such damage + a tanker, you should be able to do MP7 with ease.

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