i wonder where this outsource thing u all heard from.......

so....sukhoi saying it....u listen it.....

any source to prove it????

my point.......

we don't have official source supporting it....that's all....

GI-NG.....welcome....
wonder u know which scope u r in yet....
but anyway....still u ll see us......
on the same wing ma....

this dino is not that Deno..... but still somewhere close to him.....hahaha.....

already a lot MNC either outsource a whole bunch of their IT dept, or outsource part of it...there is nothing new on this...it is the culture in malaysia that drive ppl wanna join in or not....some ppl tend to worry....for nothing....
to me....Shell or vendor....as long as the environment still the same....doesn't matter much to me....

this 1 ma......i dunno....

no worry.....jz join us....u ll hav fun....

true true....good environment produce happy worker...then great performance....

soon u will clear...

not too difficult to know them rite.....btw....u sort out who m i dy???

why?? what's ur intention here...

u miss it.....read back man...

dude...there isn't jz 1 company in this world....jz move on urself.....anyway...if u still wish to join in after a year...feel free to try and good luck for that ahead....

mana u.....show urself infadel....hahahaha.....my team is right after entering the gate 1.....hehehee.....

this dino....use dino at everywhere online....but not in real life....
huge dif in the real life....hahaha.....hint.....still close to that deno's seat...
another hint......not same team as deno....

This post has been edited by dinozilla: Mar 21 2007, 12:28 AM

quite close...quite close...

hahaha....
hard to say de....
the scope will be more of definition term than group term...
u ll need to see the chart to understand (P&C applied?)
anyway.....this outsource topic kinda OOT here......

this is just like.....

Proton is making car.....

does it makes it own aircond....
no....sub to other......
samething here wat.....
Shell main business is O&G
IT....not core stuff.....if some1 else can handle well with Q
y not.....

haha....this is funny man.....guess wat...
u r fed up wit user
while i m crack with the 2nd level support.....
they jz simply do their work(i would say not up to par)
end up i hav to do the work(which should done by them earlier)
from my point, 2nd lvl sup in SITI is not up to par (for certain region)
a little bit of like....wasted resource from shell for hiring them...
jz my 2c......they should have been able to do more well.....
they jz really disappointing in certain incidents.....

nope....
2nd level support???? IMG????
if u r....lets pray i wont "Bang" with you someday....
i m not sure if helpdesk or img is trained or jz follow the guidebook
a lot of them jz don make use of common sense....
and some...even pretend they know a lot technical than u...
even they should be able to know that u r from a engineering team...
yday i made call/email to helpdesk/support
and got myself some of the freakiest answer ever heard....
i couldn't continue the call then.....jz tell him its 6pm and i wanna leave...follow up next week....

to be honest....some should understand the dif between a staff and a contractor....
staff is some1 considered as employee for the corporate....and they must be treated as good as the labour law...if not better....

contractor is in term, should be some1 hired temporary...with already required skill set...no further...

of coz this definition is exactly right in western, but in eastern...not all can accept such an idea...that's why there is ppl who ignoring...

don ask Shell y hire u as contractor....instead...ask urself wat core u hav that worth Shell to hire u as employee....
its the fact...they r employer...they decide wat kind of ppl they want....
if u do not hav the skill/attitude they ok wit, y would they get u in....
n there will be no point for SRD to be exists....

as in shell, u should be feel more better....as other than the benefits/opportunity, they treat u the same as other staff in term of team, event, outing
not like other place where contractor is not welcome for any company dinner...
coz they r not staff.....

good luck to u littleway.....
u r from???? Client/IMG?
PM better.....

dude.....not this year la.....

admin>>> sys admin? net admin? manager?

nothing of defer la....
its the current schedule....

last time everyone deferred becoz microsoft deferred....remember?

for project and planning stuff...y would a MNC or such a mega corporation gonna play play wit the kind of staff they gonna hire....

dude....the offer to vendor and condition in it haven finalise yet....u really cant sure of what could happen yet.....who knows u might still can keep ur shell card....

this is jz valid for SITI staff....and its rips off from 2009 onwards....

currently the timeline for outsource transition is somewhere next year....not sure if gonna change....
bad news for u is....there is rule of minimum time frame to be meet before a TPC can be converted to staff...HR rulez!!!! go through SRD is the best way u could hav...

its jz a corporate benefits for staff.....for dif company of coz dif sort of benefits....
jz like if u HP staff...buy HP product cheaper....see?