Job Group....
Wat i heard of is that there is some new defined engineer job group....
which is classified higher than existing engineer JG...
e.g. normal JG7, the new defined 1 JG6....etc...
but of coz all this is P&C, u won knw who is regular engineer in JG6 la...
unless they personally leak it out 1.....
so he himself who make P&C not P&C....lol....

wat he mean is...
this is the real world.....
as Thomas Friedman said....a flat world.....
world is full of competition....u hav to get expose more to build up urself....
not sitting there, doing a same lame job forever til ur butt full of spidey web....
y shell outsource its IT?? not good performing???
no....Shell is competing its own IT infra wit top 25% of the IT companies....they fight to be better...if not the good one....
but still outsource....why? competition....
to hav their IT infra to keep up with pace....they probably think that this is not their core, hence it is much difficult for them to keep pace...
rather, handing over to an IT company which is capable, it can focus more on its core business, and let the IT co take care of the IT stuffs....
is it not secure after outsource??? of coz....if u r a lame lazy pig....
which company want to keep a staff who jz know how to sit for years, doing same old thing, no improvement in efficiency, skills, etc
not jz Shell, every MNC is transforming the way they play the game.....outsourcing, retrenchment, its happening everywhere.....
u don feel it much....not bcoz they r not around....is bcoz u r in a country that still talk a lot about protective policies....

in terms of learning chance and exposure, Shell does has its advantage
i m not sure yet too who is the vendor would be, but I believe Shell don hand over staff to a place where learning is not encouraged....
the only fact that never change is the world is changing everyday.....
if u wanna learn like our government, not changing the mindset, then u ll b weak like a sitting duck then...
no job is secure forever, so better stop dreaming...and push urself up for challenge....

dats y.....we r still not certain lo...until we knw who is the vendor...hahaha

no idea man....but....
aren't we all having the same 2yr probation at the vendor side???

hahah.....this looks obvious man.....
anyway....all still rumour la....afterall nothing is finalised yet....so who knows.....thing could change last minute....

i oso heard some say Horse Power..

ya lo......
if u ask me.....
i would even say....
may b shell think there is too many "bug" sitting inside its "PC"
so it decide to let the pro handle it....help it clean it up to perform better....
hehehe...
so sure keep good part....and throw lousy part la...right

alright pal....not sure this info is available out there...
but the whole infra is actually break into module and dif module go to dif vendor.....
to date, all module jz down select to last two vendors.....
so u cant tell yet if HP got it all.....
but of coz substantial of the infra staff will be go out there....
so if u go interview....and the interviewer tell u dat u won get outsourced...
think of wat position u getting 1st....then think whether u should trust him/her then....

i had recently heard from my fren who her fren jz interviewed....hmm....a support job....
and he was told he will not outsourced.....hehe....well...how true is that....insider knows all....

there is always many versions until everything get settled....
by end of year u ll know....hehehe.....
but for desktop...we r quite certain where probably we will be dy.....sigh...

finally.....ISP vendor is announced...hahaha...

do u think it is ok to uncover here?

End User Computing : EDS
Hosting & Storage : T-Systems
Managed Network Service : AT&T

Desktop is under EUC, so is going EDS too...

but we jz think that they might hand all those HW over to EDS to manage, guess so.....
so many HW out there....u cant jz let them switch all HW as they like.....although we heard that EDS is using Dell service currently...its a huge burdern to do so...

my guess....
like the hongkong's quote... continue dance, continue ride, continue buy stock....
until transists to the vendor....all thing still same....
i guess onli during the full run transition period...new staff will directly go to vendor la.....
otherwise...u ll first in as shell staff...then move over...
but they might freeze the position oso...until all process completed....unless there is an urgency la....

until they announce....not really sure how it will work on 1 la....
they themselves might not clear oso....as such a complicated process is rarely happen....
if u compare outsource IMG to Wipro....its 1 to 1.....
now its split to 3, and giv to 3.....we r oso doubting how 3 collaborate with the rest and shell yet....wonder how they gonna work out on this....

u wont know if u still hav those when u move to EDS lo....

pray ah....nono....
i want promotion there....wohohooho.....
jz act fun....

if u can....work well then.....

hygiene???
unless shell putting more effort to venture in bio-energy....hardly imagine they hire bio graduate for....shed some light pls....

i don think they taking IT ppl now dy....
except Business IT rep/focal
which most likely need knowledge and exp on both IT and the related business unit
IT is on its way to complete outsource transition in 2 months time....
which 1 u wanna join??? EDS? AT&T? T-System?

u cant blame totally on Windows itself....
those guys whom plan for the image content play their major part too...
this image is getting more and more overloaded...
i only see the standard desktop(with P4) runs smooth when add to 3GB RAM...
still....jz ok...