Dear All,

I have noticed that at HongBeeLand.com , AnGGun 3 is now opened for registration, so as a vivid supporter of the Anggun series by Hongbeeland, I thought about creating this thread as a platform to share any information that we may have on this project, and keep it as accurate as possible whenever any new information become available

About the developer:
Hongbeeland is the landowner for parcels of sizable lands in Johor Baru and Rawang and they have started their property developments by JV with reputable developers:
JV with SP Setia: Setia Eco Gardens (950 acres)
JV with Guocoland: Emerald @ Rawang (800+acres)

With 500+ acres in hand, HBL have launched a new masterplan township in Rawang, and have completed their own maiden project as below:
Anggun 1: Launched in Year 2007: Completed with CCC
Anggun 2: Launched in Year 2010: Completed pending CCC
AEON Rawang: Completed with shops and TGV cinema
Anggun City: Banks, Restaurants etc: Started Construction
Anggun 3: Now Opening for Registration

AnGGun 3 Site Location:
It shall be at the back of Caltex, a stone throw away from the new AEON Mall and the ongoing AnGGun City Commercials, McD, closer to the Tan & Tan / Bandaraya future project site.

This part of Rawang is undergoing a major transformation, the access roads are being upgraded now as we speak with flyover, extra lanes etc to serve the combined of 6000+ acres of new landed developments that are in progress or will be built from strength to strength by many reputable developers such as:

HondBeeland - AnGGun G&G residential and commercials: 500+ acres
Guocoland - Emerald West & East G&G residential and commercials: 800+ acres
Bandaraya - G&G link homes expected to be from RM700-800k, believer of la dolce vita, italian word for good life: 265 acres
Tan & Tan - "Dubbed "Sierramas 2" G&G per their circulation, rolling trees, massive G&G": 500 acres
Gamuda - Developer of Valencia/Jade Hill/Kota Kemuning planning their next G&G development, with a new direct NSE interchange in 2014 -724 acres
Mah Sing - M Residence 1 & 2 G&G residential and commercials: 380 acres
Glomac - Saujana Rawang: 345 acres
Lowyat - Puteri heights: unknown acres
AP Land/ Lowyat group - Bandar Tasik Puteri: 2670 acres of land.
DA Land -Lakeside parkhomes: 63 acres
Country Garden China - Country Garden Rawang, top 10 developer from china, developer of Danga Bay waterfront city Johor: 380 acres

Infrastructure
@Interchanges (1 in the past to 6 by end of 2015)
Rawang NSE Interchange (Existing, upcoming upgrading on the interchange)
Sungai Buaya (Rawang North) NSE Interchange (Completing 2014)
Rawang South NSE Interchange (Completing Aug 2014)
Rawang South Latar Interchange (Completing 2014)
Tasik Puteri (Rawang West) Latar Interchange (Completing 3Q2015)
Templer Park (Rawang East) Latar Interchange (Completed 2012)

@Upgrading works:
- Jalan Batu Arang Phase 1 in progress, phase 2 and phase 3 coming soon
- NSE 3 lanes to 4 lanes in progress, both direction from existing Rawang Interchange to KL+NKVE
- "T" Junction at the AEON/Anggun Junction to "+" Junction connecting Anggun 3 towards AEON

Commercials:
~ MCD Drive-thru (Completed)
~ AEON Rawang with TGV (Completed)

~ Anggun City commercial (Under Construction)
~ M Avenue (Under Construction)
~ Econsave beside Country homes Wet Market (Under Construction)
~ Platinum Industrial Park & The Two Wholesale City and commercials - By DA Land beside the rawang toll. (Under construction)

~ Bandar Country homes commercial (Completed in 1990s)
~ Revive and resale of Emerald Square commercial. (Facelift completed and relaunch)

~ Tenby International School @ Anggun (Upcoming)
~ Columbia Hospital @ Anggun (Upcoming)
~ The TWO Commercial - trade, wholesale, and outlet
~ Future commercial from almost every major developer: Hongbeeland, Guocoland, Mah Sing, BRDB, Tan & Tan, Gamuda is expected (Upcoming)

Buildup and Price:
2 Storey Link House: tentatively 600k+
3 Storey SuperLink House: unknown
2 Storey Semi-ds: tentatively 1mil+
3 Storey Semi-ds: unknown

Feature (From their online brochure):
1. Resort Home - A Luxurious lifestyle place that you can truly be proud of to call your resort home
2. Gated and Guarded Community Living - 24/7 Security with CCTVs Surveillance
3. Exclusive and Private Clubhouse
4. Swimming Pool and Wading Pool
5. Lush Greenery with walk paths around a Lake
6. Children Playground
7. Shopping and Entertainment Convenience at your Door Step - Aeon Shopping Mall with over 100 stores and a 8-Screen TGV Cinema.

Here are the information from their website, enjoy :














This post has been edited by smooth9: Oct 6 2013, 09:39 PM

I believe the price is not being made public yet since it is now open for registration only (correct me if I am wrong), but from rumors, the lowest entry level for the 2 storey link shall be Tentatively from RM880k+ and above, with the clubhouse for residence beside a lake, and noted that it shall at least comes with Perimeter CCTV like AnGGun 2 or better.

The price seems quite possible, considering Emerald Gardens lowest entry 2 Storey link is now going from 810k+, and it does not have a clubhouse yet, however their MD is looking at the possibility of adding a clubhouse as an option later. The location for the Anggun 3 is slightly better than Emerald Gardens, the only downside is that FOR NOW it is not directly beside AEON Anggun like the Anggun 1 and Anggun 2 series, but in the next few years, it will be closer to the Rawang toll, Tan & Tan new Sierramas massive gated and guarded development, Bandaraya new high end landed developments. And knowing HongBeeLand for these few years, they usually only launched a residential project every 2.5 years or so, and with more and more people luring into Rawang now a days and hence increasing the demand when supply is limited, it shall be interesting to see the market response on this new Anggun 3 series.

This post has been edited by smooth9: Aug 12 2012, 04:15 AM

Well bro, I believe Rawang is not everyone's cup of tea still although it is changing with more people liking this area everyday. Noted the tentative price that I mentioned is the price I heard from my source, though not confirm yet since they have not announce it, and whether it is before or after any discount , buildup size etc is not known yet too. But, it sounds possible, considering the emerald Gardens 2 storey is now 800k+, without clubhouse, slightly further in and is almost sold out already too, and Bandaraya is expected to launch their Semi-ds tentatively starting from 1.5mil to 2mil by end of next year too.

The point that I am trying to make is, it is true that the price does not sounds cheap, but I don't think there is other landed development that is cheaper than this development still or has something comparable with the following:

- within 25km radium from KL/PJ/Shah Alam
- Freehold
- Gated and Guarded
- Tenby International School in the pipeline
- Clubhouse on a lake
- Perimeter CCTV, grand entrance with 24/7 security
- Still in the early stage of developments, with lots of potential in the near future.
- with an AEON mall (or comparable neighbourhood mall) with cinema at your doorsteps
- with new commercial that are similar to the type of Sunway Giza under construction now, and developer has reserved many lots to partially control the tenant mix targeted to preferred tenants, such as banks, restaurants etc.
- Without front gate: hence neighbors and children have more interaction (Many residence in Anggun 1 is experiencing the same thing, unlike other taman where children is usually not safe play outside, here every evening, we can see many children and family playing or gathering outside, though need to watch out for cars and not recommended to play at junction for safety.
- The developments by Hongbeeland, Guocoland, Tan& Tan, and Bandaraya, 4x heavy weight developers are developing side by side and each of them are benchmarking themselves as a high-end development, it will be a DPC, Setia Eco Park, Sierramas, a combination or something even better that will be built side by side.

Still if it is the location of Rawang that is one concern, I belief we should break up into these 2 to objectively determine how "Good" is the location:

Location - Distance:
I always belief that distance is a definite scientific measurement rather than objective, although we are often misguided by our perception/feeling that it is so far/long to travel to this area or that area. But, we can objectively determine the far/closeness of the location, and how long/short it takes to travel to the place that we go most often, e.g. works, or family/friends/relative etc. I have find this information by bro masbruno very helpful to determine the Distance part

Location - Surrounding/Branding:
On the other hand, if the surrounding/branding of the location is a concern, it is changing, and it will continue to change. Successful Landed Gated & Guarded enclave in the initial stage often take times to change its perception due to its size of the land for the township, and when it has developed and changed the perception, many people have already missed the boat . Past is good to serve as a reference/starting point, but how the area is changing to become in the future is more important, some of the example:
- DPC, it is previously being perceived as in Kepong,
- Sierramas, it is previously being perceived as in Sungai Buloh
- Setia Ecopark, it is previously being perceived as in Klang/Meru.
- and now the 4 developments by Hongbeeland, Guocoland, Tan & Tan, and Bandaraya, EACH are benchmarking themselves to become the next successful high-end gated and guarded developments such as above, it is still being perceived as in Rawang. but noticed the change of perception for Rawang is already happening in such a short time over the past 2-3 years? now is still before Bandaraya with their high end development coming in, and Tan & Tan with their Sierramas 2 coming in and already have experience in rebranding Sungai Buloh previously coming in too. This perception for this place is already changing rapidly already. There are 5000 acres+ of land 3-4 km radium from AEON Rawang for a combination of medium-high and high-end developments, and there are 2000+ acres side by side of AEON Rawang by 4 reputable developers moving towards developing this area as a high end landed development, massive gated and guarded residential, beautiful landscape, commercials etc.

In the next few years, this area will be THE LARGEST GATED AND GUARDED, HIGH-END LANDED residential area, probably in the entire Malaysia. And with the security in recent years in many places deteriorating and people are more into lifestyle house, rather than just a house, this area will be very much sought-after more and more everyday. Just like in the past when people are looking for high-rise residential, many people might settle for an apartment without security or facilities, now the trend is security and facility is a must, and buyer buying a mid and above high-rise residential will not settle for one without security and facilities, and IMHO, the trend now is security and facilities is moving towards a must for high-end residential seeker, too, and this area has a massive Gated & Guarded development to fill in that gap

This post has been edited by smooth9: Aug 12 2012, 02:50 PM

Hello Bro,
I have noticed that Guocoland's Emerald Gardens entry level is already selling at:
810k+ for their 2 level link 24x80, 2990sqft = translated into around RM270psf

EG is already almost sold out already, translated into about 270psf per square feet. Although I do not know Anggun 3 exact launching price and size of the unit, but if they are launching at year end, I am doubting it will be 210psf, as in the past Anggun 1, Anggun 2 series, HongBeeLand have ALWAYS priced their product at a premium compared to Guocoland and yet still selling quite fast, as it is not only the house to house comparison only, visitors and potential buyers will notice the difference, as they have always made the overall concept more livable and admirable, example more landscape, grand entrance, perimeter fence with cctv etc for their Anggun 2, hence the subsale for Anggun 1 and 2 is also commanding a premium compared to others, too. If Emerald Gardens is selling at RM270psf almost fully sold, without clubhouse, lake, perimeter CCTV, slightly further in, we shall see the the overall package for Anggun 3 in the coming months

Generally speaking if the supply is too high, it is perhaps a yes to worry, BUT there are more people who are interested to upgrade from non Gated and Guarded, moving into Gated and Guarded everyday, as due to the security condition of Boleh land, no offense just saying the facts, there will be more and more people upgrading/moving/interested to move into a more secured area. If one good developer can pull out 3000 acres of Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park successfully, I don't see a problem with so many reputable developers (about 2000acres high end, and 3000 medium-high developments), each of the heavy weight developers have its own loyal customers/followers willing to upgrade waitting for this high-end development from the developer that they trusted and admired, they will be complimenting each other's developments. This area of Rawang is growing organically, as opposed to superficially, Anggun 1 is almost fully occupied already with more houses renovated every month, like one of the taiko from another forum mentioned, Tan & Tan and BRDB will only be expected to come in year 2013, and building more demands at that time with their own brands and followers, road upgrade etc, as even more people will like this area, and WCT in year 2014, by that time, Anggun City with banks, MCD etc shall be completed already.

The land was cheaper in Rawang previously, and it is probably still consider cheap now, but we shall see in the future, when the heavy weight developers gradually come in with their high-end developments, this area will become the LARGEST GATED AND GUARDED, HIGH-END LANDED in Klang valley, just like Mont Kiara is the Largest concentration of high end condos in Klang Valley, IMHO, this area will transform towards that direction in terms of landed play in the next 5-10 years.

Yes, per bro Jason_chee, they are the original land owner keeping the land for like half a century, with another piece in Johor (now Setia Eco Gardens). They have SOLD the land for partial payment of RM200+Mil and/plus JV with SP Setia to develop Setia Eco Gardes in Johor, and did the same for the Guocoland JV, by sold the land for partial payment of RM??Mil, and/plus JV with Guocoland to develops Emerald East+West. They have kept land for their own Anggun developments, now the portion below Emerald West, all the way till behind caltex, even the land above/on top of Emerald West (bigger land), is also their own land for future developments, some contractor that I have met for Anggun said there are more actually lol, not sure whether that is true on that part, but the one we are seeing now below Emerald for their Anggun is definately theirs, and the one undeveloped above Emerald West is also theirs.

I believe they are a cash rich company, considering they sold both piece of land (for a lumsum), then JV for recurring income on both successful project before they start their own, even the AEON rawang developments is a turnkey project, where they build the whole shopping mall, and then sold it to AEON group, if my source is correct.

Yes, I am staying in Anggun 1 for almost 2 years now, seeing more neighbours moving in every month. Staying here, I have noticed that the community living is quite good, without gate, the landscape, gated & guarded, is doing a big part. Without front gate and side fence at the front part, people are more inclined to meet up with neighbours during gardening, car washing, evening walking etc, and the part with landscape more people do evening walk, and hence closer relationship among neighbours, and neighbour's children, too. I have heard there are some Japanese and Chinese national family staying here too, and few doors away from my house, another Korean family is moving in too with their renovation almost completed, there will be more and more expats looking for a peaceful and secure environment when the Tenby International school is up.
I have stayed in landed neighborhood all my life except few years in condo, and have never been so close with neighbours in such a short time, and hence never expected such a close neighborhood relationship before I more in. Here, neighbors of all races became friends, and close friends taking care of each others just like the old days, which I think is something that $$$ cannot buy. If one has an opportunity to see from own eyes the evening interaction of neighbor, especially weekends, you will know why the occupancy rate is so high here in such a short time, some people who bought the house previously and thought about making it an investment has either sold it to someone who would like to move in, or they themselves change their mind and moved in

This post has been edited by smooth9: Aug 16 2012, 08:10 PM

Good to know that you are a neighbour and nice to meet you here, I will pm you the next time we are having some bbq session

The last few units of Anggun 1 is from 498k, and the starting price of Anggun 2 is like 580k++ when it is open for booking to previous Anggun 1 owner, then the last few units that are open for sale in 2010 are 650k-700k.

Hey Cheah, thanks for sharing, I have confirmed with HBL, and they confirmed the same 24 units of Anggun 2 available for sale next month, price to be confirmed, but tentatively below 900k. It shall be reserved units as opposed to unsold units, as over the past 2 years, I have visited their sales office many times for matters regarding anggun 2, maintenence fees etc, and I confirms that the sticker board is all full since end of 2010 and then no longer in the sales office. Perhaps they have reserved 24 units for sale after AEON Jusco completed, and before VP, sounds like a good buy for potential buyer and developer is also earning more money for the same units too, as Anggun 1 subsale is transacting at 800-850k (35x75 2400+sqft), 750k-800k (32x75 2200+sqft), now Anggun 2 is tentatively <900k 40x80 2700+sqft, with the additional permeter fence and cctv, and central park with water features.

I do agree that it is quite high, but the price is increasing like gradually/organically for both the subsale and bank valuation from my understanding that Anggun is getting the highest valuation from bank so far in this area, and this happens for reason, as for the designs, it is very subjective I guess, but I like the overall environment and landscape personally

I believe RM330-RM350psf is actually the transacted price over the past few months for subsale in Anggun 1, if we do a search around what is in the market in iproperty.com.my or mudah.my, most seller is selling slightly higher than that, of course that is asking price, so even with some discount, it will come to about that price for now, correct me if I am wrong There are also some buyer who would prefer individual title, as Anggun 1 is individual free hold title (and will probably be the first and last Anggun series in individual titles), whereas Anggun 2 and 3 and beyond shall also be strata title, both got pro and cons. The occupancy rate in Anggun 1 is also getting quite high about 90% of the 235 units now occupied / under renovation.

Here are the actual site for Anggun 2 Residence, looks complete and waiting for CCC and perhaps HBL last wave of limited units sale for this series:

Anggun 2 Residence with AEON Mall and Anggun 1 at the backdrop











This post has been edited by smooth9: Aug 17 2012, 11:44 PM

Hi Vestor, yes, just right beside the AEON Mall with TGV cinemas, in between Anggun 1 and Anggun 2, there is a 3 storey lifestyle open street mall @ AnGGun City that is now under construction, some people duped it as Sunway Giza concept, officialy launched on 28th of July, and the 200+ units from RM2mil is almost fully sold. There will be a standalone MCD fronting the AEON Rawang road started contruction together with Anggun City since last month too. From my understanding, HBL has reserved 20+ units for this shoplots, which they will sell/lease it to targeted tenants, such as banks, restaurants etc, so the tenant mix is partially controlled and with more banks etc as landmark, the commercial tenant mix will be interesting:




MCD Standalone, drive-thru at 3'o clock area (actual side now with pilling almost completed)


Anggun 1:

Hi Ironhide828,

The price for maintenance in Anggun 1 is RM180/mth, mainly for the guards and maintaining some common area that is not covered under mps, and for Anggun 2 I cannot remember, as we haven't started paying yet since it is not VP, I believe it is about the same price, perhaps some Anggun 2 buyer will be able to enlighten a little

I think Anggun 3 semi-ds will definitely be RM1m+ as well, since they will have link houses too, we will see

Hi freethinker123,
I am glad to hear that the information helps, and congrats for your investment into Anggun 2 I believe the price of subsale for Anggun 2 will very much depends on the last 20+ units that hongbeeland is expected to release on next month, and also the price for Anggun 3 semi-ds, if the rumors that Anggun 2 remaining reserved units are sold at about RM900k and sold fast, with CCC and keys, Anggun 2 subsale shall be about RM1m I guess, or it will be close to the price of Anggun 3 Semi-ds which shall be RM1mil+. Last time when they first launched Anggun 2, Anggun 1 (although being smaller and slightly different setting) is transacting subsale at about the same price of Anggun 2, as the advantage is the buyer can move-in within months once they have completed renovation, which some buyer would prefer immediate keys. It shall be interesting in the coming months, we will see

As for AEON Rawang, I believe the AEON themselves such as the supermarket, and FNB stores are doing well, but only selected retailers are doing well, but it shall ramp up when more people move in to this area, the road upgrade completed, and also when Anggun city is completed

The traffic at Batu Arang now is improving, but I would say it is inconsistent still as the road upgrade is in progress, since in recent months they often make new temporary roads and close existing roads etc to minimize the effect of the construction but there are still some effect I guess. If you are travelling in peak hour, there will be some traffic as we approach the toll for now, but for off-peak hour, there is almost no traffic. But, it will all change once the upgrade is completed, which the flyover and extension at the part close to toll shall be completed in the next few months, hopefully by end of the year

I don't remember seeing anything about pets not allowed specifically in Anggun 2 in the DMC, from my understanding it shall be allowed, as this is one of the advantage for staying in landed property, as long as the owner are considerate, and the DMC though strata I remember is quite human and not too strict/petty type, Anggun 1 confirm has many pet dogs and cats here

Yes, you are absolutely right bro that the maintenance for Anggun 2 when developer handover shall be higher than Anggun 1, as strata title has more maintenance to do, but the maintenance fees has increased after Anggun 1 added more security, changed the security contract etc, the maintenance fees is RM180 including the sinking funds . If my memory for more than 2 years is correct, Anggun 2 maintenence is RM80 for security + RM80 for landscape. I will know the exact amount when the developer handover the keys and ask for advance payment of the maintenence.

Dear All,

I think it is quite interesting looking at what some of the developments coming up to this part of Rawang:

- Current Ongoing Toll and Road upgrades with flyover
- MRCB awarded the highway widening from Rawang to Sungai Buloh in July 2012, Forth Lane Expansion from 3 lanes, to be completed in 30 months.
- BRDB coming in anticipated next year with their premium semi-ds selling at RM1.5mil onwards, like 500 meters from AEON Mall.
- Tan & Tan new development with Sierramas as benchmark
- Anggun City and MCD drivethru under construction, completing in about 2 years, adjacent to AEON Mall
- Tenby International School coming in
- A neighborhood mall for Emerald West
- The Two (F & B, Houz Depot, Selangor Premium Outlet)

and another upcoming development that I think will be worthy to mention is THE TWO (Trade Wholesale Outlet)(http://www.lakeclubparkhome.com), phase 1 is F & B, and houz depot is in their phase 2, it shall be be good for so many houses completing in the next few years, and the MOST INTERESTING about this development for me is the Proposed Selangor Premium Outlet

I know the Johor Premium Outlet being the 1st in South East Asia is doing EXTREMELY well since the opening and Genting group is looking at doubling the Johor Premium Outlet from 70 stores to 130 stores in the next few years, and they are also looking at plans to expand aggressively with other outlets in Malaysia with the JV of Simon Property Group and the Genting Group. I have previously read somewhere that they are looking at Sepang and Melaka as their 2nd and 3rd outlet, if it is confirmed to move to Rawang or they are making Rawang as their 4th Outlet, either way they should do extremely well for the Klang Valley Market with the large catchment and tourist alike, and it does made perfect sense to be in Rawang too, since Premium Outlet are usually located outside of the CBD and yet not too far, so that for example the Coach stores in CBD will not be competing directly with their Coach Outlet. It will be a MAJOR crowd puller that crowd from klang valley and tourists alike would come and shop Ikea is a crowd puller for Mutiara Damansara pulling many adults and family from all over klang valley and in some case other states in peninsular malaysia for their new home or home enhancement. I reckon, The Selangor Premium Outlet will pull crowd who desires branded designer items at a discount from all over klang valley, and also tourists as well, and it is going to be LANDMARK development that will pull lots of crowd and continue to evolve this part of Rawang, that Rawang will sound very different in the next few year

Phase 1: Proposed Food Haven for Tourists
The first of its kind in Malaysia, sprawling across 2-levels catered especially for Food & Beverages, Local Products & Souvenirs outlets with a Hypermarket and Home Improvement Wholesale at its lower ground floor, built with ample car park.

Phase 2: Proposed International Trade & Wholesale City with Houz Depot
Poised to bring together a pulsating blend of trade and wholesale businesses following the success of Yiwu – China’s Commodity City.

Phase 3: Proposed Selangor Premium Outlet
A discount shopping paradise for both tourists and locals alike, set to offer impressive savings on high-end brands.

Phase 4: Proposed Hotel, Exhibition Hall, Showroom Office & Serviced Residence
Future plans to unite business and luxury living in one convenient wholesome integrated development.



Current Tenants at Johor Premium Outlet, and noted it is full, I am sure there will be even more brands that are waiting for their phase 2 in Johor, and many will designer brands will be coming in for Selangor Premium Outlets

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This post has been edited by smooth9: Sep 13 2012, 02:53 AM

Bro Amint, Hongbeeland still has previously reserved units for Anggun 2 (about 24 units estimated about 900k each will be release this month or next month, VP shall be within 1-2 months as well), and Guocoland also has units for their Emerald Gardens as well about 800k and up for their 2 storey superlink.

You're welcome bro

Bro welcome to the forum, and thanks also sharing your insight on the dog and cats issues in strata title as opposed to individual titles. I agree with you absolutely on the potential of future Rawang, you are one of the pioneer who bought into DPC and get rewarded, salute on your vision. I am pretty sure that as long as the developers execute the project well (they should with so many reputable developers competing and collaborating together) , we will be right on the future for this part of Rawang if not better and bigger, there are so much that are currently being built or will be built and will make Rawang looks so much different in the coming years

4) I would like to add that Anggun 1 subsale is probably your other option too, as Anggun 1 is confirmed individual titles and probably the only one Anggun series that are in individual titles, as Anggun 2, 3 etc all will be strata titles already and can foresee future Anggun developments will also be strata. We have dogs and cats here, some with couple of dogs too, there is a growing human, and pets population here lol, if you buy here we will be neighbor lol

This post has been edited by smooth9: Sep 17 2012, 12:08 AM

Bro, Emerald Garden inside Emerald West is Freehold. Here are the summaries of the 6000+ acres land bank of recent and upcoming developments.

ANGGUN, by Hong Bee Land (0km from AEON Mall)
500+acres Freehold

Emerald Enclave, by Guocoland (0.5km from AEON Mall)
800+acres Freehold

M Residence, by Mah Sing (3km from AEON Mall)
226 acres Freehold + 157 acres Leasehold

Saujana Rawang, by Glomac (3km from AEON Mall)
345 acres Leasehold

Taman Desa Mas, by Desa Mahumas (2.5km from AEON Mall)
100-acre Leasehold

Puteri heights, by Lowyat group (3km from AEON Mall)
unknown acres of freehold land, now mainly boutique developments

Bandar Tasik Puteri, AP Land/Lowyat group (5km from AEON Mall)
2670 acres of leasehold

LakeClub ParkHome, by DA Land (1km from Rawang Town)
63 acres Leasehold

The Two, by DA Land (0.5km from the toll, fronting NSE)
Unknown acres of commercial

***coming soon***
*Tan & Tan Development: Sierramas 2?* (1.5km from AEON Mall):
500+acres Freehold

*Bandaraya Development*? (0.5km from AEON Mall)
265 acres Freehold & Leasehold

*WCT Development:
468 acres, unknown freehold/leasehold and location.

*Country Gardens, Mayland + Country Garden China.
unknown acres and location

*Sunway/Sunrise:
unknown acres, Templer Park

This post has been edited by smooth9: Sep 17 2012, 02:02 AM

Thanks for the input bro, you are right, somehow I missed out the lakeclub parkhome tenure, I have updated the lists

same for BRDB high end development too, tentatively 2H13, IMHO they might both be waiting for the completion of the access road to launch their premium development, by 2h13 the flyover shall be completed already and perhaps part of the road expansion

Congrats on your Amberley bro, sharing is caring as I read and learn a lot from fellow taiko and taije in the forum before I made the decision to buy my first house too few years back, I am glad those information is useful for anyone I am just excited being an owner and to be frank I am quite surprise that I myself am still excited about this area after few years lol. I do not follow much on the subsale of Amberley, so I am unable to comment much on that sorry bro, but congrats on making the great decision

I truly believe we are merely starting to see great developments coming online, there are still so much developments in the pipeline or will be in the pipeline for this part of rawang, thanks to the masses of cheap undeveloped land in the past, as with those masses of undeveloped lands in the past plus the masses of reputable developers working strength with strength on their developments almost side by side, 25 minutes away from KLCC, made a perfect ingredient to pull out something huge and with great demands from families who appreciate living in a massive Gated and Guarded landed development that shall be complemented with beautiful landscape.

Just like Mont kiara has made the name for being the area with the most number of high end condos concentrated in the same area mainly developed by Sunrise, this part of Rawang will soon be the area with the most number of high end gated and guarded development in klang valley that will be jointly developed by so many reputable developers, each with a sizable land banks to pull out a major developments in their portfolio, sharing the same vision, and each having their own creativity, resources, followers on their developments. Due to the unfortunate security condition in our country, gated and guarded will be very sought after by families over at least over the next 1-2 decades IMO, and with more people buying and moving into this part of Rawang and for the gated and guarded developments, the are and its commercials will fly too!

Like what brother simple007 said, who is one of the earlier pioneer who made the brilliant decision on buying and staying in DPC years ago when so many people are criticizing about the DPC development at that time, he is seeing this part of Rawang like history replay of his experience on buying into desa park city at that time I agree absolutely, and am looking forward for the future on this part of Rawang, a massive High-end Gated and Guarded Landed Developments is in the making,

This post has been edited by smooth9: Sep 18 2012, 12:19 AM

Dear All,

It is always refreshing to see so many new posts about Anggun and its surrounding developments in Rawang.

McD is opening real soon right beside AEON and Anggun City!! or more accurately - it is a MC CAFE their big "M" signage is up, and when I check out yesterday, wow they are working day, night and midnight! It is a 24 hours, drive-thru Mc Cafe, and even now they are working 24 hours to get it set up, they seems to be almost complete for opening, it is really lightning speed, as it takes only 4-5 months from ground up and now almost ready already bravo
Mc Cafe is already in their final fittings stage and shall be ready for opening in 1-2 weeks, perhaps before the handover of Anggun 2 during 1st and 2nd of December. I see chairs, tables are up already, carpark, signages, interior finishes seems to be ready already. It is quite cozy and nice, as it is a Mc Cafe serving coffee handcrafted by professionals, muffins, cakes etc, definitely a nice place to hang out with friends too, and we can get most of the burgers and meals as well from a separate counter



This post has been edited by smooth9: Nov 20 2012, 01:40 PM

Hi Jerry88,

I will try to answer your question to the best of my knowledge on the overall owners who bought and stayed in Anggun 1 -, I am currently staying in Anggun 1, now about 2-3 years after VP, the neighborhood has reasonably good occupancy rates of about 90%+ and more houses are being renovating each month, and thankfully, most of the neighbor here are getting quite close and know each other, there has been quite a bit of gathering, open houses etc among different jalan jalan

"I wish to find if anybody knows who are the people buying Anggun or Rawang at large?"
Anggun 1:
Majority of the owners in Anggun 1, as I can see about half of us here are business owners, running businesses in different fields, small to large, professionals, we have several lawyers, accountants, auditors, air stewardess, engineers working in oil and gas industry, white collars working in MNCs, telcos, directors and decision maker of large factories nearby as well, there are also a few expatriates families, one of my immediate neighbor family is from Korea, and I heard there are some Chinese families, Japanese families too etc. At least one thing I am pretty sure for Anggun 1 is that at least half of the residents here does not work in Rawang or nearby, we commute about half an hour daily to work in KL, PJ, Shah Alam, some even further at Putrajaya etc.

Anggun 2:
With Anggun 2 owners getting keys next week, I am not yet sure about the residential mix, but from the past visits in the sales gallery, chat with the SA, cars in the carpark etc, I get the impression that there are even more business owners who are buying into Anggun 2, these are the people who demands gated and guarded security, prefer a laid back lifestyle away from the hectic work schedules, and also are flexible on their travel time to their work for not needing to be caught in the peak hour traffic.

"Where are the support to double up the price coming from?Are there a lot of factory nearby? If not, hard for me to see the potential. Can somebody tell me?"
In my personal view, there are lots of reasons that are luring people into Rawang recently:

Major Infrastructure Upgrades:
The fly-over in front of Rawang Toll (NSE) is progressing well, and should be ready in about a year, it will be followed by road expansion leading to AEON, Anggun, and Bandar Country Homes. Besides this, NSE is adding 1x additional lanes for both direction from Rawang until Jalan Duta completing in 2 years, major works has begun on the south-bound for adding the additional lanes as we can see now. The Rawang NSE Toll will also be expanded in the near future.

Growth and Catalyst from Major Developers:
There has been a growing number of reputable developers coming into this area, bringing their expertise for successful township, loyal customers etc. Guoccoland, HongBeeland, Mah Sing, Glomac, Lowyat etc are already in this area, and soon Tan & Tan, Bandaraya Development Berhad will be onboard and bring more value to the surrounding. The current commercial catalyst, AEON Rawang, Mc Cafe, Anggun City, Tenby International school (coming soon), hospitals (coming soon) are all catalyst from 1x reputable developer at the moment and that is not even all, there are still parcels of lands allocated for commercial that are yet to be developed. It is interesting to see what others will bring to the table soon when they join the fray.

Intense Population Growth of Klang Valley:
It is no secret that population of Klang Valley is experiencing major urban migration from other states, and hence not just this development in this part of Rawang, the developments will spread wider, klang valley, greater KL or whatever we will call it in the future will just go into wider radius. In 2010, the population of Klang Valley is recorded to be about 5 million, and according to a report that I have read on Greater KL (http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/annualreport/upload/ENG_NKEA_Greater_KLKV.pdf), we are expected to have about 10 millions residence by year 2020. Imagine doubling the population, it will means that we will be experiencing more than 5% population growth in the coming years, and as we know, there are only 2 way to accommodate the population growth, either we stay in taller highrise, or the residential distance acceptable range will spread further away from the cities, and in geographic setting like Selangor, we will definately see both as we are not an Island, or surrounded by lots of mountains etc. Afterall, to travel to this part of Rawang, if one is working in downtown KL, or PJ north that in my opinion PJ north is shaping up like a new golden triangle with the massive numbers of commercials, offices, coming up near bandar utama, mutiara damansara, kota damansara, damansara perdana that will also means a lot more people will be working in PJ north, and both downtown KL and PJ north is only less than 30 minutes from this part of Rawang, so the travelling time of 30 minutes will be attractive to many.

If we have friends or relatives living in other metropolis in the world with more than 10 million population, we will easily know that traveling times of 30 minutes is very little. My friends in tokyo told me that it is normal for people in tokyo to travel 1-2 hour each way to work everyday. The norms for our acceptable traveling time will change overtime, as such, the norm of travelling 15-20 minutes as an acceptable travelling time in the past is already changing to 30-40 minutes IMO, and soon, Rawang will be consider very close for most people when the norms changes to accepting traveling time to work for living 1 hour away from the city. That day shall come, when the population in Klang Valley grow to 10 million, and that will be supporting migration into this part of Rawang as well. That is my personal opinion

Here are the photos that I have taken tonight on Mc Cafe, cappuccino brewing soon




This post has been edited by smooth9: Nov 21 2012, 04:55 AM

Thank you bro

Thank you, I am just sharing what I know


Yes, IMO, the new owner got a good deal or the seller is quite desperate to sell the unit upon vp, looking at there are quite a bit of forumer and some one that i know is eyeing the release of the final 24 units of Anggun 2, willing to buy at RM888k, but all the intermediate were sold before most of us know, perhaps it were sold out when they open to insider only by developer for RM 888k, so the new buyer is like unable to get it from developer for RM888k as it were fully sold, expecting to pay a little more from the market, but so lucky to get it from the market cheaper than insider from developer, anyway willing buyer willing seller now I have notice that most units were advertised for about 930k to 1 million at iproperty.com , we will see, when Anggun city is up, and those reserved units were taken by banks and other preferred tenants, I believe we will see something like ss2, kota damansara or damansara utama where many banks will set up branch here and spice up the commercials and residential, remembering than Anggun City tenants will be partially controlled, it has a high chance of success IMO, if not in the near future, this area will be very much under serve by banks too Anggun 2 is one if the place where value is increasing fast, and yet bank valuation also did catch up to about the same value.

This post has been edited by smooth9: Nov 21 2012, 07:25 PM