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DragonReine
post Nov 23 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(babybobby @ Nov 22 2014, 06:59 PM)
wow, that's a really positive attitude in arts. what kinda drawing media you prefer? u do both manual and digital?
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Haha, some artists don't like my approach, because I think discipline > "inspiration". If I only paint when I'm "inspired", I'll never get anything done.

Primarily digital. Traditional painting is just...messy laugh.gif and oil painting takes forever to dry.

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seba
post Nov 23 2014, 09:13 PM

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That's actually a great approach, discipline. hmm.gif

By the way, how about discussion about sketching strokes.

https://www.facebook.com/kr0npr1nz/photos/a...?type=1&theater

How do u guys do your strokes? I always find my sketches very messy because my strokes are fast and short, and I add a lot more lines when I do mistakes, maybe I need to change my habit, I wonder how these guys sketch look really good, alot of practice or just talent?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=374...&type=1&theater

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post Nov 23 2014, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(seba @ Nov 23 2014, 09:13 PM)
That's actually a great approach, discipline. hmm.gif

By the way, how about discussion about sketching strokes.

How do u guys do your strokes? I always find my sketches very messy because my strokes are fast and short, and I add a lot more lines when I do mistakes, maybe I need to change my habit, I wonder how these guys sketch look really good, alot of practice or just talent?


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My strokes lagi messy.
I bodoh lighting, cannot properly imagine and shade my sketches, even more I messed up every time I ink my drawings.

Oh, and thanks for the links.
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post Nov 23 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(XPAWNED01 @ Nov 23 2014, 09:21 PM)
My strokes lagi messy.
I bodoh lighting, cannot properly imagine and shade my sketches, even more I messed up every time I ink my drawings.

Oh, and thanks for the links.
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U dont need to care for lighting in sketches, just lines.

No problem bro, sharing the inspiration and great artists!
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post Nov 23 2014, 11:12 PM

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Eh, most pro artists consider "sketches" to be "stuff that I don't consider finished"

They still might have messy during the base+construction stage.

Although, for "form" sketching (i.e. lineart sketching), one usually tries to be as precise as possible with each line, since the goal is to practice catching the forms/lines of a figure.

Contrast with value sketching, which is to practice capturing the values of an image, and may look a lot messier.

Most of these looks like a result of practice, because their hand-to-eye coordination has to be precise to get that level of "clean" in their lines.
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post Nov 24 2014, 12:10 AM

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just wanna share my ex-colleague's DA
He got nice style
He can draw portrait, murrican style comic illust and manga style too.

http://shutyourmind.deviantart.com/

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post Nov 24 2014, 11:26 AM

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For me, I hate doing the same thing over and over again, so I tend to make less and lesser construction line and immediately merge them into main layer. The other way around is create overall construction line and paint over them just like traditional painting, but in manga style.

But I do admire messy line work by [CHOCOLATE WORKS] or CHOCO in his IS works. He then redraw over them again and again until he satisfied with the final pose.

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post Nov 24 2014, 01:47 PM

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actually isnt most ppl do like that?
keep on refining the messy sketch until it is clear enough for "inking"

that how i draw. :/
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post Nov 24 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(mclelun @ Nov 24 2014, 01:47 PM)
actually isnt most ppl do like that?
keep on refining the messy sketch until it is clear enough for "inking"

that how i draw. :/
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up to people one, some need many sketch lines

so people really pro can cut off some steps like a bawse.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 24 2014, 01:53 PM)
up to people one, some need many sketch lines

so people really pro can cut off some steps like a bawse.
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Yeah, like those who held fans meet, then draw for them live on TV. All in permanent marker and most in single stroke. I was like wtf, draw just like it was nothing. shocking.gif
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post Nov 24 2014, 09:00 PM

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Thats what intriguing me, some people sketch so decently, they use slow and steady strokes and it looks so good, I think this is where all the practices make a difference, or talent.

Just like Kim Junggi, if u watch his live drawing, mistakes are almost non existent, he just let his pen dance, I wonder how he can even do that? Did he just pre-estimate the sketch on his mind and map it on the canvas. It is done so effortlessly, the details too.
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QUOTE(seba @ Nov 24 2014, 09:00 PM)
Thats what intriguing me, some people sketch so decently, they use slow and steady strokes and it looks so good, I think this is where all the practices make a difference, or talent.

Just like Kim Junggi, if u watch his live drawing, mistakes are almost non existent, he just let his pen dance, I wonder how he can even do that? Did he just pre-estimate the sketch on his mind and map it on the canvas. It is done so effortlessly, the details too.
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Probably.

Or they've been used to it, after drawing thousands of artwork in their lifetime, like most mangaka. All the top mangaka I saw can do it, like Tite Kubo and Masashi Kishimoto. They even used Kuricolor to color their drawing live.

Guess I'll never be the same level as them. sad.gif
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post Nov 25 2014, 06:01 PM

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Anyone can be the same level as them if keep on drawing. we just dont see the hardwork they already put in earlier.

I can see a little bit of improvement in my drawing in the last few weeks since I take the initiative to draw everyday. tongue.gif

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post Nov 25 2014, 07:10 PM

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I think its true, the answer to everything is discipline, now where do I get one? sad.gif
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post Nov 25 2014, 09:07 PM

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Not sure about other ppl, but i find doing creative stuff (drawing, painting, 3d etc) enjoyable. Less discipline are needed in my case, since i really enjoy doing them
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post Nov 25 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(seba @ Nov 23 2014, 09:46 PM)
U dont need to care for lighting in sketches, just lines.

No problem bro, sharing the inspiration and great artists!
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:40 PM

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post Nov 29 2014, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(seba @ Nov 29 2014, 10:40 PM)
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