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 I vow to never buy a Proton again..., ...even if I have to eat bread for 9 yrs

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TSRayLaguna
post Aug 8 2012, 06:43 PM, updated 14y ago

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I have had a horrible experience with Proton service centre.

They're irresponsible people who damaged my car and did little to improve the situation.

Forced to buy a Proton and end up with so much frustrations dealing with after sales.

After sales service is every bit as important as before a purchase is made.

Unreliable and unprofessional car manufacturer; I'd love to see them go down.

I'm now stuck with a Proton, unable to dispose of it, or lose RM20k by selling it.

I'm too overwhelmed to write about my story.

But I just want to say to all of you:

I URGE YOU TO THINK TWICE BEFORE PURCHASING A PROTON.
A COMPANY WITH SUCH ATTITUDE TOWARDS CUSTOMERS SHOULD NEVER HAVE SURVIVED.
IT'S A SHAME THEY'RE STILL AROUND.
LIFE IS UNFAIR.
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:46 PM

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at least tell us what happened? u dont expect to swallow whatever shit u are spewing without any proof or at least your side of the story
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:46 PM

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Chill bro..
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:49 PM

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find another Service centre if you are not satisfied with the current one. Some are just useless. but there are good SC out there.
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:50 PM

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Your Waja CPS? What happened?

I agree with Jasonloh, some SCs are terrible, but some are not that bad. Need to hear your story first.
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:52 PM

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you're telling us something we already know.. i remember those proton days, the car is as the same as it was the day you send in for fixing at collection
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:54 PM

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Its not only the crap SC but also the crap quality Proton dish out even after 25 years. I agree with TS. Proton = CRAPPPPP.
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post Aug 8 2012, 07:00 PM

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Bro if you don't give proof of the ownership of your car.
Example: receipt, sc centre and picture.
And nvr give full details on what happen I am going to report to moderator for making a fake claim.

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perodua no complaints. still running best after 4 years myvi. good luck to you
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:00 PM)
Bro if you don't give proof of the ownership of your car.
Example: receipt, sc centre and picture.
And nvr give full details on what happen I am going to report to moderator for making a fake claim.
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If have to give proof of car ownership, i think 50% of the peopel here will be booted off FnF cause they dont even own a car biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 8 2012, 08:00 PM)
Bro if you don't give proof of the ownership of your car.
Example: receipt, sc centre and picture.
And nvr give full details on what happen I am going to report to moderator for making a fake claim.
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post Aug 8 2012, 07:05 PM

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tutup saja la proton
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post Aug 8 2012, 07:10 PM

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my wira ended up with higher TCO than a honda city, over 5+ years.
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Hmmm.... Potential thread.
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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 8 2012, 06:49 PM)
find another Service centre if you are not satisfied with the current one. Some are just useless. but there are good SC out there.
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This... nod.gif

I had same experience almost the same with u, very bad PESC. What i do is screw off the 5 years warranty & servicing my car outside workshop..if u follow the manual servicing book it should have no problem like mine. 87k km still like new..
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my wira served me well..after 12 years..200k..my repair per year only <700..
bad luck to u..
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post Aug 8 2012, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 8 2012, 07:02 PM)
If have to give proof of car ownership, i think 50% of the peopel here will be booted off FnF cause they dont even own a car biggrin.gif
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Daddy's car kenot meh? vmad.gif vmad.gif ask daddy for car cert lah coz wanna post on FnF mad.gif mad.gif


Added on August 8, 2012, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:10 PM)
my wira ended up with higher TCO than a honda city, over 5+ years.
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blink.gif blink.gif

Say your Wira costs RM50k new, and a City is RM85k, it costs you an extra RM35k++ to own your Wira over 5 years ?

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:11 PM)
This... nod.gif

I had same experience almost the same with u, very bad PESC. What i do is screw off the 5 years warranty & servicing my car outside workshop..if u follow the manual servicing book it should have no problem like mine. 87k km still like new..
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You mean outside workshop did better than Proton SC? hmm.gif


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post Aug 8 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2012, 07:16 PM)
Daddy's car kenot meh?  vmad.gif  vmad.gif ask daddy for car cert lah coz wanna post on FnF mad.gif  mad.gif

sweat.gif Cann....

Most get daddy to buy the car for them anyway tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:29 PM)
You mean outside workshop did better than Proton SC?  hmm.gif
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Yeap...it towards to reputable workshop to be exact. For me in johor bahru i always go to Era Maju or Goodyear Soh Brothers. BUT im not saying all PESC are bad..some off them are. I got a friend Singchaii also work as head proton service centre but he very friendly, trusted & polite person..different what im dealing in JB. If only im near where he work i dont mind to service my car to him.



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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yeap...it towards to reputable workshop to be exact. For me in johor bahru i always go to Era Maju or Goodyear Soh Brothers. BUT im not saying all PESC are bad..some off them are. I got a friend Singchaii also work as head proton service centre but he very friendly, trusted & polite person..different what im dealing in JB. If only im near where he work i dont mind to service my car to him.
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So where he work?


Actually , after I think about it. At outside workshop, you can request the technicians to install best parts for your car while in Proton SC, everything will be from PROTON and it is an open secret that most proton car's parts are from crony's companies which resulted some quality issues. Am i right? smile.gif
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Vow is Not Strong enuffffff, dude


Added on August 8, 2012, 8:15 pmBtw.. Look for other SC baaa

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i will never buy proton.
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post Aug 8 2012, 08:22 PM

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which sc you went?

List down...we can avoid it at all cost..smile.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:54 PM)
So where he work?
Actually , after I think about it. At outside workshop, you can request the technicians to install best parts for your car while in Proton SC, everything will be from PROTON and it is an open secret that most proton car's parts are from crony's companies which resulted some quality issues. Am i right? smile.gif
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I forgot but u can PM him..

actually how true the crony's parts are im not sure but buying parts from spare part shop cheaper a bit than straight send servicing at PESC. About the quality issue i have no issue but i always trusted proton ori parts other than other 3rd party parts maker.

what car u on bro?
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post Aug 8 2012, 09:22 PM

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for SC..i suggest u change SC
certain SC very good, certain SC very bad
different SC is run/manage by different person...different management
i know becuz i've got a few SC in my place
the one i went is EON, thn move to PE SC
both is like heaven and hell
not to say service bad but 1 is turtle slow(service also need half day) while the other only need 1 hour and will change faulty parts for u easily

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I had greater experience then you i think.. Whole engine blown by them.. COE...I shout at the Technical Assistance Fxxx!!! 5 months without my car, and they borrowed me a Persona.. I trash it like no one else business and get my car back with a new engine after 5 months
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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Aug 8 2012, 09:23 PM)
I had greater experience then you i think.. Whole engine blown by them.. COE...I shout at the Technical Assistance Fxxx!!! 5 months without my car, and they borrowed me a Persona.. I trash it like no one else business and get my car back with a new engine after 5 months
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what car u bought?...same car they borrow u?
so nice get back new car with 0 mileage. tongue.gif
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proton QC is crappy last time we know already. but for Wira / Iswara still the best option of proton.

easy find spare part and fix. now not really, the spare parts also not cheap. that why they fail so hard to sell a car more than 65k. people will turn to KIA, dugong or etc anytime.
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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yeap...it towards to reputable workshop to be exact. For me in johor bahru i always go to Era Maju or Goodyear Soh Brothers. BUT im not saying all PESC are bad..some off them are. I got a friend Singchaii also work as head proton service centre but he very friendly, trusted & polite person..different what im dealing in JB. If only im near where he work i dont mind to service my car to him.
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Go Era Maju can wash eyes.
Seeing all the supercar there. drool.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 8 2012, 07:33 PM)
sweat.gif Cann....

Most get daddy to buy the car for them anyway tongue.gif
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me use my own money... cry.gif
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Are you the one in the video where an angry proton customer scolded the sales manager?
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At least tell what the problem lah dude..........................................
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TS no reply dah. ok boleh kolos nao.
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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:11 PM)
This... nod.gif

I had same experience almost the same with u, very bad PESC. What i do is screw off the 5 years warranty & servicing my car outside workshop..if u follow the manual servicing book it should have no problem like mine. 87k km still like new..
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wah, you so daring. i din do that. Luckily i din, coz i claimed warranty on aircond valve at 50K km mileage. which the warranty is over and he still installed it for me coz i order the parts at 49,900km mileage. SC i changed to for me is the best. Can request for everything. I bought a DRL online and he installed for me XD and the highest service charge for servicing there is RM60.

QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:54 PM)
So where he work?
Actually , after I think about it. At outside workshop, you can request the technicians to install best parts for your car while in Proton SC, everything will be from PROTON and it is an open secret that most proton car's parts are from crony's companies which resulted some quality issues. Am i right? smile.gif
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if outside sparepart you think the part have good quality, then think again.
even if i know proton parts are may not of the best quality, a lot of smaller workshop outside used cheaper spare parts which charge you cheaper of coz. unless those reputable one with a lot of supercar and classy car, they use reputable sparepart which if you going there, it cost high also.

QUOTE(kobe10 @ Aug 8 2012, 09:23 PM)
I had greater experience then you i think.. Whole engine blown by them.. COE...I shout at the Technical Assistance Fxxx!!! 5 months without my car, and they borrowed me a Persona.. I trash it like no one else business and get my car back with a new engine after 5 months
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wow, at least they give you a car to drive, and when you get back your car is still new XD
but i wondering why changing an engine need 5 month. what car you driving??


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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yeap...it towards to reputable workshop to be exact. For me in johor bahru i always go to Era Maju or Goodyear Soh Brothers. BUT im not saying all PESC are bad..some off them are. I got a friend Singchaii also work as head proton service centre but he very friendly, trusted & polite person..different what im dealing in JB. If only im near where he work i dont mind to service my car to him.
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Era maju charge not cheap also. hahaha~~but the quality of service thumbup.gif

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my saga working since 1991, no probs so far. whats your story? this thread is pointless.
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My P1 less then 4 yrs more then 120k, no problem, no complain on the current service center. Problems all settle by them. smile.gif

Ayam happy owner. Only problem is driving P1 is like a poorfag in the eyes of majority malaysiaan.
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QUOTE(danabu @ Aug 8 2012, 10:29 PM)
My P1 less then 4 yrs more then 120k, no problem, no complain on the current service center. Problems all settle by them.  smile.gif

Ayam happy owner. Only problem is driving P1 is like a poorfag in the eyes of majority malaysiaan.
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good mah. last target to be robbed. biggrin.gif

safety feature +1

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Aug 8 2012, 09:34 PM)
proton QC is crappy last time we know already. but for Wira / Iswara still the best option of proton.

easy find spare part and fix. now not really, the spare parts also not cheap. that why they fail so hard to sell a car more than 65k. people will turn to KIA, dugong or etc anytime.
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i think ppl here including u misunderstood TS's problem
his problem is SC..not QC of the car
and yes...different SC will have different attitude toward customer..just switch SC
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i is poor. i buy proton, no problem here.
u is rich. u buy proton, u have problem.

Question, why u rich wan buy proton, but then complain? Or why u poor have to buy proton, yet wan to complain?

pay peanuts get peanuts la.....

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I love my Proton smile.gif it never give me big problem

small problem I tolerate
- rattling
- wind noise
- plastic interior

As long not big problem like the engine or gearbox or other big stuff I'm okay with Proton.

Proton I had so far

Saga aeroback 1991
Wira aeroback
Wira sedan
Iswara
Waja
Neo
Exora Bold

All never give me big problem!!
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iz a proton... and iz normal smile.gif
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:40 PM)
I love my Proton smile.gif it never give me big problem

small problem I tolerate
- rattling
- wind noise
- plastic interior

As long not big problem like the engine or gearbox or other big stuff I'm okay with Proton.

Proton I had so far

Saga aeroback 1991
Wira aeroback
Wira sedan
Iswara
Waja
Neo
Exora Bold

All never give me big problem!!
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thats the problem for proton all this long...most are all minor problem like rattling
major problem usually doesn't have since the part that they use are all good parts like denso, bosch....its those plastic fitting that give problems
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 8 2012, 10:30 PM)
good mah. last target to be robbed. biggrin.gif

safety feature +1
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now a day, those aunties with RM 20 on the way to market are the targets for the robbers. Quite number of cases oredi in my area. Sad, crime rate keep going up.
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Honda/toyota salesman spotted.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2012, 10:43 PM)
thats the problem for proton all this long...most are all minor problem like rattling
major problem usually doesn't have since the part that they use are all good parts like denso, bosch....its those plastic fitting that give problems
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yes rattling
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Page 3 already, so fast.

Anyway TS, my old Saga AB (no. plate KS 51xx Q) still alive till today. No prob with engine & GB. Keep maintaining every month. Still move like a boss even its a little bit oldskool (the interior, but meh I can live with that).

Anyway, don't just go one SC, go other place as well / ask somebody who know well if u look for the better SC.

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No need to mention that Proton engine is reliable ... run for 10 yrs or 20 yrs still good. Everyone knows. The engine is from Mitsubishi.

I think peoples in this post more concern about quality or material problem with Proton or Services with Proton. Such as ...

1. Power windows failed
2. Steering burn with high voltage
3. lock not working....f
4. Door handle dropped
5. Leaked into car
5. etc .....

These are the most headache problem from Proton.


Added on August 8, 2012, 10:54 pm
QUOTE(alpha33 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:40 PM)
i is poor. i buy proton, no problem here.
u is rich. u buy proton, u have problem.

Question, why u rich wan buy proton, but then complain? Or why u poor have to buy proton, yet wan to complain?

pay peanuts get peanuts la.....
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You dont pay peanut for proton. Everyone knows the car price you pay for Proton far more expensive than the price they exported to other countries.

Proton is very expensive car to Malaysian ... And foreign car is EXTREME expensive to Malaysian.

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Overheard at COE, a guy talking to another guy whose wife is at the counter.

"Apa jadi?"
"Airbag keluar."
"Airbag Keluar!!? blink.gif "

Speechless laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hayrol @ Aug 8 2012, 10:46 PM)
Page 3 already, so fast.

Anyway TS, my old Saga AB (no. plate KS 51xx Q) still alive till today. No prob with engine & GB. Keep maintaining every month. Still move like a boss even its a little bit oldskool (the interior, but meh I can live with that).

Anyway, don't just go one SC, go other place as well / ask somebody who know well if u look for the  better SC.
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Yeah ... Very fast. Page 3 already. You can see many peoples complains about proton. What is that mean? Peoples concern and care about Proton. Really good Rakyat Malaysia. This is good sign.

The peoples who love the product and country will always complaint for improvement. Very Good.

If not one respond in this thread, then I will be worry because no one care about Proton. thumbup.gif
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what is the story lar
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Yeah lah ... No story... Please cancel this thread. Since no one explain the detail. Not fair to lodge complain here.
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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Aug 8 2012, 09:18 PM)
I forgot but u can PM him..

actually how true the crony's parts are im not sure but buying parts from spare part shop cheaper a bit than straight send servicing at PESC. About the quality issue i have no issue but i always trusted proton ori parts other than other 3rd party parts maker.

what car u on bro?
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OH is a LYN member haha ..

Well, just now you mentioned about screw off the 5 years warranty and services. That 5 years warranty and services will cost you 0 for any problem to your car right? So why still go to outside workshop?
I am driving my dad's old Vios, so far no major problem but I am very interest on Preve, has been checking on Preve issues and Proton SC issues from time to time.. hopefully they will improve because I do not wish to visit them often .. sweat.gif
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:20 PM)
if outside sparepart you think the part have good quality, then think again.
even if i know proton parts are may not of the best quality, a lot of smaller workshop outside used cheaper spare parts which charge you cheaper of coz. unless those reputable one with a lot of supercar and classy car, they use reputable sparepart which if you going there, it cost high also.
Well I dunno. People said that Proton car entered SC came out the problem still theres... sweat.gif

QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
No need to mention that Proton engine is reliable ... run for 10 yrs or 20 yrs still good. Everyone knows. The engine is from Mitsubishi.

I think peoples in this post more concern about quality or material problem with Proton or Services with Proton. Such as ...

1. Power windows failed
2. Steering burn with high voltage
3. lock not working....f
4. Door handle dropped
5. Leaked into car
5. etc .....

These are the most headache problem from Proton.
Nope, nowadays Proton using Campro engine which was a joint development between Lotus and Proton, no longer using Japanese engines , so a lot of people doubt its reliability as well.
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Haha..yeap it was risky but i had to did it anyway laugh.gif . I even still have the 3rd free service coupon.

Yeah era maju charge are not cheap but they provide top job..& they dont "pick hair" what car u drive. From ferrari's to 660cc kancil..no prob.
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OH is a LYN member haha ..

Well, just now you mentioned about screw off the 5 years warranty and services. That 5 years warranty and services will cost you 0 for any problem to your car right? So why still go to outside workshop?
I am driving my dad's old Vios, so far no major problem but I am very interest on Preve, has been checking on Preve issues and Proton SC issues from time to time.. hopefully they will improve because I do not wish to visit them often ..  sweat.gif

Well I dunno. People said that Proton car entered SC came out the problem still theres...  sweat.gif
Nope, nowadays Proton using Campro engine which was a joint development between Lotus and Proton, no longer using Japanese engines , so a lot of people doubt its reliability as well.
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Yes.. Thats why u see inspira sales not good.. Ppl dun trsut campro
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:22 PM)
Yes.. Thats why u see inspira sales not good.. Ppl dun trsut campro
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I thought Inspira are using Mivec Engine >.> Which was a Japanese engine . Are you trolling me? sweat.gif
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proton car is not cheap... inspira 90k.... I cannot afford buy it... huhu
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Aug 8 2012, 09:34 PM)
proton QC is crappy last time we know already. but for Wira / Iswara still the best option of proton.

easy find spare part and fix. now not really, the spare parts also not cheap. that why they fail so hard to sell a car more than 65k. people will turn to KIA, dugong or etc anytime.
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spare part stil cheap,cheaper than the recommended u might end-up buying fake parts
from the latest market trending from CBT site,people who want to buy KIA,dugong & city end-up buying preve


Added on August 8, 2012, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:02 PM)
OH is a LYN member haha ..

Well, just now you mentioned about screw off the 5 years warranty and services. That 5 years warranty and services will cost you 0 for any problem to your car right? So why still go to outside workshop?
I am driving my dad's old Vios, so far no major problem but I am very interest on Preve, has been checking on Preve issues and Proton SC issues from time to time.. hopefully they will improve because I do not wish to visit them often ..  sweat.gif

Well I dunno. People said that Proton car entered SC came out the problem still theres...  sweat.gif
Nope, nowadays Proton using Campro engine which was a joint development between Lotus and Proton, no longer using Japanese engines , so a lot of people doubt its reliability as well.
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that can be said towards early generations of campro pre-2006, which installed in early batch of gen2,same which much worst scenario affecting kia cars pre-2007 where the famous crankshaft bocor thing(u ca ask any nearby pomen about this femes kia engine bocor one, need full overhaul not just top) affecting most of naza ria after 3-4 years of usage

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Aug 8 2012, 11:46 PM)
spare part stil cheap,cheaper than the recommended u might end-up buying fake parts
from the latest market trending from CBT site,people who want to buy KIA,dugong & city end-up buying preve


Added on August 8, 2012, 11:47 pm
that can be said towards early generations of campro pre-2006, which installed in early batch of gen2,same which much worst scenario affecting kia cars pre-2007 where the famous crankshaft bocor thing(u ca ask any nearby pomen  about this femes kia engine bocor one, need full overhaul not just top) affecting most of naza ria after 3-4 years of usage
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Oh i see. I dunno that.. Thank you for telling me smile.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:33 PM)
I thought Inspira are using Mivec Engine >.> Which was a Japanese engine . Are you trolling me?  sweat.gif
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Those ppl dun even have money to buy inspira.
Just ignore them.
On the proton edar spreadsheet already stated MIVEC engine
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 9 2012, 01:14 AM)
Those ppl dun even have money to buy inspira.
Just ignore them.
On the proton edar spreadsheet already stated MIVEC engine
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I thought Inspira is a CKD + rebadge of current generation of Mitsubishi Lancer? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:22 AM)
I thought Inspira is a CKD + rebadge of current generation of Mitsubishi Lancer?  hmm.gif
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http://www.proton-edar.com.my/Experience/M...Specs.aspx#info

stated mivec engine
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proton can go eat shiat. im down with myvi. kthbai
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:14 AM)
Those ppl dun even have money to buy inspira.
Just ignore them.
On the proton edar spreadsheet already stated MIVEC engine
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or maybe they didn't really go and research on Inspira, that is why dunno ^^
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:22 PM)
Yes.. Thats why u see inspira sales not good.. Ppl dun trsut campro
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:33 PM)
I thought Inspira are using Mivec Engine >.> Which was a Japanese engine . Are you trolling me?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:14 AM)
Those ppl dun even have money to buy inspira.
Just ignore them.
On the proton edar spreadsheet already stated MIVEC engine
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:42 AM)
QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Aug 9 2012, 03:12 AM)
or maybe they didn't really go and research on Inspira, that is why dunno ^^
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WTFnotTHISshitAGAIN doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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WTFnotTHISshitAGAIN  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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The neesan guy didnt bring up the photo yet..
So sad.. He know i no money buy inspira cry.gif
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The neesan guy didnt bring up the photo yet..
So sad.. He know i no money buy inspira cry.gif
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Takut 40% jor, that one. Nah nah nah...
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Proton is never serious to grow and improve their perfromance and services. Its now an open debate in cyberspace since PR intends to abolish the "protection" accorded to Proton after all these years if they come to power.

The only people that oppose to this move are those that have indirect benefits to the current arrangement with Proton.

Die well Proton.
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u think everyone wants to own one if not for the high taxes and unreliable public transport? no choices there mate....
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If i have to choose vios or persona at the same price, i choose persona
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Lucky i m a Myvi user ! no problem at All ~
i got saw a video at damansara proton showroom at youtube !
the customer Scold them Kaokao!~
i Drive my frd New Saga and Personal not good as Myvi !
i Drive Vios oso not bad!
better go other car then proton!
ya really said proton is a Crap!!! their car = Bad Quality! vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

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What can I say, most local cars cannot pakai one. Next time when u buy car, it's better for u to settle for a 2nd hand non-local cars than buying new proton/perodua. Personally, I have driven my gf's myvi, have to say that it's so low quality that I can heard so much road noise and when a lorry pass by, it feels like the whole car is having an earthquake inside. Doesn't feels solid
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If i have to choose vios or persona at the same price, i choose persona
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I once long to own a lancer but now langsung no appetite already
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my 13 year old proton wira still can pusing 1 malaysia.
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The TS, RayLaguna is throlling~ huhu.. create a Hype.. and goes silent tongue.gif
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me and my sis bought our car on the same month. I bought neo and my sis bought myvi. almost 4 years alreay passed, i have changed many parts of my car. e.g. absorber, steereng rack, steereng bush, absober link, tyre, oil pump adn on the other hand my sis's car havent change anything yet majorily. so i can say myvi is quiet stable. lots of myvi on the road already so i guess myvi is ok. my major prob for my neo is when raining, the driver's seat carpet will be flooded with water. sucks right> well, not complainig but my next car purchase will not be PROTON anymore no matter how technology advanced they are.
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QUOTE(dreamerf_14 @ Dec 18 2012, 11:37 PM)
me and my sis bought our car on the same month. I bought neo and my sis bought myvi. almost 4 years alreay passed, i have changed many parts of my car. e.g. absorber, steereng rack, steereng bush, absober link, tyre, oil pump adn on the other hand my sis's car havent change anything yet majorily. so i can say myvi is quiet stable. lots of myvi on the road already so i guess myvi is ok. my major prob for my neo is when raining, the driver's seat carpet will be flooded with water. sucks right> well, not complainig but my next car purchase will not be PROTON anymore no matter how technology advanced they are.
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Right! My wife myvi is very solid never break down. I say no no to proton.
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Dec 19 2012, 12:24 AM)
Right! My wife myvi is very solid never break down. I say no no to proton.
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i really have a bit of faith in perodua. but pls think twice if u wanna purchase a proton car. i dun mind strecth a bit for a non-local car as long as it gives me comfort and a piece of mind.
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Dec 19 2012, 12:24 AM)
Right! My wife myvi is very solid never break down. I say no no to proton.
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From all the Perodua cars still able to find on every single parts of daihatsu parts.

If durable maybe can said more durable lah.

Such as kancil until now the body never rust.
But dunno P1 have change the history like proton saga or not. The body rust until change the whole panel & roof top.
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but sometime is on your luck that the car is check by their pro QC officer.

If they dont check!!you will have chance got those problem car ...that you make a big huha..

all car have their problem only see how fast the SC can resolve it...

for proton i own a year 2000 iswara and a saga blm and also a myvi and a perodua sorry big family man alot car...

got my 1st proton for 10 year no problem other than road and wind noise.

Sold already and get a saga BLM no major issue untill now 4 year driving.

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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Dec 19 2012, 09:03 AM)
but sometime is on your luck that the car is check by their pro QC officer.
all car have their problem only see how fast the SC can resolve it...
got my 1st proton for 10 year no problem other than road and wind noise.
Sold already and get a saga BLM no major issue untill now 4 year driving.
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You are really lucky.
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what da...

dey macha, all car manufacturer got their bad thing laa...u scold proton so u think
other manufacturer after sales services is perfect maaa??? dem shoot
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QUOTE(dreamerf_14 @ Dec 18 2012, 11:37 PM)
me and my sis bought our car on the same month. I bought neo and my sis bought myvi. almost 4 years alreay passed, i have changed many parts of my car. e.g. absorber, steereng rack, steereng bush, absober link, tyre, oil pump adn on the other hand my sis's car havent change anything yet majorily. so i can say myvi is quiet stable. lots of myvi on the road already so i guess myvi is ok. my major prob for my neo is when raining, the driver's seat carpet will be flooded with water. sucks right> well, not complainig but my next car purchase will not be PROTON anymore no matter how technology advanced they are.
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As for ur driver carpet wet, u never find the cause of the problem. It is due to the weather sheet that stick to ur door problem. (yeah i agree , proton QC sucks) , but the car have not much issue if u take care of it. Each an every car car have its own problem, just that those branded not dare to say it out.
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Same experience here - I have my faith in the Myvi at the very least. Mine survived a side impact at 80kph from another tin can doh.gif with only minor deformity.

I had 2 other friends in that freak accident and now they all wanna buy Myvi sweat.gif Cos at least we are sure our tin can won't remuk doh.gif

Even so, considering performance on the road etc (exception for kaki tekans) - the Myvi goes far ahead in terms of FC and reliability. Never had any screw ups with Myvi's till today and never heard of any friends screwing up either other than power window rosak. Can't say the same for Proton kakis.
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QUOTE(RayLaguna @ Aug 8 2012, 07:43 PM)
I have had a horrible experience with Proton service centre.

They're irresponsible people who damaged my car and did little to improve the situation.

Forced to buy a Proton and end up with so much frustrations dealing with after sales.

After sales service is every bit as important as before a purchase is made.

Unreliable and unprofessional car manufacturer; I'd love to see them go down.

I'm now stuck with a Proton, unable to dispose of it, or lose RM20k by selling it.

I'm too overwhelmed to write about my story.

But I just want to say to all of you:

I URGE YOU TO THINK TWICE BEFORE PURCHASING A PROTON.
A COMPANY WITH SUCH ATTITUDE TOWARDS CUSTOMERS SHOULD NEVER HAVE SURVIVED.
IT'S A SHAME THEY'RE STILL AROUND.
LIFE IS UNFAIR.
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I also like you, I am stuck with my 10 year old proton.

When I first drove my proton, it was ok. But one day, when i break lightly, the car suddenly skid and spunned. I was concern so i sent it to the service center. At first they detected nothing. Then next thing while i was driving, a motorbike suddenly cut into my lane, I break lightly, then my car skid and spunned again, almost colliding with the motorcyclists. The car behind me hone me and show me his fist, he was angry and thought I was drunk.

Then after 2 months of driving, I notice the outer part of my tire botak. I send to service center again, it was then they found out that the factory never bother to adjust my camper screw, cause the tire to slant.

Wah proton got this kind of tidak apa attitude one ah? Almost killed me, man.

Most car manufacturers champion quality, make quality everybody's responsibility. But do you think proton people push the responsibility of the quality to their QC department? One wonders if proton just tidak apa attitude - assemble the cars and then leave the defects to be corrected by the service centers???


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own Savvy and Myvi

fun to drive - Savvy
comfortable turtle speed ride for family - Myvi

Proton.
When first own savvy.. i go to one Proton Service Centre in Serdang charge me like super expensive for every parts they change. (it's Authorized SC to charge u mark up price for parts) . Service oso so so only..
change to another SC.. follow pricing from Proton(check online for parts price) but to slow as too many people
change to another SC.. follow pricing from Proton. speedy too.. but too far from house (still stick with this one until gain trust from workshop owner. no need put deposit for parts order)

Perodua
SC in Serdang, very good. has been going to them since Kancil then Kenari then Myvi..

last time when not many people coming very nice and friendly. even fix the kangaroo bar on my kenari last time without me complaining. small talk to boss very easily.
now, since Myvi too many. Smile oso don have anymore.


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letting go both car for one car.. no more Malaysian car.. tongue.gif

Savvy for sale.. come come.. PM me for price. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 09:40 AM)
I also like you, I am stuck with my 10 year old proton.

When I first drove my proton, it was ok. But one day, when i break lightly, the car suddenly skid and spunned. I was concern so i sent it to the service center. At first they detected nothing. Then next thing while i was driving, a motorbike suddenly cut into my lane, I break lightly, then my car skid and spunned again, almost colliding with the motorcyclists. The car behind me hone me and show me his fist, he was angry and thought I was drunk.

Then after 2 months of driving, I notice the outer part of my tire botak. I send to service center again, it was then they found out that the factory never bother to adjust my camper screw, cause the tire to slant.

Wah proton got this kind of tidak apa attitude one ah? Almost killed me, man.

Most car manufacturers champion quality, make quality everybody's responsibility. But do you think proton people push the responsibility of the quality to their QC department? One wonders if proton just tidak apa attitude - assemble the cars and then leave the defects to be corrected by the service centers???
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wah piang! you are obviously one ignorant driver. car skid in such situation and you blame proton when obviously it has something to do with the tires.. After 2 months only you go and check out what's wrong with the car? my mum drive 1st 1k also know how to bring the car over to service centre for reallignment cause lari abit...

The tidak apa attitude is from you not proton obviously. Even for KIA it's not recommended to bring back to SC for car allignment and balancing. Don't you know that SC are never good in this?

One more thing.. car skid it wasn't because of your breaking system. It's because your tyre has less contact/grip on the road. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 09:40 AM)
I also like you, I am stuck with my 10 year old proton.

When I first drove my proton, it was ok. But one day, when i break lightly, the car suddenly skid and spunned. I was concern so i sent it to the service center. At first they detected nothing. Then next thing while i was driving, a motorbike suddenly cut into my lane, I break lightly, then my car skid and spunned again, almost colliding with the motorcyclists. The car behind me hone me and show me his fist, he was angry and thought I was drunk.

Then after 2 months of driving, I notice the outer part of my tire botak. I send to service center again, it was then they found out that the factory never bother to adjust my camper screw, cause the tire to slant.

Wah proton got this kind of tidak apa attitude one ah? Almost killed me, man.

Most car manufacturers champion quality, make quality everybody's responsibility. But do you think proton people push the responsibility of the quality to their QC department? One wonders if proton just tidak apa attitude - assemble the cars and then leave the defects to be corrected by the service centers???
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after 10 years youre still sending to Proton SC after youve known their bad service? i only blame you for that. there are many other workshops all around who can do a better job than proton SC. if youre sick and tired of their service go to other shop, you cant claim the warranty anyway so why bother?

the argument whose bad between P1 and P2 will never end. I say it bogs down to luck, if you get a lemon from P1 then you say P1 is bad, it goes to P2 as well.

My experience with proton goes back to my first car - a tiara (yes! a tiara) car that many hates. bought it 2nd hand give me head ache for the first 6 months of usage overhaul, absorbers, bearing, over heat. went to reliable workshop and I have hassle free ride for the next 2 years.

Next come Iswara --> Wira --> Waja + Kelisa (all clocked more than 100Kkm mileage)

never had major issues with proton except waja power window which I had to change once. on the other hand my p2 over the span of 5 years i have changed 2 air cond compressors, which i never had to change in proton only regular servicing. bad luck? may be

back then for p2 SC i will rate them higher than proton SC, however, i noticed their level of service has dropped

oh ya, QC for both manufacturers (im not sure about others since i have not seen it with my own eyes) done in batches not on every car they produced and per batch will contain more that 1000 cars and sampled in the region of 10s.

QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 10:25 AM)
wah piang! you are obviously one ignorant driver. car skid in such situation and you blame proton when obviously it has something to do with the tires.. After 2 months only you go and check out what's wrong with the car? my mum drive 1st 1k also know how to bring the car over to service centre for reallignment cause lari abit...

The tidak apa attitude is from you not proton obviously. Even for KIA it's not recommended to bring back to SC for car allignment and balancing. Don't you know that SC are never good in this?

One more thing.. car skid it wasn't because of your breaking system. It's because your tyre has less contact/grip on the road.  doh.gif
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+1

ignorant is not a bliss

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 11:25 AM)
wah piang! you are obviously one ignorant driver. car skid in such situation and you blame proton when obviously it has something to do with the tires.. After 2 months only you go and check out what's wrong with the car? my mum drive 1st 1k also know how to bring the car over to service centre for reallignment cause lari abit...

The tidak apa attitude is from you not proton obviously. Even for KIA it's not recommended to bring back to SC for car allignment and balancing. Don't you know that SC are never good in this?

One more thing.. car skid it wasn't because of your breaking system. It's because your tyre has less contact/grip on the road.  doh.gif
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Eh, read properly...not only you tidak apa attitude but your eyes also tidak apa attitude. I suspect you are hired by proton plutonic people to scour LYN and seek to condemn proton critics like me.

Its the camper screw, nothing to do with the tyres. The tyres are brand new. The tyre botak at the corner so obviously the tire are at senget angles.

Because I didn't want to be longwinded, btw, I did take my car for balancing and alignment. I even change the tyres. The corner became botak again.

Gosh, you know nothing about cars ! There's a lot of smart alecs here who like to condemn but no jack squat about cars.


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QUOTE(SlomoX @ Dec 19 2012, 11:29 AM)
after 10 years youre still sending to Proton SC after youve known their bad service? i only blame you for that. there are many other workshops all around who can do a better job than proton SC. if youre sick and tired of their service go to other shop, you cant claim the warranty anyway so why bother?

the argument whose bad between P1 and P2 will never end. I say it bogs down to luck, if you get a lemon from P1 then you say P1 is bad, it goes to P2 as well.

My experience with proton goes back to my first car - a tiara (yes! a tiara) car that many hates. bought it 2nd hand give me head ache for the first 6 months of usage overhaul, absorbers, bearing, over heat. went to reliable workshop and I have hassle free ride for the next 2 years.

Next come Iswara --> Wira --> Waja + Kelisa (all clocked more than 100Kkm mileage)

never had major issues with proton except waja power window which I had to change once. on the other hand my p2 over the span of 5 years i have changed 2 air cond compressors, which i never had to change in proton only regular servicing. bad luck? may be

back then for p2 SC i will rate them higher than proton SC, however, i noticed their level of service has dropped

oh ya, QC for both manufacturers (im not sure about others since i have not seen it with my own eyes) done in batches not on every car they produced and per batch will contain more that 1000 cars and sampled in the region of 10s.
+1

ignorant is not a bliss
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-1 for kidmax.

Biasness is not a bliss.

He works for proton...he is a proton spy.

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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Dec 19 2012, 09:03 AM)
but sometime is on your luck that the car is check by their pro QC officer.

If they dont check!!you will have chance got those problem car ...that you make a big huha..

all car have their problem only see how fast the SC can resolve it...

for proton i own a year 2000 iswara and a saga blm and also a myvi and a perodua sorry big family man alot car...

got my 1st proton for 10 year no problem other than road and wind noise.

Sold already and get a saga BLM no major issue untill now 4 year driving.
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been using numbers of proton..from saga lmss, blm, 3 gen of perdana, old satria..still have some faith in p1, especially neo and inspira. smile.gif
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post Dec 19 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 10:47 AM)
Eh, read properly...not only you tidak apa attitude but your eyes also tidak apa attitude. I suspect you are hired by proton plutonic people to scour LYN and seek to condemn proton critics like me.

Its the camper screw, nothing to do with the tyres. The tyres are brand new. The tyre botak at the corner so obviously the tire are at senget angles.

Because I didn't want to be longwinded, btw, I did take my car for balancing and alignment. I even change the tyres. The corner became botak again.
doh.gif i rest my case. Yes I'm hired to proton to be in lyn to condemn ignorant drivers about their lack of knowledge on what to do. You did bring for alignment and balancing? This... itself... telling me that you are lying... If you really did do allignment the thing would not cause your tayar to go botak.

Now i know where your RM5k of fixing come from. It isn't the brake.. it's your lack of knowledge obviously.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 10:55 AM)
doh.gif  i rest my case. Yes I'm hired to proton to be in lyn to condemn ignorant drivers about their lack of knowledge on what to do. You did bring for alignment and balancing? This... itself... telling me that you are lying...  If you really did do allignment the thing would not cause your tayar to go botak.

Now i know where your RM5k of fixing come from. It isn't the brake.. it's your lack of knowledge obviously.

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i agree with your 'lack of knowledge'. I also had a proton wira, it may have some problem here and there, but they are damn cheap to repair! once you did.. it does last a few years. even when i converted to 4g93t.. it is still the cheapest turbo car to do maintenance!

when you know nothing.. bersedia la.. kena potong like no tomorrow..
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 11:55 AM)
doh.gif  i rest my case. Yes I'm hired to proton to be in lyn to condemn ignorant drivers about their lack of knowledge on what to do. You did bring for alignment and balancing? This... itself... telling me that you are lying...  If you really did do allignment the thing would not cause your tayar to go botak.

Now i know where your RM5k of fixing come from. It isn't the brake.. it's your lack of knowledge obviously.

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yeah you're the liar.

The 5k is other things dealing with the disc brek and shock absorbers.

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Whats the 5k got to do with the camper?????

You obviously google search for it and now you act like you know the world about cars.

I DID THE ALIGHMENT. READ MY LIPS. Or wear thicker glasses.

I SAID THE CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, not the WHOLE TYRE BOTAK. Do you read my post or not or you just selectively read it to flame me????

WHEN CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, means the camper not adjusted properly cause the tyre to senget. Hey if I knew about this, I will be opening my own LIM TAYAR SHOP. You are such an idiot...of course I dunno much about cars so why i bother to send my car to mechanic work shop.

I may lack knowledge but from this experience I know damn well about what cause my car to spun.

No wonder you are driving old tiaras and wiras because you spend so much money on repairs you can't afford japanese and continental cars.

Oh go ahead and show your national pride, stick to the proton...but don't stuff down other people's throat.


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QUOTE(wailup @ Dec 19 2012, 11:58 AM)
i agree with your 'lack of knowledge'. I also had a proton wira, it may have some problem here and there, but they are damn cheap to repair! once you did.. it does last a few years. even when i converted to 4g93t.. it is still the cheapest turbo car to do maintenance!

when you know nothing.. bersedia la.. kena potong like no tomorrow..
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Really? You lack of knowledge....makes you stick to proton.

You and kidmax must be from the Proton Lobby association.

Congrats in your "bright bright" future with proton aka lack of knowledge car...can't even build their own engines..for goodness sakes. Need to buy them from Petronas. Gosh.



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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:08 AM)
yeah you're the liar.

The 5k is other things dealing with the disc brek and shock absorbers.

doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

Whats the 5k got to do with the camper?????

You obviously google search for it and now you act like you know the world about cars.

I DID THE ALIGHMENT. READ MY LIPS. Or wear thicker glasses.

I SAID THE CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, not the WHOLE TYRE BOTAK. Do you read my post or not or you just selectively read it to flame me????

WHEN CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, means the camper not adjusted properly cause the tyre to senget. Hey if I knew about this, I will be opening my own LIM TAYAR SHOP. You are such an idiot...of course I dunno much about cars so why i bother to send my car to mechanic work shop.

I may lack knowledge but from this experience I know damn well about what cause my car to spun.

No wonder you are driving old tiaras and wiras because you spend so much money on repairs you can't afford japanese and continental cars.

Oh go ahead and show your national pride, stick to the proton...but don't stuff down other people's throat.
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1st.. it's not camper
2nd.. When you did DO YOUR ALIGNMENT.. that nut will be adjusted. Now who's lying?
3rd.. You are just playing the blaming game for a mistake done by yourself. No matter what car you drive.. With the same attitude.. It will still cause you problem.

Nuff said. I wonder how long do you bring your pair of tires to the shop for tyre rotation and alignment.

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talking about alignment, last time paid and do alignment and balancing few time at proton sc. they just cannot do it right after i drives.

end up bring it to a nearby workshop, done it at ease only, and no problem at all. they even ask me who do this kind of alignment and balancing lol.
and the price is less than half.

plus i hate their staff lppl and tidak apa attitute when doing job, especially when u want to claim warranty.
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I drove a Myvi for 4 years. Now sold and swore never buy a Perodua even if i have to eat maggi mee for 9 years. Mawi is a piece of overpriced rattling floating junk.
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:08 AM)
Congrats in your "bright bright" future with proton aka lack of knowledge car...can't even build their own engines..for goodness sakes. Need to buy them from Petronas. Gosh.
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Living under the rock for the last 10 years? ph34r.gif

If buying engine from Petronas makes Proton a loser, I wonder what does that make Perodua?

Proton have crappy QC, but Perodua is not much better. Right out the showroom, steering column clicking, aircon vent broken, brake caliper ticking etc. etc.


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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 11:12 AM)
1st.. it's not camper
2nd.. When you did DO YOUR ALIGNMENT.. that nut will be adjusted. Now who's lying?
3rd.. You are just playing the blaming game for a mistake done by yourself. No matter what car you drive.. With the same attitude.. It will still cause you problem.

Nuff said. I wonder how long do you bring your pair of tires to the shop for tyre rotation and alignment.
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Dey Proton Spy!! Proton ade marah that you bought a Kimchi tak?? tongue.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 12:12 PM)
1st.. it's not camper
2nd.. When you did DO YOUR ALIGNMENT.. that nut will be adjusted. Now who's lying?
3rd.. You are just playing the blaming game for a mistake done by yourself. No matter what car you drive.. With the same attitude.. It will still cause you problem.

Nuff said. I wonder how long do you bring your pair of tires to the shop for tyre rotation and alignment.
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Nuff said, you can keep your proton for another 1 century. Good luck.

No wonder you still drive proton, must have spend so much on it until can't afford a better one.


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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 12:56 PM)
Living under the rock for the last 10 years? ph34r.gif

If buying engine from Petronas makes Proton a loser, I wonder what does that make Perodua?

Proton have crappy QC, but Perodua is not much better. Right out the showroom, steering column clicking, aircon vent broken, brake caliper ticking etc. etc.


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Dey Proton Spy!! Proton ade marah that you bought a Kimchi tak??  tongue.gif
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If yuo say i live under a rock, then you must have some badluck talisman sticking down your throat.

My brother's Myvi don't have your kind of problem. My first car was a perodua kancil, I never get those kind of problems like yours.

Perodua and Naza cars are not original cars. They just stamped on daihatsu and kia cars. Its like me taking the Lamborgini franchise and stamping "alvinari" on the cars. Kapeesh?

Kidmax is not a proton spy, he is a proton nutcase.

25 years in the car industry and proton can't even make their own engines??? If you want to stick to proton and be under the cave, go on.....because its a caveman car. Go back to the dark ages lah...

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 11:56 AM)
Dey Proton Spy!! Proton ade marah that you bought a Kimchi tak??  tongue.gif
Dey I ninja.. hiding..no one know i change from Nasi lemak to Kimchi. Hahahaha. Anyway the kimchi car impress few of my colleagues. now 2 of them already bought the car. My boss most likely will be getting it as well. LOL


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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 12:47 PM)
Nuff said, you can keep your proton for another 1 century. Good luck.

No wonder you still drive proton, must have spend so much on it until can't afford a better one.
Unlike you keeping the car for 10 years because not making enough to change a better ride.. i change from Kancil > BLM > Savvy > Forte in 6 years time. I'm not sure whether my current ride will last me 5 years or not but if I do see the next best buy i might just change it in another year or two. Oh yeah.. The kancil and Savvy had given me lots of experience in getting a car fix and knowing more about cars... Unlike you who play the blaming game and immediately blame proton for your own fault of not doing the proper alignment causing your tyre to go botak. AGAIN! it isn't your damn brakes problem.. It's your mentality. At least i know what is a camber nut as oppose to you who doesn't even know how to differentiate a camper and camber.

My BLM had never given me any issue and was diriving it until 60k km. Sending them back to Proton SC in Glenmarie before all the while before i sold it off for a 2nd hand Savvy.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 01:55 PM)
Dey I ninja.. hiding..no one know i change from Nasi lemak to Kimchi. Hahahaha. Anyway the kimchi car impress few of my colleagues. now 2 of them already bought the car. My boss most likely will be getting it as well. LOL
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Yes while your boss and colleagues all get nice rides...go on and drive your caveman car...Proton Plutonic..aka Power of Junks.

Live life on the edge...on skid row...


SKIIIIIDDDDDDD.....Bang ! Good luck with yer car....better buy more life insurance.
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:03 PM)
Yes while your boss and colleagues all get nice rides...go on and drive your caveman car...Proton Plutonic..aka Power of Junks.

Live life on the edge...on skid row...
SKIIIIIDDDDDDD.....Bang ! Good luck with yer car....better buy more life insurance.
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Maybe you should read the whole post before commenting, especially the part what he and his colleagues are driving.

Posting while angry never gets you anywhere.
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facepalm zzz so childish

if u dont like proton go away no one ask u to buy proton
u can afford or not who give a shit zzz

been using my 20 year old saga, no problem, not even overhaul has been make
i use it to travel kedah -- KL with my 20 year old saga, no problem so whats the deal?
it's just that i need around 5 hours to go KL, while others maybe 4 hours, thats all but i got there

now bought another saga flx, after 7 month gearbox problem, but does CVT made by proton?
they changed me new gearbox already within a week, the matters is SC here not QC, and it's free why should i be mad?
well apart from gearbox damaged after 7 motnh really pissing me of though haha
i believe nowadays car use CVT already no? except GODLY dugong i think, correct me if im wrong

i think most people just want a car that 'isi minyak jalan', no need maintenance walaweh blush.gif
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Y wanna waste time toking wif ppl who cant reason? forget it.... he cant even read... poor thing... pl forgiv him
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:19 PM

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.... when he gets a T or H, and it breaks down... he's going to say... T & H go dai.... =D



a car is not without maintenance...... aiyaiyai.... why so many people keep thinking... buy car 50k... cost of running is only fuel......... bulls***t..... stuffs break down. FIX dammit!
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thats why.. go get cars with free maintenance.. no headache for 3 years like mazda..

but wait.. still i need to pay for my brake pad and tyre when they wear off lei.. kekekek
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use tayar mati ok ka? tongue.gif or use this

http://www.gizmag.com/bridgestone-airless-tires/20710/
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Car skid blame the car not the tyres ! thumbup.gif

Btw below is a video of my friends new perodua! Dunno how to show it.

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post Dec 19 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 02:13 PM)
Maybe you should read the whole post before commenting, especially the part what he and his colleagues are driving.

Posting while angry never gets you anywhere.
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Who cares?

Kidmax is a smart alec jerk who flames other people. Can't even say things constructively without posting insults.

I know for sure, kidmax being a proton ultra, his car is not goint to go far....it will break down for sure. Protons, the power of tidak apa attitude.
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what i can see...

1 - my wife myvi never brokedown
2- my sister myvi never brokedown
3- my relatif vios never brokedown
4- my <insert urself> <T/H/M?etc> never brokedown

hehehe
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post Dec 19 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2012, 06:50 PM)
Your Waja CPS? What happened?

I agree with Jasonloh, some SCs are terrible, but some are not that bad. Need to hear your story first.
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about SC i dont think only proton`s suck. there were other brand SC that suck to.
i think malaysia service mentality as a whole is really low.
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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Dec 19 2012, 02:53 PM)
Car skid blame the car not the tyres !  thumbup.gif

Btw below is a video of my friends new perodua! Dunno how to show it.
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new car kaa? wallaweh...ini macam jangan pegi SC loh...pegi buat aduan kat persatuan pengguna loh...beli kereta baru itu macam...haiyaa...

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QUOTE(joefbi @ Dec 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
new car kaa? wallaweh...ini macam jangan pegi SC loh...pegi buat aduan kat persatuan pengguna loh...beli kereta baru itu macam...haiyaa...
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Yeah new car. Kasihan my friend. When raining cant use. doh.gif

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even honda SC sux big time tongue.gif

1- the indian guy with accord, brake issue
2- the malay lady driving hybrid civic, hybrid battery issue

i wonder how bad is the SC n who is going to go loud againts proton, nobody does! hahaha...


Added on December 19, 2012, 3:28 pmeven honda SC sux big time tongue.gif

1- the indian guy with accord, brake issue
2- the malay lady driving hybrid civic, hybrid battery issue

i wonder how bad is the SC n who is going to go loud againts proton, nobody does! hahaha...

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QUOTE(jakal sombong @ Dec 19 2012, 03:19 PM)
about SC i dont think only proton`s suck. there were other brand SC that suck to.
i think malaysia service mentality as a whole is really low.
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Malaysian SCs, regardless of brand, is out to burn their customers.

Who don't have consumer protection like the States. Over there every little thing the consumers will sue your pants off, the companies are very careful. Case in point, the overexaggerated fuel consumption figures by Kia. If it happen in bolehland, the only noises made are made in LYN.
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 03:15 PM)
Who cares?

Kidmax is a smart alec jerk who flames other people. Can't even say things constructively without posting insults.

I know for sure, kidmax being a proton ultra, his car is not goint to go far....it will break down for sure. Protons, the power of tidak apa attitude.
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Haha you are really good at twisting and turning your words. Now I'm the one flaming and ain't you the one who are lack of knowledge and posting craps without facts eh?
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 03:15 PM)
Who cares?

Kidmax is a smart alec jerk who flames other people. Can't even say things constructively without posting insults.

I know for sure, kidmax being a proton ultra, his car is not goint to go far....it will break down for sure. Protons, the power of tidak apa attitude.
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So childish..... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 03:30 PM)
Malaysian SCs, regardless of brand, is out to burn their customers.

Who don't have consumer protection like the States. Over there every little thing the consumers will sue your pants off, the companies are very careful. Case in point, the overexaggerated fuel consumption figures by Kia. If it happen in bolehland, the only noises made are made in LYN.
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i think must of our problem as malaysian is were complaining @ the wrong person.
noises @ lyn what difference does it make.
@ the states they bark @ they right tree.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 04:32 PM)
Haha you are really good at twisting and turning your words. Now I'm the one flaming and ain't you the one who are lack of knowledge and posting craps without facts eh?
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Yes your proton is crap...hahahahah

That is one fact. No twist.

Maybe you should flame your engine, its going to go obsolete.


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So childish..... doh.gif  doh.gif
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Yeah tell me about it, proton ultras...they are so nationalisitc that they have low self esteem until they go all the way thinking their proton plutonics are lamborginis.

Hahahahahaha.

Bodohnya penyokong-penyokong proton ultra. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Dec 19 2012, 03:39 PM)
Yes your proton is crap...hahahahah

That is one fact. No twist.

Maybe you should flame your engine, its going to go obsolete.
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Haha okay okay. Seems like you are "very knowledgeable" with proton engine eh? eh wait.. so campro is manufactured by whom? Daihatsu eh? The more you post the more ppl would know, you are just here to bash Proton. Well it ain't that strong but for Proton they did pretty well after the 1st gen of Gen2. Only the ignorants will still talk about power window failure. I bet it's you?
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 04:43 PM)
Haha okay okay. Seems like you are "very knowledgeable" with proton engine eh? eh wait.. so campro is manufactured by whom? Daihatsu eh? The more you post the more ppl would know, you are just here to bash Proton. Well it ain't that strong but for Proton they did pretty well after the 1st gen of Gen2. Only the ignorants will still talk about power window failure. I bet it's you?
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Wah, you know me so well? Proton ultra...Protokasa idiots.

Now i realise how "intelligent" you r...you really believe that campro engine is made by daihatsu. Gosh, I am not giving you the answer.

Dunno why the protokasa people (proton ultras) always like to put words in people mouth. Eh I am not Lim guan eng lah.
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