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 I vow to never buy a Proton again..., ...even if I have to eat bread for 9 yrs

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Alvin330000421
post Dec 19 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(RayLaguna @ Aug 8 2012, 07:43 PM)
I have had a horrible experience with Proton service centre.

They're irresponsible people who damaged my car and did little to improve the situation.

Forced to buy a Proton and end up with so much frustrations dealing with after sales.

After sales service is every bit as important as before a purchase is made.

Unreliable and unprofessional car manufacturer; I'd love to see them go down.

I'm now stuck with a Proton, unable to dispose of it, or lose RM20k by selling it.

I'm too overwhelmed to write about my story.

But I just want to say to all of you:

I URGE YOU TO THINK TWICE BEFORE PURCHASING A PROTON.
A COMPANY WITH SUCH ATTITUDE TOWARDS CUSTOMERS SHOULD NEVER HAVE SURVIVED.
IT'S A SHAME THEY'RE STILL AROUND.
LIFE IS UNFAIR.
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I also like you, I am stuck with my 10 year old proton.

When I first drove my proton, it was ok. But one day, when i break lightly, the car suddenly skid and spunned. I was concern so i sent it to the service center. At first they detected nothing. Then next thing while i was driving, a motorbike suddenly cut into my lane, I break lightly, then my car skid and spunned again, almost colliding with the motorcyclists. The car behind me hone me and show me his fist, he was angry and thought I was drunk.

Then after 2 months of driving, I notice the outer part of my tire botak. I send to service center again, it was then they found out that the factory never bother to adjust my camper screw, cause the tire to slant.

Wah proton got this kind of tidak apa attitude one ah? Almost killed me, man.

Most car manufacturers champion quality, make quality everybody's responsibility. But do you think proton people push the responsibility of the quality to their QC department? One wonders if proton just tidak apa attitude - assemble the cars and then leave the defects to be corrected by the service centers???


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post Dec 19 2012, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 11:25 AM)
wah piang! you are obviously one ignorant driver. car skid in such situation and you blame proton when obviously it has something to do with the tires.. After 2 months only you go and check out what's wrong with the car? my mum drive 1st 1k also know how to bring the car over to service centre for reallignment cause lari abit...

The tidak apa attitude is from you not proton obviously. Even for KIA it's not recommended to bring back to SC for car allignment and balancing. Don't you know that SC are never good in this?

One more thing.. car skid it wasn't because of your breaking system. It's because your tyre has less contact/grip on the road.  doh.gif
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Eh, read properly...not only you tidak apa attitude but your eyes also tidak apa attitude. I suspect you are hired by proton plutonic people to scour LYN and seek to condemn proton critics like me.

Its the camper screw, nothing to do with the tyres. The tyres are brand new. The tyre botak at the corner so obviously the tire are at senget angles.

Because I didn't want to be longwinded, btw, I did take my car for balancing and alignment. I even change the tyres. The corner became botak again.

Gosh, you know nothing about cars ! There's a lot of smart alecs here who like to condemn but no jack squat about cars.


Added on December 19, 2012, 10:49 am
QUOTE(SlomoX @ Dec 19 2012, 11:29 AM)
after 10 years youre still sending to Proton SC after youve known their bad service? i only blame you for that. there are many other workshops all around who can do a better job than proton SC. if youre sick and tired of their service go to other shop, you cant claim the warranty anyway so why bother?

the argument whose bad between P1 and P2 will never end. I say it bogs down to luck, if you get a lemon from P1 then you say P1 is bad, it goes to P2 as well.

My experience with proton goes back to my first car - a tiara (yes! a tiara) car that many hates. bought it 2nd hand give me head ache for the first 6 months of usage overhaul, absorbers, bearing, over heat. went to reliable workshop and I have hassle free ride for the next 2 years.

Next come Iswara --> Wira --> Waja + Kelisa (all clocked more than 100Kkm mileage)

never had major issues with proton except waja power window which I had to change once. on the other hand my p2 over the span of 5 years i have changed 2 air cond compressors, which i never had to change in proton only regular servicing. bad luck? may be

back then for p2 SC i will rate them higher than proton SC, however, i noticed their level of service has dropped

oh ya, QC for both manufacturers (im not sure about others since i have not seen it with my own eyes) done in batches not on every car they produced and per batch will contain more that 1000 cars and sampled in the region of 10s.
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-1 for kidmax.

Biasness is not a bliss.

He works for proton...he is a proton spy.

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post Dec 19 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 11:55 AM)
doh.gif  i rest my case. Yes I'm hired to proton to be in lyn to condemn ignorant drivers about their lack of knowledge on what to do. You did bring for alignment and balancing? This... itself... telling me that you are lying...  If you really did do allignment the thing would not cause your tayar to go botak.

Now i know where your RM5k of fixing come from. It isn't the brake.. it's your lack of knowledge obviously.

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yeah you're the liar.

The 5k is other things dealing with the disc brek and shock absorbers.

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Whats the 5k got to do with the camper?????

You obviously google search for it and now you act like you know the world about cars.

I DID THE ALIGHMENT. READ MY LIPS. Or wear thicker glasses.

I SAID THE CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, not the WHOLE TYRE BOTAK. Do you read my post or not or you just selectively read it to flame me????

WHEN CORNER OF THE TYRE BOTAK, means the camper not adjusted properly cause the tyre to senget. Hey if I knew about this, I will be opening my own LIM TAYAR SHOP. You are such an idiot...of course I dunno much about cars so why i bother to send my car to mechanic work shop.

I may lack knowledge but from this experience I know damn well about what cause my car to spun.

No wonder you are driving old tiaras and wiras because you spend so much money on repairs you can't afford japanese and continental cars.

Oh go ahead and show your national pride, stick to the proton...but don't stuff down other people's throat.


Added on December 19, 2012, 11:11 am
QUOTE(wailup @ Dec 19 2012, 11:58 AM)
i agree with your 'lack of knowledge'. I also had a proton wira, it may have some problem here and there, but they are damn cheap to repair! once you did.. it does last a few years. even when i converted to 4g93t.. it is still the cheapest turbo car to do maintenance!

when you know nothing.. bersedia la.. kena potong like no tomorrow..
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Really? You lack of knowledge....makes you stick to proton.

You and kidmax must be from the Proton Lobby association.

Congrats in your "bright bright" future with proton aka lack of knowledge car...can't even build their own engines..for goodness sakes. Need to buy them from Petronas. Gosh.



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post Dec 19 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 12:12 PM)
1st.. it's not camper
2nd.. When you did DO YOUR ALIGNMENT.. that nut will be adjusted. Now who's lying?
3rd.. You are just playing the blaming game for a mistake done by yourself. No matter what car you drive.. With the same attitude.. It will still cause you problem.

Nuff said. I wonder how long do you bring your pair of tires to the shop for tyre rotation and alignment.
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Nuff said, you can keep your proton for another 1 century. Good luck.

No wonder you still drive proton, must have spend so much on it until can't afford a better one.


Added on December 19, 2012, 12:51 pm
QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 12:56 PM)
Living under the rock for the last 10 years? ph34r.gif

If buying engine from Petronas makes Proton a loser, I wonder what does that make Perodua?

Proton have crappy QC, but Perodua is not much better. Right out the showroom, steering column clicking, aircon vent broken, brake caliper ticking etc. etc.


Added on December 19, 2012, 12:25 pm

Dey Proton Spy!! Proton ade marah that you bought a Kimchi tak??  tongue.gif
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If yuo say i live under a rock, then you must have some badluck talisman sticking down your throat.

My brother's Myvi don't have your kind of problem. My first car was a perodua kancil, I never get those kind of problems like yours.

Perodua and Naza cars are not original cars. They just stamped on daihatsu and kia cars. Its like me taking the Lamborgini franchise and stamping "alvinari" on the cars. Kapeesh?

Kidmax is not a proton spy, he is a proton nutcase.

25 years in the car industry and proton can't even make their own engines??? If you want to stick to proton and be under the cave, go on.....because its a caveman car. Go back to the dark ages lah...

This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Dec 19 2012, 12:55 PM
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post Dec 19 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 01:55 PM)
Dey I ninja.. hiding..no one know i change from Nasi lemak to Kimchi. Hahahaha. Anyway the kimchi car impress few of my colleagues. now 2 of them already bought the car. My boss most likely will be getting it as well. LOL
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Yes while your boss and colleagues all get nice rides...go on and drive your caveman car...Proton Plutonic..aka Power of Junks.

Live life on the edge...on skid row...


SKIIIIIDDDDDDD.....Bang ! Good luck with yer car....better buy more life insurance.
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post Dec 19 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 19 2012, 02:13 PM)
Maybe you should read the whole post before commenting, especially the part what he and his colleagues are driving.

Posting while angry never gets you anywhere.
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Who cares?

Kidmax is a smart alec jerk who flames other people. Can't even say things constructively without posting insults.

I know for sure, kidmax being a proton ultra, his car is not goint to go far....it will break down for sure. Protons, the power of tidak apa attitude.
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post Dec 19 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 04:32 PM)
Haha you are really good at twisting and turning your words. Now I'm the one flaming and ain't you the one who are lack of knowledge and posting craps without facts eh?
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Yes your proton is crap...hahahahah

That is one fact. No twist.

Maybe you should flame your engine, its going to go obsolete.


Added on December 19, 2012, 3:40 pm
QUOTE(muslayer @ Dec 19 2012, 04:36 PM)
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So childish..... doh.gif  doh.gif
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Yeah tell me about it, proton ultras...they are so nationalisitc that they have low self esteem until they go all the way thinking their proton plutonics are lamborginis.

Hahahahahaha.

Bodohnya penyokong-penyokong proton ultra. doh.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 19 2012, 04:43 PM)
Haha okay okay. Seems like you are "very knowledgeable" with proton engine eh? eh wait.. so campro is manufactured by whom? Daihatsu eh? The more you post the more ppl would know, you are just here to bash Proton. Well it ain't that strong but for Proton they did pretty well after the 1st gen of Gen2. Only the ignorants will still talk about power window failure. I bet it's you?
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Wah, you know me so well? Proton ultra...Protokasa idiots.

Now i realise how "intelligent" you r...you really believe that campro engine is made by daihatsu. Gosh, I am not giving you the answer.

Dunno why the protokasa people (proton ultras) always like to put words in people mouth. Eh I am not Lim guan eng lah.

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