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post Aug 8 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Aug 8 2012, 11:14 PM)
SK will open One South Mall soon  rolleyes.gif
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I don't think One South will make it.

Bukit Serdang there also have new mall coming up.
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 8 2012, 11:25 PM)
I don't think One South will make it.

Bukit Serdang there also have new mall coming up.
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Bukit Serdang new mall?
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post Aug 9 2012, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 8 2012, 11:04 PM)
Probably just a little bit of attraction but not much. On Semenyih, IMHO it has future potential especially with SE and SEH coming along
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Setia Emas and Setia Eco Hill is definitely booming semenyih with about 1000 acres of development land. other developments also happening along Jalan Semenyih.
eg. Kiara business centre (entrance of Bandar Sunway Semenyih), pelangi semenyih 2 (by mkh), beside tesco as well (looks like mix development).

personally, i prefer to invest into "up and coming" rather than mature area due to the fact that expensive properties will be the 1st victim if economy crisis attacks.
just my 2 cent
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post Aug 9 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 8 2012, 09:35 PM)
Even upcoming areas also very expensive. Holding power must be strong as it will take a while to appreciate. Furthermore rental yield nowadays is very low...
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In "general" the upcoming area is cheaper than mature area...but agree with you there are some upcoming areas that sell at high prices such as Sierra 16 at southern part of Puchong.


Added on August 9, 2012, 12:11 am
QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 8 2012, 09:25 PM)
Upcoming: Setia Alam, Kota Kemuning (Rimbayu, Alam Impian etc), Semenyih, Kajang, Puchong, Bukit Jalil, Cyberjaya.
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For me, Setia Alam is consider mature....but that does not means that property prices in this area will not going up further.

Puchong...also mature if you are talking about bandar wawasan, bandar puteri areas....Just my 2 cents.

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post Aug 9 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(seanlee31 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:04 AM)
Setia Emas and Setia Eco Hill is definitely booming semenyih with about 1000 acres of development land. other developments also happening along Jalan Semenyih.
eg. Kiara business centre (entrance of Bandar Sunway Semenyih), pelangi semenyih 2 (by mkh), beside tesco as well (looks like mix development).

personally, i prefer to invest into "up and coming" rather than mature area due to the fact that expensive properties will be the 1st victim if economy crisis attacks.
just my 2 cent
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IMHO,
During good times, "up and coming" area may do better (if with right price).
During bad times, matured area is safer (if it can't be sell at a good price and you're thinking to hold it, it can still be rent out) ... "up and coming" area, might be no more coming development for the next x number of years, and it may not matured enough to rent out reasonably.

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post Aug 9 2012, 01:50 AM

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Basically the planning of the township determines my decision. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:22 AM

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Any ppl here attend the property convention last weekend?

I still recall Milan Dorsi suggested to invest in the mature areas and those areas with "confirmed" infrastructure going to be inplace such as the future LRT extension line. He disagree investing in upcoming areas such as Cyberjaya due to “supply > demand” since there are since still many vacant lands around that areas.

One of his student, who currently stay in Subang, invested 2 units of service apartments in Cyberjaya and end up unable to get any tenant.

So he suggested his student to rent out his house in Subang and move to Cyberjaya to stay there instead. Even if he able to rent it out eventually, the rental rate in Cyberjaya will be lower than those in mature areas.

Hope no offend to the Cyberjaya kaki here.

P/S: I am not promoting Milan Dohsi but agreed with he said

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QUOTE(kcp3333 @ Aug 9 2012, 10:22 AM)
Any ppl here attend the property convention last weekend?

I still recall Milan Dorsi suggested to invest in the mature areas and those areas with "confirmed" infrastructure going to be inplace such as the future LRT extension line. He disagree investing in upcoming areas such as Cyberjaya due to “supply > demand” since there are since still many vacant lands around that areas.

One of his student, who currently stay in Subang, invested 2 units of service apartments in Cyberjaya and end up unable to get any tenant.

So he suggested his student to rent out his house in Subang and move to Cyberjaya to stay there instead. Even if he able to rent it out eventually, the rental rate in Cyberjaya will be lower than those in mature areas.

Hope no offend to the Cyberjaya kaki here.

P/S: I am not promoting Milan Dohsi but agreed with he said
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That sounds make sense .. what else did he suggest?
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Aug 9 2012, 11:00 AM)
That sounds make sense .. what else did he suggest?
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He suggest if we want to know more, pls pay to attend his full time course.
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:10 AM

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i think it depends on what u want. u want rental play, go buy matured areas. u want lots of capital appreciation, go for up n coming
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(kcp3333 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:09 AM)
He suggest if we want to know more, pls pay to attend his full time course.
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%#$@*^% laugh.gif
By the way, that sounds make sense also smile.gif


Added on August 9, 2012, 11:33 am
QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 9 2012, 11:10 AM)
i think it depends on what u want. u want rental play, go buy matured areas. u want lots of capital appreciation, go for up n coming
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During bull run, many calls "high risk high return" .. but have forgotten "high return high risk" ..
My 0.2 cents.

By the way, I voted for "Invest in both ..." drool.gif .. I also blur blur sometimes since we were already quite some times and still in bull run.
Personally, I think "up n coming" can split further .. after all, luck factor is also important.
My 0.1 cents

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post Aug 9 2012, 08:47 PM

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Semenyih's recent bloom really something to look for. Once the traffic issue resolved, price surely go spike.
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post Aug 9 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Aug 9 2012, 08:47 PM)
Semenyih's recent bloom really something to look for. Once the traffic issue resolved, price surely go spike.
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Semenyih quite near to Broga, if the incinerator project is on, then no good
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(kcp3333 @ Aug 9 2012, 10:22 AM)
One of his student, who currently stay in Subang, invested 2 units of service apartments in Cyberjaya and end up unable to get any tenant.

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Mind to share which service partment in CBJ? and how much the rental expected?

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post Aug 9 2012, 11:58 PM

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http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/market_trends.aspx?nid=5117

Top Ten areas based on the number of search in iproperty:

1) Bangsar 62,895 2.21%
2) Puchong 56,247 1.98%
3) Cheras 45234 1.59%
4) Petaling Jaya 37,980 1.33%
5) Shah Alam 27,216 0.96%
6) Mont Kiara 24,744 0.87%
7) Subang Jaya 24,633 0.86%
8) Klang 21,525 0.75%
9)A Kepong 20,164 0.71%
10) Ampang 19,458 0.68%

Most are mature areas..

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post Aug 10 2012, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 9 2012, 09:11 PM)
Semenyih quite near to Broga, if the incinerator project is on, then no good
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Holy shit. where exactly is the proposed incinerator project, UFO-ET kor? Will affect Setia Emas and Setia Eco Hills? Hopefully wont be another Aman Perdana case.

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 10 2012, 12:21 AM)
Holy shit. where exactly is the proposed incinerator project, UFO-ET kor? Will affect Setia Emas and Setia Eco Hills? Hopefully wont be another Aman Perdana case.
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I just found this, project stop liao. But KL sampah problem not yet solved. Cancelling this project cost us 200 mil, I think it's time for us to Keeeeeep supporting the current regimn thumbup.gif

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1216&sec=nation
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/317100



Dun tell me they are moving it back to Kampung Muhibbah? This issue has been haunting Puchong folks for years. sad.gif

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post Aug 10 2012, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 10 2012, 12:21 AM)
Holy shit. where exactly is the proposed incinerator project, UFO-ET kor? Will affect Setia Emas and Setia Eco Hills? Hopefully wont be another Aman Perdana case.
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What is the diffenrence between setia emas n eco hill.
Btw since sp setia is now owned by pnb,board of director will remain unchange for 3 years. Thereafter tan sri may step down and probably sp setia wun be as good as they use to be now.
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 10 2012, 02:25 AM)
I just found this, project stop liao. But KL sampah problem not yet solved. Cancelling this project cost us 200 mil, I think it's time for us to Keeeeeep supporting the current regimn  thumbup.gif

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1216&sec=nation
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/317100
Dun tell me they are moving it back to Kampung Muhibbah? This issue has been haunting Puchong folks for years.  sad.gif
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With all the developments in Puchong, I doubt it. But dunno where is the next proposed location


Added on August 10, 2012, 8:04 am
QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 10 2012, 07:49 AM)
What is the diffenrence between setia emas n eco hill.
Btw since sp setia is now owned by pnb,board of director will remain unchange for 3 years. Thereafter tan sri may step down and probably sp setia wun be as good as they use to be now.
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Setia Emas will be like Setia Alam while Setia
Eco Hills will be like Setia Eco Park. Both will be in Semenyih.

This post has been edited by AMINT: Aug 10 2012, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 10 2012, 08:03 AM)
With all the developments in Puchong, I doubt it. But dunno where is the next proposed location


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Setia Emas will be like Setia Alam while Setia
Eco Hills will be like Setia Eco Park. Both will be in Semenyih.
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“For 2012, in the Klang Valley, the next growth centres will be within the Kajang and Semenyih areas,” - SP Setia President and chief executive officer Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2365266/all


New Township Projects in Semenyih


Pelangi Semenyih Phase 2A: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2318543/all

Setia EcoHill Semenyih registration: http://www.setiaecohill.com.my/index.asp


Added on August 10, 2012, 9:04 am
QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 10 2012, 07:49 AM)
What is the diffenrence between setia emas n eco hill.
Btw since sp setia is now owned by pnb,board of director will remain unchange for 3 years. Thereafter tan sri may step down and probably sp setia wun be as good as they use to be now.
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SP Setia buys land for RM381mil to replicate earlier success(update)

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...69&sec=business

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