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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V27, Saga Gangnam style

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calvin_kenni
post Aug 13 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Aug 13 2012, 11:30 PM)
How to check the ecu.. Got toturial? HAHHA

Oh yea, where is the obd2 plug point?
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near your brake pedal
lhwj
post Aug 13 2012, 11:42 PM

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Okay I have three things to say.

1. I just filled up tonight for the journey back to Penang tomorrow. The previous tank was 9.9L/100 km, did almost 200 km on it. The reason for this consumption was heavy traffic on the LDP on Friday, and around Summit and USJ on Sat evening. Also on Sat night there was a horrendous jam going to Kota Damansara and I had to release steam by redlining the engine a lot. Sorry yah YAB, vacuum gauge needle was pointing to 0 a lot then.

Will drive very carefully monitoring the vacuum gauge all the way back to Penang and hope to collect some more results regarding the vacuum gauge readings.

2. I noticed that my tyres have been squealing around my car park today. Then it hit me. When I was on the stock Ducaro GAs, it was silent. No squeal. After changing to XM2, they squeal a bit. It was tonight that I realised after adding the FSB made the squealing a bit louder, and then now with the RSB it squeals a lot laugh.gif Guess the bars transmit more force to the tyres making them squeal more.

3. Yesterday when I was on the LDP doing around 60 km/h my friend sitting behind told me there was some noise from the tyres, and the sound was on every rotation. I couldn't hear anything though.

Tonight as I was driving through my car park on the way out I could hear some flapping "pak pak pak" sound from the tyres. I thought I had a flat but all four tyres were inflated properly. So I drove on but the sound persisted. Went on the LDP again and this time I heard it clearly, though it was quite faint.

Talked to YAB about it and he advised going to SC for a check in the morning. Hope it's not the drumbrake problem cry.gif
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post Aug 13 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 13 2012, 11:42 PM)

Tonight as I was driving through my car park on the way out I could hear some flapping "pak pak pak" sound from the tyres. I thought I had a flat but all four tyres were inflated properly. So I drove on but the sound persisted. Went on the LDP again and this time I heard it clearly, though it was quite faint.

Talked to YAB about it and he advised going to SC for a check in the morning. Hope it's not the drumbrake problem cry.gif
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Check if there are anything stuck to your tires eg. paper, plastic bag etc. etc.

Happened to me last time when DIY insulflex at Kota Kemuning.
lhwj
post Aug 13 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2012, 11:47 PM)
Check if there are anything stuck to your tires eg. paper, plastic bag etc. etc.

Happened to me last time when DIY insulflex at Kota Kemuning.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I made a visual check just now after getting home but I think I'll go and do a more thorough one now.
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post Aug 13 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2012, 08:15 PM)
Me used 2buy STP Bituminous Underseal Spray to xtra protect ole gen Saga.
However, kenot find such aerosols now xcept those wax type antirust sprays...

If can get those STP Bitumen type Undersealant Aerosol Spray Cans, me wld like 2join any Bulk Buys organised... thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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Have you tried searching at Ace Hardware? I remember reading some forums that they got it at Ace Hardware...

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post Aug 14 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Aug 13 2012, 07:27 PM)
i thought we discussing those weeee noise from cabin filter ?? hmm.gif
my FLX wheel arc will protected by bituminous coating soon... unker david know what happen...  brows.gif
yes, FAT32 is a must...  nod.gif
david, my aircond cabin filter also got weeeeeee noise... if those people without weeeeeee noise, it mean that filter fit to that cabin, otherwise air leakage can cause the weeeeeeee noise, probably FLX have bigger cabin for that filter  hmm.gif

anyway, i already solved that problem...  tongue.gif

see any different here???  brows.gif
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let's zoom in!! oopps!! some strip is missing...  tongue.gif
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ta da!!! modded my cabin filter, no more weeeeeee noise  icon_idea.gif
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lhwj
post Aug 14 2012, 12:37 AM

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Got onto the floor and had a good look at all tyres. No foreign objects stuck.

Did a test drive in my car park. The sound is there, but it's very faint. You can hear it only if everything else is quiet. Seems to be coming from the left side.

My gut feeling is that it's merely an annoyance. The car feels perfectly normal while moving. Still, better safe than sorry.

Anyway, the sound seems to be related to something between the road surface and the tyre thread, not the tyres themself. Oh the sound is more like, rip rip rip rather than pak pak pak.

This post has been edited by lhwj: Aug 14 2012, 12:42 AM
calvin_kenni
post Aug 14 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 14 2012, 12:37 AM)
Got onto the floor and had a good look at all tyres. No foreign objects stuck.

Did a test drive in my car park. The sound is there, but it's very faint. You can hear it only if everything else is quiet. Seems to be coming from the left side.

My gut feeling is that it's merely an annoyance. The car feels perfectly normal while moving. Still, better safe than sorry.

Anyway, the sound seems to be related to something between the road surface and the tyre thread, not the tyres themself. Oh the sound is more like, rip rip rip rather than pak pak pak.
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hmm.. alignment problem?
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post Aug 14 2012, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 14 2012, 12:47 AM)
hmm.. alignment problem?
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hmm.gif Don't think so. Alignment was done at 40k and the car has always gone in a straight line with no hands on the wheel.
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:00 AM

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hope not this one la...tayar got bengkak already?
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 14 2012, 12:47 AM)
hmm.. alignment problem?
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Shouldnt be. Poor alignment or imbalance wheel or swollen rubbers will cause vibration or off-center steering at most, not weird sounds.

Maybe some rubber got partially torn off, or something sticky got stuck in between the threads hmm.gif hmm.gif

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lhwj
post Aug 14 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(manubis @ Aug 14 2012, 01:00 AM)
hope not this one la...tayar got bengkak already?
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Nope. Sidewalls and threads look normal.


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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2012, 01:01 AM)
Shouldnt be. Poor alignment or imbalance wheel or swollen rubbers will cause vibration or off-center steering at most, not weird sounds.

Maybe some rubber got partially torn off, or something sticky got stuck in between the threads  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Ahh I've thought of that. This afternoon, when I parked at 1Utama there was a large spill of engine oil at the lot where I parked. Still, I can't find any traces of oil on the threads.

I think I'll stop by the tyre shop instead of the SC. Can't afford to wait a few hours for inspection, and this problem seems tyre related.

This post has been edited by lhwj: Aug 14 2012, 01:19 AM
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:26 AM

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dares, this is what am I talking about, the plastic flap kena grind a big hole

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New rubber!!! Long time didn't see the radial line liao

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If you notice I just recently "REPAINTED" the bumper, some smart ass immediately come and put a line on it

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A small snake hiding under, no annoying sound when cruising, but scream like a lady when push it!

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Tadaa!!!! Its a bloody Turtle Blitz 1800. But hor... it looks more like the brake caliper going to sangkut the rim anytime hmm.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2012, 09:12 PM)
Bro, wat new tyres yu got?

Me still considering either Mich XM2 or Yoko C Drive 2 for my stock 14" alloy rims. Any advice?
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Turtle tayar FTW icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 13 2012, 09:17 PM)
No more turtle tyres icon_idea.gif

I must do muscle workout before driving your Iswaga, later have to reverse 20 times just to get out of the lot laugh.gif
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blink.gif It is turtle tayar.... AGAIN sweat.gif

QUOTE(manubis @ Aug 14 2012, 01:00 AM)
hope not this one la...tayar got bengkak already?
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Could be tayar bengkak. If not go to tayar shop, the only inspection you can do is by hand. Use your palm to gradually sweep through the tayar surface to see whether its wavy. Tayar bengkak may not directly caused by the tayar itself, it could be an emergency brake that eat up part of the rubber. It could be over inflated(cheap tyres tend to have this kind of problem, not talking about XM2, but hey! Who knows). Last but not least, absorber mounting makan 1 side will also have this kind of problem as the shock rate of absorber imbalance,

This post has been edited by davidke20: Aug 14 2012, 01:29 AM
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post Aug 14 2012, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 14 2012, 01:10 AM)
Nope. Sidewalls and threads look normal.


Added on August 14, 2012, 1:19 am

Ahh I've thought of that. This afternoon, when I parked at 1Utama there was a large spill of engine oil at the lot where I parked. Still, I can't find any traces of oil on the threads.

I think I'll stop by the tyre shop instead of the SC. Can't afford to wait a few hours for inspection, and this problem seems tyre related.
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Sincerely hope yu can solve yr rear tyre sound prob 2day b4 yu leave 4Pg lo.... thumbup.gif
Wish yu a no-worry, pleasant & safe trip!! rclxms.gif smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2012, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Aug 13 2012, 11:58 PM)
Have you tried searching at Ace Hardware? I remember reading some forums that they got it at Ace Hardware...
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Bro, may I ask the Chiti-Chiti you own is which year & what model eh? I'm aware both your car having similar FC reading flex.gif

Oh! And the MyBi also similar hmm.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 6:49 am
QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Aug 13 2012, 07:27 PM)
david, my aircond cabin filter also got weeeeeee noise... if those people without weeeeeee noise, it mean that filter fit to that cabin, otherwise air leakage can cause the weeeeeeee noise, probably FLX have bigger cabin for that filterĀ  hmm.gif
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Bro, got harder whining sound meaning its filter harder, less exit route for the air to past through the cooling coil(each cubic micron of air flow must go through the filter). Also meaning it fits just right to the casing.

On the other hand, the whining sound isn't really that bad. It just happened that when you hear it, you feel something different. Imagine, if Plotong drop a piece of filter before delivery of the car, will you still complain to Plotong regarding the whining sound? I bet not. With or without the filter, there is already whining noise from the cooling coil itself as wind channel through the leafs icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 14 2012, 08:12 AM

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Thanks YAB and Z1.

At the tyre shop now. Just took the guy for a test drive. Hopefully it's okay

Update: tyres taken off and checked. No bengkak or abnormalities. Doing balancing and rotation.

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post Aug 14 2012, 08:30 AM

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morning gaga yawn.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 14 2012, 12:37 AM)
Got onto the floor and had a good look at all tyres. No foreign objects stuck.

Did a test drive in my car park. The sound is there, but it's very faint. You can hear it only if everything else is quiet. Seems to be coming from the left side.

My gut feeling is that it's merely an annoyance. The car feels perfectly normal while moving. Still, better safe than sorry.

Anyway, the sound seems to be related to something between the road surface and the tyre thread, not the tyres themself. Oh the sound is more like, rip rip rip rather than pak pak pak.
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most probably is tayar bengkak dy... happen to my friend last month... blush.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 8:32 amSaga V27 thread post completion : 96.68% (2417/2500)
this thread really cool, super active... flex.gif

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post Aug 14 2012, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Aug 14 2012, 08:30 AM)
morning gaga  yawn.gif
most probably is tayar bengkak dy... happen to my friend last month...  blush.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 8:32 amSaga V27 thread post completion : 96.68% (2417/2500)
this thread really cool, super active...  flex.gif
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Gogoman next TS!! flex.gif
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post Aug 14 2012, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 13 2012, 06:00 PM)
could it be the different design of the pollen filter ?
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i've taken out the pollen filter. i'm using 2 paper filter. the sound i've noticed is only the wind blow sound. fuuuuuuuuuu... normal one. or i'm just not concentrated about the weeeee sound, i don't know. pay attention on the road. even sometimes my wifu have to ask questions to me 2 times.
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 14 2012, 08:12 AM)
Thanks YAB and Z1.

At the tyre shop now. Just took the guy for a test drive. Hopefully it's okay

Update: tyres taken off and checked. No bengkak or abnormalities. Doing balancing and rotation.
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Relieved & happy 4yu to note all tyres chk-ed out ok.... thumbup.gif
Hv a safe pleasant drive lo.... rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 8:39 am
QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 14 2012, 08:34 AM)
i've taken out the pollen filter. i'm using 2 paper filter. the sound i've noticed is only the wind blow sound. fuuuuuuuuuu... normal one. or i'm just not concentrated about the weeeee sound, i don't know. pay attention on the road. even sometimes my wifu have to ask questions to me 2 times.
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Me not hv any experience of that "weeeeee" sound which some Bros hv...
Also me hv used 2 other makes of filters (all together with ori mesh filter) and no such sounds either... thumbup.gif

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