Technically yes, they have the right to void warranty but in reality no, especially if you're using BRANDED, ORIGINAL (non-fake) engine oil. Branded engine oil rarely if ever will cause any engine failure unless you're using those supercar that REQUIRE fully syn and you masuk mineral oil.....but those supercars will definitely not be service in Proton...

Lots of SC don't allow outside engine oil but CoSE (the HQ) and a few SC (Bukit Tinggi, Klang) does. Note that some SC using Shell officially, some Petronas, so actually if SC allow bring oil, any branded and known lube (make sure its not fake) won't be a problem.

Imagine if let say using if Proton actually blame an engine issue and void warranty because you used Castrol Magnatec lube with the right viscosity rating, I doubt Castrol is going to sit quiet and take the blame for ITS LUBE causing an engine failure...

dont think to much
just get the one that you can afford.
im also thinking between forte and preve last time.
for me preve iafm<forte 1.6<preve cfe<forte 2.0
if you can afford ir, just take forte 2.0

haha.. forte 2.0 out of budget ady.. even forte 1.6l sx also i cannot afford..

max i can go to is ex forte 1.6 only..

everytime i take corners...i take it very hard....like 70 degree turn, i take the corner in 50-60km/h....some of the times only...

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Added on August 15, 2012, 10:25 amhow to identify fake engine oil?

This post has been edited by arthur88: Aug 15 2012, 10:25 AM

bro drive safely even preve has very good handling

i want to buy preve,
but first i want to know, are all the problems faced by the initial batch sloved already?

just booked preve cfe premium yesterday..

the salesman ask me to choose 2 colour for the car..my priority is red..then silver..

today morning got email from them, they already booking the silver colour. then i called the salesman, he said red colour have no stock, maybe need to wait 3 months..silver colour got stock, maybe next month can get.

but i really wanted red colour..huhu..can somebody check for me is it true red colour have low production compared silver?

i agree with u.

1. test drive 1st.
2. buy that u like.

imo, pls note, imo only ye, no offensive & i like simple design:

1. forte's dashboard is like previous gen kia.
preve dashboard is simple & functional.

2. fit & fitting varies at places, & i believe my wife's myvi mk1 is far better than forte.
yes i admit that preve's dashboard to door panel gap at lower a-pillar is big, but forte's gap is only milimeters smaller than preve's.

3. ergonomic is where most peoples' car failed at.
pls take note on these as ergonomically-designed car will make ur body feel at ease & less strain.
a have a proper seating position with hands at wheel, then try to reach ur gear stick.
notice the distance during gear changing.
b finger flicking at lamp & wiper switches.
c front & surrounding views. a-pillar obstructing the vision?

4. well..since looks nice or not is subjective,
a i like forte's front, but i hate it's bulky & less-sculptured shoulder.
shoulder is rear fender sides under the c-pillar.
preve's shoulder is smoother & nicer.
b. i dun like preve's tailight, i prefer some sort of mini bulky like bmw m3/ vw cc to complement the curved shape of the tailight (& i wish to emphasize on the shape)..hope fellow friends here can understand what i've said..huhu)
forte's sharp tailight at fender area is useless, more or less like wira big reflective(?) tailight near the plate holder; & i see that it just serve the purpose of making the car looks nicer.
c. the lines/strokes of forte's & preve's shares the same characteristics. just look at them & evaluate which one of these really blend into the styling of the car.


oh..talked so much this morning.
i better cut&paste my comment into my blog..haha

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Added on August 15, 2012, 10:37 amfrom my reading, red color is currently on-hold due to paint unavailability.

i like that red, gold color also.
my wife said that i'm "uncle"

This post has been edited by farghmee: Aug 15 2012, 10:37 AM

there is a two consecutive corners when driving to work...one corner is sharp narrow 90 degree, another one is wider 70 degree....in 10 times, i only take corners hard 2 or 3 times in these two consecutive corners....really enjoy the stability of preve...

I'm still wondering why some ppl are still using a snake oil (yes, thats what we call engine treatment addictives and others).

Sourced this from a post in yahoo from a mechanic. A lot of known car bibles and lube experts mentioned abt the same thing but this post just put simple and easy to understand.

"No oil treatment is needed or recommended for use in an engine. The present day engine oils are formulated with various modifiers to provide proper lubrication, viscosity and cleaning to your engines internal parts. Using ANY additive could upset the formulations by adding chemicals which aren't compatible with the oil you are using. It's much better to just select a good oil and stick with it."

Conclusion : Just god-damn service your car on time, change lube and filter on time, used a good well known lube with right viscosity for your ride, you'll have one of the cleanest and well protected engine that can last a while.

I've personally serviced on time for my rides at every 5K, using mineral for 80K, then switch to FS to reduce vibration and smoother acceleration...open up engine at 85K, engine super clean, piston and bore wall almost like new....did not use any engine treatment and engine still performed like new...almost.

yupp..that's me

My advise? Hmm..it's quite hard to advise bro nic actually. I myself did not own Forte 1.6EX in the first place in order to compare it with my Preve CFE. I only can compare it to my Forte 2.0SX (CBU) as below :

Handling = Preve (undeniable)

Ride Smoothness = Forte (Preve CVT need to be refined)

Comfort = Preve (maybe due to its 16" rims & tune for comfort suspension. Forte SX use 17" rims with sports tune suspension)

Cabin Quietness = on par (Forte got tire noise due to its wider tires, Preve got engine noise due to its CVT)

Build Quality = Forte (Forte is more refined in its build)

Acceleration = Forte (That's for sure though the Preve's torque is higher)

FC = Forte (especially on highway drive. City drive (low speed) i would say on par. Mind u..my Forte is 4-speeder, not 6-speeder which will give better FC i believe)

Specs & Price = Compare it yourself..lol

My wife's verdict = From her own words, if she were given a choice between these 2 cars to drive..she prefer to drive my Forte rather than her Preve CFE..

At the end..it's your money, your car & your own satisfactions..so choose the car wisely. For me, there are no wrong choice for both cars

This post has been edited by izputra: Aug 15 2012, 10:53 AM

Actually very hard, even mechanics themselves got problem identifying them. Only upon usage after a few K when DAMAGE to engine has occur, only some will know.

So the best way to ensure originality of lube is to buy from established and known source, ie, petrol station (Caltex = Havoline, Esso = Mobil, Shell = Helix, etc). Mostly the most popular lube out there, ie, Castrol, Shell, Bardahl, has A LOT OF FAKES. Some used back original bottle so cannot even identify from bottle. Some use mineral oil in FS bottle, so engine still will run fine but your paying FS price for mineral lube.

If change at 5K, rarely damage if mineral but lots of guys change FS at 10K, habis engine is keep using that fake unknowingly. The most damage of fake comes from recycled lube, a lube that was filtered and have the clean look of a new oil BUT WITH NO ADDICTIVES LEFT (all used up), massive damage in engine when used.

Keep in mind when you found a well known lube selling cheaper or cheaply outside (especially in parts shops, lots of fake, even parts staff also cannot differentiate). Therefore make sure to buy from known and well established source.

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Added on August 15, 2012, 11:03 amHaha given a choice I would too choose Forte 2.0 over Preve 1.6 even with its high mid-end torque.Its a 2.0 car thus no underpower issue vs Forte 1.6 although the 6 speed gear helps a bit.

Overall the car build quality of Forte is still better than Preve and its a stock 2.0 rather than 1.6 enhanced with turbo. Preve campro engine will definitely be more noisy, its known for that, CVT or not. Cabin noise, ie rattling will appear within a year or so for Forte in general but Proton...even the new so-called global car standard....rattling has become an inherent properties for most Protons.....mostly from the moment we get the car. Thats why I've commented before Preve still have WAY to go on build and qc issues....although its packed with value for money features and of course its undeniable excellent handling quality.

Note : I have to say, if a choice from Forte 1.6 vs CFE, I might still take CFE coz its cheaper, loaded with features and equally underpowered for both rides but CFE had advantage of high mid-end torque. Although currently CFE will still be out of consideration UNTIL it near mid-life with most of its issued identified and solved by Proton themselves.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Aug 15 2012, 11:08 AM

oh my god bro.. u has been pouring $$ into my pocket..hehe..

really appreciate ur detailed explain every moment..

i ady tested both cars.. but it seems i need to test both once again more detail..

thanks you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Added on August 15, 2012, 11:08 ami hve to agree on the smoothness.. forte 6speed is much more smoother than preve'cvt

comfort and handling also preve own.. mayb its because of the inherent of lotus DNA..hehe

ur wife has the same choice as my gf.. they prefer forte over preve at the end..hehe..

anyway bro! thanks a lot for ur review and honest comparison! thanks!

This post has been edited by nicgoh: Aug 15 2012, 11:08 AM

fulat, wat speaker u using? how much? i also plan to change.. wat soundproof u installed?

Hi Nic,

I just did my 1000km service at SS 14...

Told them about it and they ask me to refer to HQ because they do not know what to do and receive no instruction from HQ.. Damn!

However, they did a ecu remapping.

Nothing done on the jerking issue as well

At least they tried something,. For mine, they just said it is normal, nothing can bf done, case closed

it is confirmed. Ipoh TT on Fri 31/8 at 10am at Vanggey. GPS coordinates to Vanggey are E101* 5' 47.4". N4* 36' 0.6".

Forte future buyer not welcome.. wahahhaha kidding ah...

This post has been edited by fulat: Aug 15 2012, 11:27 AM

i downhill genting corner hard...tyre squeezing sound,bodyroll


buy engine from big company like shell station and petronas...or authorized dealer/disturbutor for the brands...dont buy at small spare part kedai,althought they are cheaper,cos chance of imitation oil is high...

remember to keep the official resit u buying engine oil,when u use own engine oil at sc if shit happen,they maybe blame ur engine oil problem(imitation oil...etc),then u got prove that ur engine oil not fake or recycle oil..



every month got a truck come to my company to collect the waste engine oil from truck,they say collect back to do recycle industri oil

This post has been edited by maverickng: Aug 15 2012, 11:31 AM

i might be future preve cfe buyer also ma... still not confirm yet.. daddy and mommy wan to get me cfe more than forte.. but still unconfirmed geh

vanngey is where lai de? @@

RESTORAN NASI VANGGEY ?

This post has been edited by nicgoh: Aug 15 2012, 11:37 AM