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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V3, Read 1st post to find highest rate.

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post Nov 22 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(ilovefdmalaysia @ Nov 22 2012, 05:50 PM)
not 1 year. i get 3.75% for 3 month.
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The published rate is 3.65% for 3 months. So you are getting 0.1% more ! Good deal !


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post Nov 22 2012, 09:42 PM

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http://www.bestinvestmentinmalaysia.com/an...income-builder/

Did managed to get some data from the link above if it is reliable.

HLA is bad if you opt for the GYI.

HLA is bearable if you opt for the accumulative option , however lock in maturity period is unbearable. Seems reference interest rate is roughly 3.9x% on the plus side some insurance.

HOWEVER dont shoot me, as just learning how to calculate for my own benefit only..
Its meant for simpleton who dont want to think much or do much..ha..haa laugh.gif

For me I choose to play musical chairs , as feel a free man without that long lock in period.
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:22 PM

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Guys, im kinda new to this FD. Would anyone share on the benefit of registering one FD and which bank give the best advantage based on your opinion. I have read somewhere in article that this FD is really useful especially for long term saving but sadly i am currently still doing some homework in making this FD benefit to the maximum as i can. Anyone mind to share with the newbie on this matter?

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QUOTE(zaimaiman @ Nov 22 2012, 11:22 PM)
Guys, im kinda new to this FD. Would anyone share on the benefit of registering one FD and which bank give the best advantage based on your opinion. I have read somewhere in article that this FD is really useful especially for long term saving but sadly i am currently still doing some homework in making this FD benefit to the maximum as i can. Anyone mind to share with the newbie on this matter?
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Saving plan is never a FD in the first place.
End of story.
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post Nov 23 2012, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 23 2012, 12:09 AM)
Saving plan is never a FD in the first place.
End of story.
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owh. then how does this sytems works and i believes u guys are bending the system as maximum as the system allowed in getting the ROI of it. let say if im about to open one, what are the best option to choose the bank for and how long target of return should i opt for? sorry im just started to get the knowledge in this finance sector as im not from this background
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 21 2012, 04:28 PM)
New retail bonds by CIMB... more or less as safe as FD unless the bank close down.  tongue.gif

Offer period:                         8 November 2012 - 7 December 2012
Minimum investment amount: RM250,000 in multiples of RM5,000
Tenure:                                  Up to 10 years, First Call Date no later than 5 years from Issue date
Indicative Variable Coupon: 4.80% p.a.** referenced to 6-month KLIBOR

Principal will be returned on call or maturity date by reference to CIMB Bank Berhad Tier 2 Subordinated Debt (rated AA+ by MARC)
Receive Fixed Coupon of indicatively 4.00% p.a.* if investment is flipped or if the investment is not called (after year 5)
Transparent payoff features with assurance of daily prices and liquidity

Looks like a good deal if anyone wanna lock in very long term yield, interest paid every 6 months. laugh.gif
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This is not your normal bank bond like CIMB Innovative or PBB NIT issued few years back which are not refernced to any index. Which means you get the coupon rate fixed
6.8% and 7.2%, somewhere around there IINM., UNLESS the bank collapse.

This one is more like structured product and return is referenced to an index in this case KLIBOR.
The index out of range you may get ZERO return, ie no interest/dividend payment during that period.So you can get ZERO return even when the bank is not collapse!

Besides the return rate of 4.8% is poor for such a long period. You can safely get 4.7% guaranteed month after month irrespective of whatever index up or down, with 5 years FD at MBSB.


so to me , this one is a risky product, not good. i had similar experience some years back with this, end up getting very little only over 3 years, worse than FD!!

It is not a safe product! When the index went out of range bank no need to pay interest and it will keep it going without call back.

When index keep within range bank cannot tahan the payment, bank can easily play dirty by call back and return your investment.

This post has been edited by guy3288: Nov 23 2012, 11:39 PM
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Nov 23 2012, 09:45 PM)
which bank?  hmm.gif
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post Nov 24 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:37 PM)
This is not your normal bank bond like CIMB Innovative or PBB NIT issued few years back which are not refernced to any index. Which means you get the coupon rate fixed
6.8% and 7.2%, somewhere around there IINM., UNLESS the bank collapse.

This one  is more like structured product and return is referenced to an index in this case KLIBOR.
The index out of range you may get ZERO return, ie no interest/dividend payment during that period.So you can get ZERO return even when the bank is not collapse!

Besides the return rate of 4.8% is poor for such a long period. You can safely get 4.7% guaranteed month after month irrespective of whatever index up or down, with 5 years FD at MBSB.
so to me , this one is a risky product, not good. i had similar experience some years back with this, end up getting very little only over 3 years, worse than FD!!

It is not a safe product! When the index went out of range bank no need to pay interest and it will keep it going without call back.

When index keep within range bank cannot tahan the payment, bank can easily play dirty by call back and return your investment.
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rite, well explained.

cimb (and other banks) offer such intsruments all the time. mostly called frnid.

the last similar ones from cimb offered more than the indicative 4.8%.

last one from cimb was 5.2%, and before that, 5.6%. and as u correctly pointed out, they call back after 12-15 months! safe or not, hard to say... i guess nothing comes for free but with risks - a matter of u see it or not, risk appetite profile.

whatever, one thing is obvious - risk free deposit rates are trending down, not going up anytime soon.

any institution offering unusually high deposit rates, i get the shivers. tongue.gif

best to diversify. or if single type, spread over several banks...

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 24 2012, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 16 2012, 06:59 PM)
b. Opened FDs at BR asking for a higher FD rate, on top of the 0.05% I was offered on the phone yesterday. Much to my surprise, they gave me 4.11% for a year (amount is RMx00k). Will go and buy some durians tomorrow. They got some computer issue with my FD and I still have not got the FD receipts. Hope to get them by Monday. Still can see many chinese opening FD at BR.
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Wow 4.11% for 12 months thumbup.gif Why bother with FD Promos laugh.gif

Thanks a lot for reporting above notworthy.gif

QUOTE(magika @ Nov 19 2012, 10:24 AM)
Thanks plumberly for the heads up at BR. Deposited at BR on 14 November, went back today to request 4.11% and was given. 
BR current free gift is Parker Pen, Manicure set, Shoe Bag.
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Bro, you got 3 free gifts some more, you're really a good negotiator notworthy.gif

QUOTE(jes88 @ Nov 19 2012, 12:59 PM)
Walk in BR today, ask for FD, said no more additional 0.05%, then ok, want to open FD, the officer ask me for the IC copy, i said don't have, then ask me to copy the IC outside the bank, what the fxxx bank? So I just walk out and go to MBSB.
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Everyone take note of above, make copy of you IC first before going to BR tongue.gif

QUOTE(ilovefdmalaysia @ Nov 19 2012, 03:57 PM)
This thing does not happen at the jalan tangsi branch. I went again to this branch and deposited some money. 3 month tenure and ask for 3.75%, the manager who I deal with several time, said ok without hesitation. BR problem is, you had to go there again few day later to collect the Fd cert.
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Another good rate from BR. Thanks for reporting.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2012, 04:44 PM)
I just came across HL leaflet that got 12 months FD with step up FD 4.28% (for 4Q),
1Q 3.08%
2Q 3.18%
3Q 3.28%
3Q 4.28%.
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Thanks for reporting. updated 1st post.

QUOTE(magika @ Nov 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
MBSB FD rates until 31 Dec 2012

6 mths - 3.80%
9 mths - 3.90%
12 mths - 4.05%

If open Cashrich Account min RM1k FD rate added 0.05%  drool.gif
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thanks for reporting, updated 1st post.


QUOTE(magika @ Nov 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
Just an easier way to ask for additional rate. Firstly get the rate brochure from BR, at the bottom will be the contact no of the officer concerned. Nego by using the phone will be easier and more rewarding than in person. Thats how plumberly got the 4.11%.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the tip Bro.


Just to add to above on Bank Rakyat deposits and "interest rates", BR "FD" dividend rate is not guaranteed tongue.gif but then again, which Islamic banking product does wink.gif

And to see more FD promos and my comments click here to my Fixed Deposit Promotion Page at my blog.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 24 2012, 06:13 PM)
cimb (and other banks) offer such intsruments all the time. mostly called frnid.

the last similar ones from cimb offered more than the indicative 4.8%.

last one from cimb was 5.2%, and before that, 5.6%. and as u correctly pointed out, they call back after 12-15 months! safe or not, hard to say... i guess nothing comes for free but with risks - a matter of u see it or not, risk appetite profile.

whatever, one thing is obvious - risk free deposit rates are trending down, not going up anytime soon.

any institution offering unusually high deposit rates, i get the shivers.
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Alliance Bank was offering similar product couple months back and OCBC was (not sure still on) offering similar investment scheme before I left for holiday about 2 weeks ago.

This post has been edited by Gen-X: Nov 24 2012, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:37 PM)
This is not your normal bank bond like CIMB Innovative or PBB NIT issued few years back which are not refernced to any index. Which means you get the coupon rate fixed
6.8% and 7.2%, somewhere around there IINM., UNLESS the bank collapse.

This one  is more like structured product and return is referenced to an index in this case KLIBOR.
The index out of range you may get ZERO return, ie no interest/dividend payment during that period.So you can get ZERO return even when the bank is not collapse!

Besides the return rate of 4.8% is poor for such a long period. You can safely get 4.7% guaranteed month after month irrespective of whatever index up or down, with 5 years FD at MBSB.
so to me , this one is a risky product, not good. i had similar experience some years back with this, end up getting very little only over 3 years, worse than FD!!

It is not a safe product! When the index went out of range bank no need to pay interest and it will keep it going without call back.

When index keep within range bank cannot tahan the payment, bank can easily play dirty by call back and return your investment.
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Invested in Public Bank structured product before. If not msaken it is 3 years 9 months. First year gave miseable coupon and subsequent 2nd and 3rd year zero coupon. Currently nav only 97+. You are right to say put into FD will probably get more return
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Whoa! Bank Rakyat's FD rates are high because they find it difficult to secure funds as they are not covered under PIDM. Be careful ...remember the gold investment lures?
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QUOTE(faradie @ Nov 25 2012, 01:37 PM)
Whoa! Bank Rakyat's FD rates are high because they find it difficult to secure funds as they are not covered under PIDM. Be careful ...remember the gold investment lures?
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Yes, thank for the advice. i am kind of worry. MBSB, Bank Persatuan, Bank pembangunan, BSN, BANK MUAMALAT and Agrobank all under Koperasi and MOF, be careful. NO PIDM.
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QUOTE(ilovefdmalaysia @ Nov 25 2012, 02:32 PM)
Yes, thank for the advice. i am kind of worry. MBSB, Bank Persatuan, Bank pembangunan, BSN, BANK MUAMALAT and Agrobank all under Koperasi and MOF, be careful. NO PIDM.
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I smell sarcasm hmm.gif
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I know this is slightly off the topic but with the FD gurus here, hope that you can help me with this.

Thinking of putting some $ in PRS (Private Retirement Scheme) which has just started this year. Why ?

Mainly because of the tax benefit.

Looking at PB's PRS, charges are :
* sales charge (3%, once off on purchase)
* annual fees (mgt (1%), trust (0.04%), admin (RM10)).

With A's 26% tax rate, his effective returns after 5 years will be :
* PRS with 0% pa return, => 4%
* PRS with 3% pa return, => 6%

(assuming he retires in 5 yrs, otherwise a 8% tax rate on early withdrawal).

Your view ?

Thanks.

P/S Yes, PRS has no capital guarantee or protection.

PP/S Compared to BR's rate for 5 yrs, then this PRS is about the same (with PRS's return at 3% pa).

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QUOTE(ilovefdmalaysia @ Nov 25 2012, 02:32 PM)
Yes, thank for the advice. i am kind of worry. MBSB, Bank Persatuan, Bank pembangunan, BSN, BANK MUAMALAT and Agrobank all under Koperasi and MOF, be careful. NO PIDM.
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With bank and government advertiseemnt on PIDM protection, there is explanation from where and how PIDM get the money to protect the depositors money in the bank. PIDM gets the money from the members bank to join as the members and now they have included insurance company to pay the money yearly as well to be a member and claimed to the public it is PIDM protected. There is no financial reporting nor statement reported in the public on PIDM perform yearly and also no transparency on the mechanism on how it get the money to protect depositors.
I guessed this is another government "initiative" to collect money.
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QUOTE(gsc @ Nov 26 2012, 03:05 PM)
With bank and government advertiseemnt on PIDM protection, there is explanation from where and how PIDM get the money to protect the depositors money in the bank. PIDM gets the money from the members bank to join as the members and now they have included insurance company to pay the money yearly as well to be a member and claimed to the public it is PIDM protected. There is no financial reporting nor statement reported in the public on PIDM perform yearly and also no transparency on the mechanism on how it get the money to protect depositors.
I guessed this is another government "initiative" to collect money.
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gsc,

Good point. I have been wondering wihat really is this PIDM, do banks pay to PIDM for the guarantee, how much, etc., etc.

Even with member banks paying for this service, I really doubt that the service fees will be sufficient to pay to the depositors if the bank(s) closes down. Maybe the final big brother at the end of the line is the govt to decide and bail out the troubled bank(s). Just my thought.

How much do banks pay for this PIDM service ? RM x million per bank per year ?

How much are depositors' total amount in a typical bank ? RM 100 million ? RM 1 billion ?

Something does not add up.

My 2 cents.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 26 2012, 02:33 PM)
With A's 26% tax rate, his effective returns after 5 years will be :
* PRS with 0% pa return, => 4%
* PRS with 3% pa return, => 6%
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Where are these 4% and 6% derived from ?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 26 2012, 03:35 PM)
Where are these 4% and 6% derived from ?
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aeiou,

Briefly, saving :
a. in tax is 3000*0.26 and put that in FD at 3 % pa
b. return after fees deduction for PRS zero and 3% return cases.

Cheerio.

P/S An idea just came to mind - a possible loophole with this PRS RM3000 tax deduction. Will find out more first. Ha.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 26 2012, 03:47 PM)
aeiou,

Briefly, saving :
a. in tax is 3000*0.26 and put that in FD at 3 % pa
b. return after fees deduction for PRS zero and 3% return cases.

Cheerio.

P/S An idea just came to mind - a possible loophole with this PRS RM3000 tax deduction. Will find out more first. Ha.
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What about the following year (second year)?
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This morning drove pass HLB and saw a big banner on something like 12 months FD at 4.28%, anyone saw it too?

Edited: Ok it's a stepped up FD, I knew HLB won't offer such good offering shakehead.gif

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