+ VAT mar... sure expensive one.. i think if you bring back... can claim VAT release at airport... but malaysia custom will give you some stick or not.. .that is another matter la...

told you so... get over it dude...

fuh... cheras adi 500k... no hope for our generation liao...

this is only wat we can afford...



for me personally.. i always think of 2 problems which is availability and support (and because 1 consistently happens to all my wheels... so, i a bit paranoid)

FR0... 2 reasons... more accessible via my bike shop (price factor and also repair support)... and i dun need to worry because the bike shop i frequent more has parts for it... especially spokes... even the replacement ceramic bearings are murderous in price.. i think RM300++... for 1 wheel i think.,..

unless you are darn close to boon foo or KH cycle... i think Mavic can be a preferred choice.. either one won't be wrong...

no side considerations... Ksyrium SL (despite without ceramic bearings) i would say is more or less on par with FR0...

and Ksyrium Elite will definitely win over FR0 in terms of value for money despite not having ceramic bearings... it's the definitive do it all wheel...

if you put the choice as pure performance Ksyrium SR... Ksyrium SR wins hand down without considering side factors... i heard it is shit stiff in terms of power transfer... much more than the FR0... but i have never ridden or seen one in KL before.. before reaching that price level.. i guess most had gone to Cosmic Carbone...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 12:59 PM

because they will self implode like the r-sys... and then you can sue mavic for it...

i trust that Tracomp technology has been massively improved by now... and in theory it should make for a stiff wheel despite the carbon spokes being placed on the non-drive side...can't understand the logic as well..

it's not a why really.. rather a why not if you have the money to spend... and it's cheaper than the Ksyrium SLR by a big margin as far as i understand...

so is eating rice... so, why you eating rice?

wat else are we gonna talk about... this is a cycling thread in a sports channel within a techie forum...

we can't just be talking about girls and B2B massages all day long...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 01:46 PM

but you still eat rice...

he wants to go there buy and ride there...

dun be a camwhore dude....

you are never safe... we are jus implanting the biggest poison needle into your subconscious... and little do you know... and in fact... you don't know it at all even if we tell it right to your face that we are secretly and subliminal planting messages to coax you into buying some RM10k++ wheelset that makes no sense... c u sked or not..

wat to do... singaporeans is always kiasu ma... malaysians got lots of water fish... must faster press until all water fish die...

no need la... we pro one... even if we state that we are openly poisoning him on a big billboard in front of his condo... his subconscious also will not pick it up... that is how poisonous our poison is... it's a poison within a poison within his mushy brains...

i bet you... he won't even see this few posts talking about him... subconsciously blinded..

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 02:10 PM

Vin_ann...you will buy Reynolds RZR...



you will lust for Reynolds RZR...



you will be sleepless until you get a set of Reynolds RZR



you will not have appetite even if Scarlett Johansson stand in front of you stark naked until you get a set of Reynold RZR



you will never forget the reynolds RZR until you get a set....



now... on the count to 3... you will wake up... get your wallet... take your credit card and order one set online and send it to butthead's house

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Added on August 7, 2012, 2:13 pmsorry... lunchtime boredom

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 02:16 PM

which one? B2B massage? yeah... damn technical tat one is... even google could not unravel that mystery... all thanks to miaopurr for introducing that techno jargon to us...

i didn't know cardboard can take a shit...

tell it to paul lew that his workmanship is poor and he will take some ultra high modulus 12k weave carbon tubes to come and stab you in the ass...






this is what you call bare carbon...

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Added on August 7, 2012, 2:26 pmthe price in USD but 10% of your bonus in rupiah can arrrr? i praying damn friggin hard for you that my laptop LCD screen just cracked... remember... deliver to my house you know...

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Added on August 7, 2012, 2:33 pmwith that much spent on a wheel.. nothing short of a nuclear bomb can come close to damaging a single carbon fibre on your wheel...

a crushproof pelican case you must get...
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This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 02:37 PM

i go on behalf of you to the run with chicks

stiffness has nothing to do with road resonance... stiff is when you stand on the pedals while you pull on the opposite side of the handlebar and feel that there is no torsional flex between the front end of your bike and the rear... that is an example of stiff...

in carbon bikes... stiff does not necessarily mean that it will be massively unforgiving... that is why through development and proper carbon layup methods... they can still achieve compliancy where it matters in a stiff carbon frame..

with chicks involved...didn't think of including you in my plan...

jus plain water will do...if you can take cold even better... cold water gets absorbed quicker..1 hour is just not long enough a sustained effort to require immediate replenishment of what you body needs...

the other reason is just in case you want to douse yourself on a hot day... you can do so with plain water... else, you will end up sticky and stuff...

jus replenish with sodium + carbo + sugar post ride...

of course la... because they sell fulcrum ma... you go to kh cycle... i bet they even tell you ksyrium elite is better than Fulcrum R0...

it is totally down to who you trust at the end of the day... if you can sneak a ride on a friends bike having those wheels to get a quick feel... even better...

the only reason like i mention to take fulcrum for myself is because i know that i will have backing in case my wheel goes kaput... not for any value or performance reasons... for you... the factors might be varyingly different...

depends on what you want... do you want low profile or slightly aero wheels?

Racing 5 and 7 are low profile wheels with only 24mm rim height, considered a different lineup to the quattro... while the racing quattro is fulcrum's try at alloy aero clinchers...and they are 35mm in height which is very hard to produce rims of such height and quite unheard off..

looking at on the sheet performance (i haven't ridden the quattros yet, but i owned before a set of 1st gen R7s) it could possibly be a stiffer wheel than either R5 or R7 due to bulkier rim...and at 1700 grams.. they are surprisingly lighter than the R5 too...

Quattros have 4 spokes less on the front wheel than the R5 and similar 21 spokes at the rear... this part baffles me as i am not sure how they saved the weight using a rim with more mass... i didn't really taken note to see if the quattro is using exactly the same hub as R5... but it does give some features like anti spoke rotation which is not on the R5 but the higher end model R3 2-way fit....

aesthetically.. i think the quattro is much fancier as well as you can clearly see the branding more with a taller rim... and the white "fulcrum" lettering looks good when the wheel is spinning... i am a sucker for spinning white letterings...

price wise.. i think the quattro is roughly around the range of R5 pricing at RM1.1k... the R7 is around RM700.. which is cheaper, but also a heavier set of wheels...

i guess your choice if you can afford is either the R5 or quattro.. and the R5 being a more expensive model if i am not wrong despite the quattro looking to beat it on paper... this in effect makes the quattro quite a worthy purchase....

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Added on August 7, 2012, 10:58 pmi got a shock of my life.. wanscycle is selling the quattro at RM880 and R5 at RM710...DANG

racing quattro
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/634

racing 5
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/609

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 7 2012, 10:58 PM

the true believers will say that fulcrum will not roll better as it uses the cartridge type cup-and-cone system... they believe the one that rolls faster is the older shimano loose ball type cup-and-cone system... whether true or not... no scientific evidence...

one thing for sure is faster with the fulcrum one is .... servicing time... jus dig old one out, take new one... aim and wham it in and you are done... shimano ones you will end up spending the time chasing each ball all over the bike shop (if you are not careful and there is a wild ball on the loose, they are loose wat)....

regarding rim replacements... i am gonna part zip (pardon the pun) my lip on this...

i believe there is replacement rims for fulcrum wheels...it's just an evil ploy that the bike shops don't want to bring them in cause it does not benefit them...

you've raised a very darn good point with this one especially in the long run...



This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 8 2012, 02:09 AM

haha... wish you good luck in rim searching...

maybe give godzilla cycles a try... since they got sell fulcrum

malaysia bike scene is getting worst for the old farts... .WHY!!!

i should start a cycling ranting blog

rant everything from too many boutique bike shops to girls not wearing shorts short enough...

haha.. say like you want to migrate there li tat...

i agree... worry so much... might as well use computrainer at home.. safe, got scenery and get to exercise...

wahlau... RM3k for 2nd hand... tak boleh la... people aim for RM1.5k only...

maybe that is C50.. but still not so expensive...

nanti your senior come and pancung your kelapa for recommending him something so expensive... me guarantee no go adi...

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Added on August 8, 2012, 12:26 pm
new twist clic applicator on motorex lubes for more precise application of lube.... not expected anywhere near your bike shop soon....



wish i had this on my tube of ky jelly... won't be squirting it all over the place

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 8 2012, 12:26 PM

i've never used morgan blue before... but i have used motorex...

my only complaint... chain gets dirty too fast even with the dry lube... price is cheap, no doubt...

motorex is quite famous in motorcross bikes and between petrol heads i heard...

wow... ultimates are crazy light.. sub 1200 grams rite? mavic's dream aero wheel...

you bought those babies for you caad10?


i on the other hand would prefer the R-SYS ultimate that ryder hesjedal used in his giro win..


This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 8 2012, 04:38 PM

walaueh... a bit dangerous leh... never heard of the brand before...

might as well you give the cina mali one a try...

i eyeballed this before, powerway brand... someone sold before on BBS.. but now hilang adi (smell a bit fishy)... i was too chicken shit to try it out...

http://cycleway.cn/products/product-103.html

<1500grams and hopefully if that is USD then price is < RM1.5k for a new set of wheels...

corratec i think is from cassie @ pinkbiketrading...

2011 model


this years model


it's not the best of bikes... but, if it ain't crashed before or in a terrible condition... RM5k is not a bad price for jus a year old... how much was it when new?

at the very least... it's not a china bike

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 8 2012, 05:44 PM