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 Kia K3 aka Kia Forte 2013 !, look naise

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post Jan 28 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 27 2013, 10:45 AM)
If the price exceeds rm86k and it doesn't have all the specs provided by the current 1.6SX Forte, I will not consider the K3.

Somehow I got a feeling Kia is going to go head on competition with the Elantra by selling it between rm96k to rm115k, just a hunch.

I am thinking of waiting for the moment when Kia launches the K3, then the unsold stock of Kia Forte would be given big block discounts.
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In my opinion, since there is a price gap between the K3 and Forte, there will NOT be any BIG discount, even when K3 is launched. In pricing sense, Forte is not really competing with K3. Just my 2 cents.



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post Jan 28 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 28 2013, 11:22 AM)
If that is true then in my opinion its not worth buying. What is the justification to raise the price of forte from rm86k to the new K3 to rm96k? There is no new technology, just face lift. Are you willing paying rm10k extra for the facelift? If you are, then be my guest but I am not paying a cent extra.
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The current generation Forte is actually based on Elantra HD platform.

Elantra HD is not the current Elantra MD, visual clarification this is the Elantra HD

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Yes, Forte shares the same platform as this 'hideous beast'

K3 will be using the same platform as Elantra MD, much like how Sonata MF jumped in price to Sonata YF as did the Optima to K5, expect the same with Forte to K3.

We're going to hear a lot of people singing 'If this price, Bye Bye K3' but still end up driving one when it launches.

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Jan 28 2013, 09:26 PM
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post Jan 28 2013, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 28 2013, 10:22 PM)
The current generation Forte is actually based on Elantra HD platform.

Elantra HD is not the current Elantra MD, visual clarification this is the Elantra HD

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So like I said, we're going to hear a lot of people singing 'If this price, Bye Bye K3' but still end up driving one when it launches.
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Yeah, but I got a tight budget. I can't spend more than rm86k on a car.
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post Jan 28 2013, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 28 2013, 09:25 PM)
Yeah, but I got a tight budget. I can't spend more than rm86k on a car.
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Doesn't mean the car isn't worth the value. Remember this is a C segment car, where many Japan marque are priced above 100k even for the most basic spec.
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post Jan 28 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 28 2013, 04:30 PM)
Doesn't mean the car isn't worth the value. Remember this is a C segment car, where many Japan marque are priced above 100k even for the most basic spec.
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hmm.gif how bout compare with preve?
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post Jan 28 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 28 2013, 10:30 PM)
Doesn't mean the car isn't worth the value. Remember this is a C segment car, where many Japan marque are priced above 100k even for the most basic spec.
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I thought kia forte is a b-segment car like city and vios.

Hah, those jap marques are not worth above 100k.

I test driven the toyota altis 1.6, no VSC ! , damn underpower and the price is 106k. To me its a total rip-off.


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post Jan 29 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 28 2013, 09:22 PM)
The current generation Forte is actually based on Elantra HD platform.

Elantra HD is not the current Elantra MD, visual clarification this is the Elantra HD

user posted image
Yes, Forte shares the same platform as this 'hideous beast'

K3 will be using the same platform as Elantra MD, much like how Sonata MF jumped in price to Sonata YF as did the Optima to K5, expect the same with Forte to K3.

We're going to hear a lot of people singing 'If this price, Bye Bye K3' but still end up driving one when it launches.
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Bro, could you let us know the source of this info? Is there a link to any website to verify this info?
Thanks.
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post Jan 30 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Jan 29 2013, 05:26 PM)
Bro, could you let us know the source of this info? Is there a link to any website to verify this info?
Thanks.
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It's everywhere on the internet, and using a logical argument, why would most preview of the K3 mention it'll be based on the new Elantra MD platform if the current Forte uses MD's platform? You would be reading 'No changes to the platform it is based on'.

Hard to believe but 'latest model' don't always means 'latest generation technology'.

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post Jan 31 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 30 2013, 09:27 PM)
It's everywhere on the internet, and using a logical argument, why would most preview of the K3 mention it'll be based on the new Elantra MD platform if the current Forte uses MD's platform? You would be reading 'No changes to the platform it is based on'.

Hard to believe but 'latest model' don't always means 'latest generation technology'.
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It's correct to say:

Forte shares Elantra HD platform
K3 shares Elantra MD platform.

When you mention "latest model," you meant Forte and not K3, I assume. Thanks.
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post Jan 31 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Jan 31 2013, 02:08 PM)
It's correct to say:

Forte shares Elantra HD platform
K3 shares Elantra MD platform.

When you mention "latest model," you meant Forte and not K3, I assume. Thanks.
What would be the engine capacity of the upcoming K3?
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post Jan 31 2013, 02:30 PM

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now the most important question

do you want to be seen driving in ah kia?


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post Feb 1 2013, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Jan 31 2013, 02:30 PM)
now the most important question

do you want to be seen driving in ah kia?
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Looking at the specs and the acceptable price tag on the all current Kia/Hyundai models, I would not mind it driving one. Plus, the 'K-pop' design have more thumbs up compare to what the current 'Shogun' car maker have to offer in Malaysia market today. Not to forget all the warranty and promotion it have. Very attractive.

Now, I'm sleepless after visiting and test driving the new Kia Optima. If only I could get a raise......now please.
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post Feb 1 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 31 2013, 02:17 PM)
What would be the engine capacity of the upcoming K3?
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Read from blogs, the Americans will get 1.8L and 2.0L. Koreans have 1.6L and 1.8L. Naza should bring in only 1.6L so that they don't kill the 1.8L in sales volume and resale value. This is by judging from the way they do with Forte 1.6 and 2.0, they did pretty badly with the 2.0L. That's NAZA only bring in 1 engine this time. Optima only have 2.0L, Sportage only 2.0L, Sorento only 2.4L.

Test unit also don't have, only have when there are owners that have not collected their cars. I don't even want to drive as it might damage somebody's car by revving hard before run in 1000km or increased the mileage, no longer 1st hand like that. So rich but no money to buy test unit with valid license plate for us to test drive each and every model?

The new Rio launched yesterday, I doubt they even have test unit. Next week or 2 might have, if I see no license plate, that should be some new early booked owner's car that they used for test drive. If they still do so, I will not buy Kia at all. Besides, Elantra looks better in overall, at least more original and it's designed by BMW ex-designers.

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post Feb 1 2013, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(goodguyextremist @ Feb 1 2013, 12:30 AM)
Read from blogs, the Americans will get 1.8L and 2.0L. Koreans have 1.6L and 1.8L. Naza should bring in only 1.6L so that they don't kill the 1.8L in sales volume and resale value. This is by judging from the way they do with Forte 1.6 and 2.0, they did pretty badly with the 2.0L. That's NAZA only bring in 1 engine this time. Optima only have 2.0L, Sportage only 2.0L, Sorento only 2.4L.

Test unit also don't have, only have when there are owners that have not collected their cars. I don't even want to drive as it might damage somebody's car by revving hard before run in 1000km or increased the mileage, no longer 1st hand like that. So rich but no money to buy test unit with valid license plate for us to test drive each and every model?

The new Rio launched yesterday, I doubt they even have test unit. Next week or 2 might have, if I see no license plate, that should be some new early booked owner's car that they used for test drive. If they still do so, I will not buy Kia at all. Besides, Elantra looks better in overall, at least more original and it's designed by BMW ex-designers.
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I think Korean only has 1.6 gdi engine rite hmm.gif got to know from KoreaKia website...
Btw, I think the sales of forte 2.0 is not bad la. Quite a lot of ppl driving.
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QUOTE(20v_ke35 @ Feb 1 2013, 12:09 AM)
Looking at the specs and the acceptable price tag on the all current Kia/Hyundai models, I would not mind it driving one. Plus, the 'K-pop' design have more thumbs up compare to what the current 'Shogun' car maker have to offer in Malaysia market today. Not to forget all the warranty and promotion it have. Very attractive.

Now, I'm sleepless after visiting and test driving the new Kia Optima. If only I could get a raise......now please.
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post Feb 4 2013, 10:17 AM

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still have feeling not secure with korean car eventho they throw good warranty.. how about their after sales service ya?
AFAIK, toyota is the best coz they keep in touch with u asking about ur car, any problem with it n etc.. nice after sales service.. honda is going that direction too, for mazda n nissan not sure.. so kia?
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Feb 4 2013, 10:17 AM)
still have feeling not secure with korean car eventho they throw good warranty.. how about their after sales service ya?
AFAIK, toyota is the best coz they keep in touch with u asking about ur car, any problem with it n etc.. nice after sales service.. honda is going that direction too, for mazda n nissan not sure.. so kia?
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I would say that Kia after sales service is more o less same with Toyota.
It depends on which sc u visit.
Not all Toyota or Kia sc is the same, I mean in terms of service level.

FYI, I owned a Toyota vios for 7 years and forte for 2 years, that s y I know it very well smile.gif
In fact Kia made cars are reliable and better a lot compared to Toyota made, just engine a bit under refinement.
The rest better than Toyota! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Feb 4 2013, 10:49 AM)
I would say that Kia after sales service is more o less same with Toyota.
It depends on which sc u visit.
Not all Toyota or Kia sc is the same, I mean in terms of service level.

FYI, I owned a Toyota vios for 7 years and forte for 2 years, that s y I know it very well smile.gif
In fact Kia made cars are reliable and better a lot compared to Toyota made, just engine a bit under refinement.
The rest better than Toyota! thumbup.gif
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I usually go to the Toyota SC at belakong/Cheras Selatan. They never send me any reminder also. But i have stopped visiting them since my car is not under warranty anymore. Never own a Kia yet, but i m quite interested to find out more about K3 ... if not then K5 biggrin.gif
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post Feb 4 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(jootat @ Feb 4 2013, 10:53 AM)
I usually go to the Toyota SC at belakong/Cheras Selatan.  They never send me any reminder also.  But i have stopped visiting them since my car is not under warranty anymore.  Never own a Kia yet, but i m quite interested to find out more about K3 ... if not then K5 biggrin.gif
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Give it a try man, for me, I never regret! cool2.gif
Some more the resale value not bad too. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Feb 4 2013, 10:49 AM)
I would say that Kia after sales service is more o less same with Toyota.
It depends on which sc u visit.
Not all Toyota or Kia sc is the same, I mean in terms of service level.

FYI, I owned a Toyota vios for 7 years and forte for 2 years, that s y I know it very well smile.gif
In fact Kia made cars are reliable and better a lot compared to Toyota made, just engine a bit under refinement.
The rest better than Toyota! thumbup.gif
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woa.. ok, which kia SC is good ya? yup, even some of Toyota SC is bad.. i went to shah alam toyota SC, they really take care their customers..

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