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TSrockroll5022
post Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM, updated 14y ago

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I know there may be some of you may know or disagree about this, but hey i am just trying to share and let other people who didn't know to try out !



Well, u can always switch to tank demon hunter which i think is ridiculously OVERPOWERED ! i know what will people say, "If you wanna play tank, play barb or monk better". i will explain why a demon hunter can be as tank-ish as barb later on. The following are the reasons why you (fellow demon hunter friends!! biggrin.gif) should give Tanker Demon Hunter Build a try :

- you will not die easily and at the same time, saving repair bills
- you can invest more in the equipment but to get the basic tank equipment, 1m to 1.5m is enough !
- I spent less than 1.5m and i can beat inferno mode (excluding Siegebreaker because i don't have enough DPS to kill him before enrage so i have to party with a dps friend to inflict damage while i tank in front)
- I can kill ghom without dropping a single hp (unless sometimes i am too lazy to move my fingers) and kill butcher AFK overnight (my follower do all the damage while i stand there)

MY CURRENT BUILD

3.8k armour
700 AR
60khp (not full set yet)
1.3k LoH
8k DPS - no SS
39.5% crit-chance
LIFE REGEN - 3k per second

MY SKILL
CLICK HERE TO SEE TANK DEMON HUNTER SKILL


YES LIFE REGEN IS THE KEY TO THIS THING. many people may think that life regen sucks and useless but i am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Think about stacking LoH and Life regen at the same time. from my build, i am gaining 3k hp per sec + 1.3k hp per hit (I am using grenade which makes it massive aoe damage).. For one second, i gained about 6.9k hp (assuming my grenade hits 3 creeps)

Back to the first question of the post, why demon hunter can tank as good as barb/monk class? because demon hunter has skills to REDUCE MASSIVE INCOMING DAMAGE.

- caltrops with numbing traps (REDUCING 25% DAMAGE)
- sentry with guardian turret (REDUCING 15% DAMAGE)
- shadow power with gloom (REDUCING 65% DAMAGE)

-TOTAL REDUCE BY 105% INCOMING DAMAGE

NOT ENOUGH DISCIPLINE TO SPAM ALL THE SKILL?
- increase your max discipline (minimum 40 recommended 50) (currently 45 for me but will be upgrading to 50)
- get critical chance a minimum of 40% and use Night Stalker Passive Skill (gain one disc per critical hit inflicted)
- NOW U CAN HAVE UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF DISC TO USE FOR SHADOW POWER, CALTROPS, AND SENTRY

LOW DPS?
- YES this is a tank build so we are going to throw DPS out of window but u can still do massive damage and even kill elites.
- u will be using CALTROPS (normally i will stack 5 caltrops on the ground)
- and empty your hatred with either spike traps or chakaram with shuriken cloud


In all, i am not saying this is a perfect build but i am still looking to make it even better.. Just saying - this build can tank as good as barb/monk with less than 1.5m worth of equipment, so it is worth trying to be honest. I just wanna share my opinion to all of you fellow friends.

BTW anyone that wants to see this build in action before investing 1.5m gold, feel free to add me in the game. Alrighty, peace out !!

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:47 PM

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about the same stats + skills + concept
main diff is that i have higher dps + crit so that i can solo . no regen lol (maybe a couple of hundreds?).

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jul 25 2012, 05:51 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM

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I played at public game last night.
And met 2 tankers, a Demon Hunter and a Wizard.

I rate Wizard a better tanker because he can froze the monsters.

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post Jul 25 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
I played at public game last night.
And met 2 tankers, a Demon Hunter and a Wizard.

I rate Wizard a better tanker because he can froze the monsters.
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yeah i met one tank wizard in the public game too.. good tanker but still i am a better tank.. we were in act 3 on quest to kill ghom (4 players - tank wiz, tank monk, glass cannon demon hunter and me).. in the end, i am the one left standing - solo-ing ghom while others stays in the corner to avoid ghom's fart gas..
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
I played at public game last night.
And met 2 tankers, a Demon Hunter and a Wizard.

I rate Wizard a better tanker because he can froze the monsters.
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freezing is not really tanking ... it is more creep controlling ...
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM)
I know there may be some of you may know or disagree about this, but hey i am just trying to share and let other people who didn't know to try out !
Well, u can always switch to tank demon hunter which i think is ridiculously OVERPOWERED ! i know what will people say, "If you wanna play tank, play barb or monk better". i will explain why a demon hunter can be as tank-ish as barb later on. The following are the reasons why you (fellow demon hunter friends!! biggrin.gif) should give Tanker Demon Hunter Build a try :

- you will not die easily and at the same time, saving repair bills
- you can invest more in the equipment but to get the basic tank equipment, 1m to 1.5m is enough !
- I spent less than 1.5m and i can beat inferno mode (excluding Siegebreaker because i don't have enough DPS to kill him before enrage so i have to party with a dps friend to inflict damage while i tank in front)
- I can kill ghom without dropping a single hp (unless sometimes i am too lazy to move my fingers) and kill butcher AFK overnight (my follower do all the damage while i stand there)

MY CURRENT BUILD

3.8k armour
700 AR
60khp (not full set yet)
1.3k LoH
8k DPS - no SS
39.5% crit-chance
LIFE REGEN - 3k per second

MY SKILL
CLICK HERE TO SEE TANK DEMON HUNTER SKILL
YES LIFE REGEN IS THE KEY TO THIS THING. many people may think that life regen sucks and useless but i am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Think about stacking LoH and Life regen at the same time. from my build, i am gaining 3k hp per sec + 1.3k hp per hit (I am using grenade which makes it massive aoe damage).. For one second, i gained about 6.9k hp (assuming my grenade hits 3 creeps)

Back to the first question of the post, why demon hunter can tank as good as barb/monk class? because demon hunter has skills to REDUCE MASSIVE INCOMING DAMAGE.

- caltrops with numbing traps (REDUCING 25% DAMAGE)
- sentry with guardian turret (REDUCING 15% DAMAGE)
- shadow power with gloom (REDUCING 65% DAMAGE)

-TOTAL REDUCE BY 105% INCOMING DAMAGE

NOT ENOUGH DISCIPLINE TO SPAM ALL THE SKILL?
- increase your max discipline (minimum 40 recommended 50) (currently 45 for me but will be upgrading to 50)
- get critical chance a minimum of 40% and use Night Stalker Passive Skill (gain one disc per critical hit inflicted)
- NOW U CAN HAVE UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF DISC TO USE FOR SHADOW POWER, CALTROPS, AND SENTRY

LOW DPS?
- YES this is a tank build so we are going to throw DPS out of window but u can still do massive damage and even kill elites.
- u will be using CALTROPS (normally i will stack 5 caltrops on the ground)
- and empty your hatred with either spike traps or chakaram with shuriken cloud
In all, i am not saying this is a perfect build but i am still looking to make it even better.. Just saying - this build can tank as good as barb/monk with less than 1.5m worth of equipment, so it is worth trying to be honest. I just wanna share my opinion to all of you fellow friends.

BTW anyone that wants to see this build in action before investing 1.5m gold, feel free to add me in the game. Alrighty, peace out !!
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nice regen there bro. but dps abit low hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 25 2012, 05:47 PM)
about the same stats + skills + concept
main diff is that i have higher dps + crit so that i can solo . no regen lol (maybe a couple of hundreds?).
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haha tanker rocks... maybe if u throw in some life regen, u will be golden.. LOL.. how much dps 1 handed crossbow are u using??


Added on July 25, 2012, 5:56 pm
QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 25 2012, 05:53 PM)
nice regen there bro. but dps abit low  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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yeah it is due to my weapon actually.. hopefully i can get a decent one to increase it.. however i mainly use traps to inflict damage !!

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 25 2012, 05:56 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:55 PM)
haha tanker rocks... maybe if u throw in some life regen, u will be golden.. LOL.. how much dps 1 handed crossbow are u using??
too dam expensive man ... high dex vit ar regen armor gear ... sometimes u cant even find it tongue.gif
~900 with + dex + 70% crit
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 25 2012, 05:59 PM)
too dam expensive man ... high dex vit ar regen armor gear ... sometimes u cant even find it tongue.gif
~900 with + dex + 70% crit
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lol no wonder u have high dps... critical damage on your weapon.. for me, i am looking for +10 max disc , LoH minimum 700 and 150+ vit... don't really care about the dps..
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:08 PM

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Since we're at it, here's my friend's Tank Hunter build for those who are interested.

Stats and items below:

Shield:
http://i.imgur.com/SD5bN.jpg

Dual-Wield:
http://i.imgur.com/9PeH9.jpg

Skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;VXe!ccbYcb

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jul 25 2012, 06:08 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:19 PM

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Me oso a bit tank build DH,
30k hp
4.7k armor
680 AR
Discipline 44,
Critical damage 158%
Critical chance 51.5%
Dps without ss 30k

No problem in act 2 but act 3 a bit hard..
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:27 PM

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DH needs more nerf since they can kill Inferno Diablo totally naked.
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 25 2012, 06:27 PM)
DH needs more nerf since they can kill Inferno Diablo totally naked.
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u try naked? Vid pls.. pls dun tell me it killed naked by Athene..

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post Jul 25 2012, 06:59 PM

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Damm it leave the tanking to us barbs..
its all we can do... why why why......
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post Jul 25 2012, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jul 25 2012, 06:59 PM)
Damm it leave the tanking to us barbs..
its all we can do... why why why......
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im leaving it to u.. glass cannon is more fun for me.. full dps 1 hit kill is way to go.. if wanna tank i'll play monk or barb
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post Jul 25 2012, 07:17 PM

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moogleee! please do livestream of your TANK DH!

/inb4 lulz
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:05 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXby5EWUCY4

Tank Loh Built
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post Jul 25 2012, 09:37 PM

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nice build bro
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QUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM)
- caltrops with numbing traps (REDUCING 25% DAMAGE)
- sentry with guardian turret (REDUCING 15% DAMAGE)
- shadow power with gloom (REDUCING 65% DAMAGE)

-TOTAL REDUCE BY 105% INCOMING DAMAGE
Its not additive.
I think the maths works like this:

1-((1-0.25)*(1-0.15)*(1-0.65)) = 1-(0.75*0.85*0.35) = 0.78 or 78% dmg reduction

For loh/hp regen, both are reliable.
Hp regen ticks every 0.5 sec(half of the displayed value), and loh depends on your attack speed.

But since dh has imba skill loh multiplier+crazy ticks per second, loh are more valuable.

For pvp oriented players, balanced approach is more optimal, since I dont think caltrops/grenades/turret will be as reliable in arena.
Also, I think vit(hp) plays an important role too.Its useless to have high armor/res if your hp are like 20k only.For this I think a helm with amethyst socketed in is a must for any tank/balanced dh.( which I dont have yet tongue.gif )

p/s:crazy regen+hp man thumbup.gif

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post Jul 25 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 25 2012, 06:27 PM)
DH needs more nerf since they can kill Inferno Diablo totally naked.
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Added on July 25, 2012, 10:59 pm
QUOTE(DrLaboo @ Jul 25 2012, 07:17 PM)
moogleee! please do livestream of your TANK DH!

/inb4 lulz
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This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 25 2012, 10:59 PM

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