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post Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM, updated 14y ago

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I know there may be some of you may know or disagree about this, but hey i am just trying to share and let other people who didn't know to try out !



Well, u can always switch to tank demon hunter which i think is ridiculously OVERPOWERED ! i know what will people say, "If you wanna play tank, play barb or monk better". i will explain why a demon hunter can be as tank-ish as barb later on. The following are the reasons why you (fellow demon hunter friends!! biggrin.gif) should give Tanker Demon Hunter Build a try :

- you will not die easily and at the same time, saving repair bills
- you can invest more in the equipment but to get the basic tank equipment, 1m to 1.5m is enough !
- I spent less than 1.5m and i can beat inferno mode (excluding Siegebreaker because i don't have enough DPS to kill him before enrage so i have to party with a dps friend to inflict damage while i tank in front)
- I can kill ghom without dropping a single hp (unless sometimes i am too lazy to move my fingers) and kill butcher AFK overnight (my follower do all the damage while i stand there)

MY CURRENT BUILD

3.8k armour
700 AR
60khp (not full set yet)
1.3k LoH
8k DPS - no SS
39.5% crit-chance
LIFE REGEN - 3k per second

MY SKILL
CLICK HERE TO SEE TANK DEMON HUNTER SKILL


YES LIFE REGEN IS THE KEY TO THIS THING. many people may think that life regen sucks and useless but i am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Think about stacking LoH and Life regen at the same time. from my build, i am gaining 3k hp per sec + 1.3k hp per hit (I am using grenade which makes it massive aoe damage).. For one second, i gained about 6.9k hp (assuming my grenade hits 3 creeps)

Back to the first question of the post, why demon hunter can tank as good as barb/monk class? because demon hunter has skills to REDUCE MASSIVE INCOMING DAMAGE.

- caltrops with numbing traps (REDUCING 25% DAMAGE)
- sentry with guardian turret (REDUCING 15% DAMAGE)
- shadow power with gloom (REDUCING 65% DAMAGE)

-TOTAL REDUCE BY 105% INCOMING DAMAGE

NOT ENOUGH DISCIPLINE TO SPAM ALL THE SKILL?
- increase your max discipline (minimum 40 recommended 50) (currently 45 for me but will be upgrading to 50)
- get critical chance a minimum of 40% and use Night Stalker Passive Skill (gain one disc per critical hit inflicted)
- NOW U CAN HAVE UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF DISC TO USE FOR SHADOW POWER, CALTROPS, AND SENTRY

LOW DPS?
- YES this is a tank build so we are going to throw DPS out of window but u can still do massive damage and even kill elites.
- u will be using CALTROPS (normally i will stack 5 caltrops on the ground)
- and empty your hatred with either spike traps or chakaram with shuriken cloud


In all, i am not saying this is a perfect build but i am still looking to make it even better.. Just saying - this build can tank as good as barb/monk with less than 1.5m worth of equipment, so it is worth trying to be honest. I just wanna share my opinion to all of you fellow friends.

BTW anyone that wants to see this build in action before investing 1.5m gold, feel free to add me in the game. Alrighty, peace out !!

This post has been edited by rockroll5022: Jul 25 2012, 05:40 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
I played at public game last night.
And met 2 tankers, a Demon Hunter and a Wizard.

I rate Wizard a better tanker because he can froze the monsters.
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yeah i met one tank wizard in the public game too.. good tanker but still i am a better tank.. we were in act 3 on quest to kill ghom (4 players - tank wiz, tank monk, glass cannon demon hunter and me).. in the end, i am the one left standing - solo-ing ghom while others stays in the corner to avoid ghom's fart gas..
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 25 2012, 05:47 PM)
about the same stats + skills + concept
main diff is that i have higher dps + crit so that i can solo . no regen lol (maybe a couple of hundreds?).
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haha tanker rocks... maybe if u throw in some life regen, u will be golden.. LOL.. how much dps 1 handed crossbow are u using??


Added on July 25, 2012, 5:56 pm
QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 25 2012, 05:53 PM)
nice regen there bro. but dps abit low  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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yeah it is due to my weapon actually.. hopefully i can get a decent one to increase it.. however i mainly use traps to inflict damage !!

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post Jul 25 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 25 2012, 05:59 PM)
too dam expensive man ... high dex vit ar regen armor gear ... sometimes u cant even find it tongue.gif
~900 with + dex + 70% crit
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lol no wonder u have high dps... critical damage on your weapon.. for me, i am looking for +10 max disc , LoH minimum 700 and 150+ vit... don't really care about the dps..
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post Jul 26 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 09:33 AM)
Normal to Hell mode, yes, Barb could be pretty good tanker.
When it comes to Inferno, Barb is no tanker (unless you have good like gears).
Barb is VERY gear dependent.
This is why you see those powerful Barbs in Inferno opt for DPS and kill-the-monster-fast.
Simply because Barb can't tank in Inferno.
Barb has no healing skills. Barb can't do range attack. Barb has to go melee but on a pool of fire+poison+arcane+invulnerable+shield fast elites?
Barb can only kill the enemy fast, as fast as he can to survive.
God-like DPS, meaning you need to spend HUGE amount on weapon and gears.

Monk is better tanker than Barb most of the time (despite lower armor + resistance). Thanks to the healing skills.
It is way way lower cost to maintain Monk too.
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yes this is what i thought so.. barb requires really good EQ to progress in inferno.. i am not sure about the lower cost to maintain monk though because as far as i know, dex equipment are the most expensive basic stat in the game..


Added on July 26, 2012, 9:43 am
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 26 2012, 09:38 AM)
show me.
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actually i am kinda agree with wizards having the ability to kill diablo naked.. if u fight diablo long enough, u will know the movement of it.. like what skill is he going to use next.. with that in mind, it is kinda easy to predict and avoid these attacks with diamond skin, just like what demon hunter did with ss..

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post Jul 26 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 25 2012, 09:37 PM)
nice build bro
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thanks.. it is quite a nice build though with the total cost less than 1.5m only !!
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 10:10 AM)
like i posted on the other monk thread. its the other way around.

price is determined by DEMAND.

str gears are only demanded by 1 class - barb
dex gears are demanded by TWO classes - DH/monk

its easy to know who gets the more expensive gear just by this.
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yeap.. simple marketing system.. more demand more expensive.. the same goes to int but D3 is overloaded with more dex players compared to int players, thus making dex the most expensive stat in the game..
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:28 PM

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Those of you who doubt about my build, this is my master's video.. there is one video that he exposed his tank wizard and maybe u guys can learn from there.. i don't have a wizard so i can't try..
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post Jul 27 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(tigery @ Jul 27 2012, 02:49 AM)
Doesn't tank build dh already appeared long time ago? US battlenet forum has already v4 thread, same build, the difference is just the gear but actually not much difference, AR/vit/loh/life reg
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yes it has been a long time but there are still tons of people in this forum don't believe in this build.. said 'AFK kill butcher LMFAO'.. lol i am just trying to prove here..
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post Jul 27 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Jul 27 2012, 12:52 PM)
thanks for the sharing..i will copy your build

all my other heroes are tanker except DH...now i know what to do biggrin.gif
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THIS MAY BE THE GUIDE FOR YOU..


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post Jul 27 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Jul 27 2012, 12:58 PM)
thanks bro, will save it for reference

hopefully those gear price not increase so much when my DH reach level 60


Added on July 27, 2012, 1:01 pm
i am so love it LOL

3000dps...hahaha
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those hp regen stuff u can get it pretty cheap.. it has no value to the market.. haha.. ol i got 3k dps because i spent less gold in weapon.. i am using 300+ dps weapon 1 handed crossbow (who would use that for god's sake? rclxub.gif ).. but i just wanna try the build so i budget myself to a certain limit.. thumbup.gif right now i will glady upgrade my gear to make it at least 10k dps..

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post Jul 27 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 27 2012, 01:30 PM)
The price is still ok. I got a 750 DPS 1 handed with 950 LoH for 600k buyout. Lol...I guess after this the prices might just go nuts..but I must say I freaking funni to play this way...Just stand there..face off ...and pew pew pew... I am using granades and Chakram ...dual weilding cause I got another xbow with 600 LoH. Total LoH about 2k and regen about 900.. why I use chakram is that I get 4 charam and ny chest armour less 3 hatred for chakram I just spam charam and cluster bomb all the way...

Hilariuos and skilless ..but damn fun ... smile.gif
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o.O.. u using dual wielding? i never tired before.. btw the crossbow i am looking for is not cheap in the market.. i want LoH at least 800, +minimum 7 disc and +minimum 160 vit.. LOL.. i need to get my hp at least 70k.. drool.gif


Added on July 27, 2012, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 01:36 PM)
Barb: ok pack your bags boys, we goin back to the north pole

Monk: sad.gif
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haha not really man.. if investing more gold, barb and monk can beat demon hunter anytime... it is just the gear for tank build demon hunter too damn cheap... maybe barb + regen hp = god??? no one really try that before...

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post Jul 27 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 27 2012, 02:17 PM)
nah ... i have a tank monk friend , only 15k dps but almost max regen + LoH + 900AR , 4k armor ... tank like a boss ... can plays with only 1 hand in act3/4 unless crazy elites
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so the KEY word... REGEN... icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 27 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 27 2012, 03:47 PM)
Ya bro..dual weild xbow..cause the Loh can stack..>loh 800 is quite common..but 7 disc??? I run with base 30 Disc..cause I use prep..of course would love +10 Disc cloak with regen  500++. I think the key to this build is AR> Vit>LoH> Regen>Amour

Need to survive the 1-2 hits and then claim back life. I trying to toy with the idea of Life after Kill/ Life steal (eventhough 70% reduction is crap) but...grenades deals huge damage lor..

I really think Blizzy is going to nerf LoH soon... I think its just too easy to build a LoH tanker naw....
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haha i am using cloak +10 disc and regen 300+.. then i just bought 2 crossbow - 690+ dps, +7disc, +160vit, 800+ LoH another 350+dps +8disc +230vit +900+LoH... if i dual wielding, i will have disc 55 >.<.. but i don't think i will do that because i need critical hit chance from the shield which is 8.5.. i am using prep also but i need more disc to spam shadow power - gloom if tanking too many creep.. u got stack critical hit chance for night stalker??
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post Jul 27 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 27 2012, 04:42 PM)
Yeah it will be a bad idea if you dual yiled as your weapon not synergised..690dps + 350Dps..is too far apart. I was lucky cause I found a 750 Dps handxbow with 150 dex and 50 vit + 600 LoH. So when I saw a 750 xbow with 150 Vit + 950 LoH sapu cepat cepat for 600k. So..overall my DPS still same..average 750. . I have a nice amulet with 150Vit, 9% Life and 270 LoH, 31 MF and rings with dex vit and 100+ LoH. With the modifiers my DPS now is at 15k DPS. HP 50k, AR 550..just want to increase the life regen abit since just tinkered with the AR, so its now at 300/sec. I think about 700 should be good enough.

Not stacking crit chance..I think its about 18% Crit damage =50% nia..hahaha, hence not using night stalker. Passive I am using ..grenadier as I use cluster bombs, and the usual steady aim/archery. smile.gif. Most of the time I think 30 disc is sufficient, unless the Oh..shite..SS. Might try Gloom..but with close to 2k LoH...dont think need the extra life back. The damage mitigation of gloom is nice...but I am thinking maybe use sentry..with shiled/heal + extra damage smile.gif.

All in all its an experimental build ..for the kicks. Kinda tired of kiting...running away from elites. Ahaha.
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well man we can experiment together some other times bro.. maybe we can build the most tankiest out there.. haha.. add me my battle tag is at the bottom... hey man u don't have to use steady aim.. add damage in range but not face to face..

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post Jul 30 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Jul 28 2012, 02:57 PM)
Now wearing full set Nataya to be a super tanker. Try will solo diablo inferno to9 again. Yesterday just beat the 1st diablo and 2nd diablo shadow but die in last diablo. 30 dis can't finish because regen 3 per second.
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(legiwei @ Jul 30 2012, 10:10 AM)
Anyway guys, talking about tank DH, how will you think this build will fare in HC? Chances of survival better than normal ranged DH?
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erm not sure about it.. but i do heard one of my friend said that hp regen items in HC are incredibly overpriced.. so i think it is not worth it...

 

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