They once said a product based company has to be under kpdnhep not bnm. Is that true? As mcocean is not an investment company so it doesn't have to be under bnm.

if kpdnhep is revoked what other excuse they can give on the legality of the business.. 🤔

the lampe berger Mlm was marketed through the notorious marketing ARM "DCHL/ RZ corporation", focusing on STOKIST SCHEME too, means focussing on recruiting which don't even bother if there members can’t sell their products and have stocks piling up like a mountain in their home.

Just like this mcocean now, distribution is done through different entity which is Steady dynasty/ Midea. Imaging what kind of loopholes and escaping tactics they are adopting? There is nowhere u can find the name of distribution arm SD group and Midea group in mcocean's website.

LampeBerger Paris partnered with this company call DCHL to market the product in Asia. LB product is very mat salleh oriented so they needed an Asian company to help with Asian market, so they partner with a vietnamese guy (still the chairman now) and DCHL is born and DCHL became the sole distributor for LB in ASIA market. DCHL decided that mlm methods is the most effective way to market such a mat salleh product to asian culture and created a mlm plan that is different from other mlm companies of that time (amway, elken, etc). a very business oriented plan rather than a salesman oriented plan, in other words big amount vs small amount and high profit margin vs small profit margin. the plan that we see in mcocean today, the option of start small or start big and it's less complicated as compared to other mlm plans of that time. you can google their plan to check it out of curiosity you will find it's almost the same as mcocean. understand the plan so you can understand whats coming soon

As start they went for the chinese market like any other mat salleh business because of the population and the chinese business mind culture. china's law is super anti-mlm so the next great place to start while targeting a lot of the chinese is hong kong and taiwan. at first everyone is still using the small plan method that is more selling product oriented because that's the mindset of the people that time. taiwan network did very well in this as compared to hong kong but hk is doing pretty good themselves. Until one day, they found this guy call Steven Yeam. hes a malaysian styaing in hk

Steven Yeam is a very big biz mindset guy. he want big money fast and he found a very easy and legal biz for him to do that. what was he doing before was unknown but some legend say he was in a conman group that create con biz to con ppl money. the chinese version of wolf of wallstreet. He created his strategy to focus on stockist rather than slow slow sell product to rank up. it exploded. he's the first to reach duke level and created a lot of dukes. then he brought the biz to malaysia and boom it here and created a lot of dukes here.

for mlm company to get a license in malaysia requires a lot of procedure. so they took the shortcut of buying over rz corporation, which is an existing and dying mlm company doing beauty products. the people of that company are the legendary steven yeam leaders that came out to do monspace, mface, mcren oceanus, etc. their hq is in hla building in kl. in order to open more branch, its also another set of procedure so they took another easier way out, creating an independent company as a "marketing arm" for dchl call steven yeam network (SYN). they later found this method is highly effective as it takes away ethical risk away from the main company hence main company will always be clean legally. any issue they will just blame of the "marketing arm" company, close it down, create a new one.

SYN went on doing super well and created a lot of dukes (leaders) in many countries. Some of them even branch out and form their own "marketing arm". When lampe berger start to have bad name and eventually pull out from dchl, many of the leaders including steven yeam himself move on to create their own new mlms / money games / cons. One community, yslm, mface, monspace, etc. are all created by "leaders" from SYN. There's this particular leader group in jb had the mind of their own. they wanted to be company owner instead of another "marketing arm" lead and they had some disagreement with steven yeam, so they came out created steady global network and mcren oceanus (not partner. is their own). applying the similar modus operandi and now they are also the owner for better decision making. perfect combination for fast and big money making legally. then the rest is what we already know as Mcocean

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I think this is constructive comments, no contains inflammatory or libelous remarks.
I pasti kompani akan baca ....
Ini saya TAK Konfuse...

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Aiyo, I Konfuse.
This post displaying Kompani do good CRS what...
Then, why MWW accuse "censor it if it doesn't suit the agenda" hypocrisy.??
Why I see also many pro-Mcxxxxx kena removed...?? :confused:
Posts hentam Kompani kena remove you say hypocrp....lalahyo
I Konfuse  :confused:

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Ya, it must be a fair ground for
Fair and Just Discussion .
No malicious intention,  No Inflammation,  No Defamatory remarks. No spamming.
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My Post on 2019June08, reported n REMOVED.

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So, MWW n others boleh say saya Terbodoh, Don't want to argue with stupid people.
But , when I say the same, KENA REPORT and Removed.
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So, Malaysians,  see and read yourselves.
Make your own decisions sendiri.
Jangan Konfuse.
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Aiyo, DONT just say, dont just accuse ?
Dare to provide details ?
Dare to go direct to McOcean management to report and provide details ?
or, just drama , accuse only.
Konfuse saya. That is what happened to Pp Muxxxxx was TERMINATED. His cheating downlune money case was even brought to court by the victims
You orang tunggu, I pergi korek more info....
BUT, again, dont accuse saya leak info lah. Court case info is OPEN to public.
Nanti I korek court case number, then I bagi sini.
BUT, jangan report my post lah. Then How i boleh clarify.
Quote:"Fair and Just Discussion."
See Malaysian,
You go to police station, do you just say I got cheated, BUT WITHOUT providing anythings. Can or will police siasat ?
How to siasat, when no details is given to police ?
Konfuse saya.
Betul betul drama.
If a member or even Top Leader cheat money, this is CRIMINAL act.
Go to make police report Mr. XXXX cheating, provide details.
I am sure police will investigate.
And their membership will be terminated by company.
Ini Tak Confuse.

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Ini macam yang u mau tengok kah?

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See, I sudah cakap.
7 of my Posts got Reported...
If we Don't follow their drama script, these people here Tak syok, report to Remove your posts spamming, trolling.

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They clam to be Fair and Just Discussion.
They always like to Raise n Ask a question,
But the moment you Try to klarify n answer, they Tak syok, report you.
See, their intention is very clear, to simply ask a Wrong question, to create WRONG impression to public.
Accusing others try to spam biz , Trolling.
See carefully, WHO is really trolling here.

Jangan konfuse. 😃

I'm glad that finally someone who could speak and think objectively, but actually like Neutralite said, for once we tried to answer in proper and professional methods, but the result is that people over here just wouldn't accept it. It is to the extend that even the company do charity events they want to start flaming.

Yesterday I already said this business is like opening a shop, some could do while some just can't, but mco provide buy back balance unsold product for those who don't want to continue, which means at least sell back the products to company and get back the capitals is better than all of your capital is gone, right? then one of them said about the rate things and come out with a link to it, then after I read, I'm like come on, why don't he/she talk about :

"People quit MLM easier than other ventures. Because the start-up investment in MLM is much smaller than in traditional small business, it's also easier to quit. It's easier to walk away from a $100 than $5,000 or $25,000. "

"MLM is less expensive than other business opportunities. While Taylor indicates large sums of money are required for MLM, compared to many other businesses, the investment is small. "

Did he/she talk about this?these are in the same research what. Also, this is in the same research:

"Many reps struggle because they don't treat their MLM like the business it is. For some reason, many MLM businesses are viewed and treated differently than a traditional business, which is a problem. It doesn't matter what business you start, if you don't market, sell, and do the activities that make money on a consistent basis, your business will fail. "

For the Buy Back Policy issue in the same post, I think I will answer in the same sequence:
1. I asked the same question to the company (Because I have not face this situation before), the company said they have already feedback to PP who practices this unfair method, if the same thing still happen then feedback to the company to take action
2. Yes, some cunning partners/ex partners did that, like the insurance agents story, no need to repeat again, if got/know this kind of upline/sideline/downline, please feedback to the company to investigate and screw him/her
3. When a member do direct selling, that is the BASIC thing what, please, at least should know the products. If DON'T try it yourself, how to share n sell to customers? Imagine, if customers ask, What taste is it and you don't know, then how to answer?
4. Members are Independent Distributor of direct selling company, they are doing their own business. Business got own expenses. Some activities are done by members themselves. If it is their OWN activities, shouldn't they themselves contribute to their own activities, by providing products for their lucky draw? Even if is their own activities, company ALWAYS Sponsor something to them. Hampers for example, what else do these people expect more?These ex-members try to paint Wrong picture,  as if company "forcing" them.

SO, to conclude, is it easier to open a shop outside? do the government or bank will buy whatever there is left in your shop? they just want to talk about something they want

Yesterday I already said this business is like opening a shop, some could do while some just can't, but mco provide buy back balance unsold product for those who don't want to continue, which means at least sell back the products to company and get back the capitals is better than all of your capital is gone, right? then one of them said about the rate things and come out with a link to it, then after I read, I'm like come on, why don't he/she talk about :

"People quit MLM easier than other ventures. Because the start-up investment in MLM is much smaller than in traditional small business, it's also easier to quit. It's easier to walk away from a $100 than $5,000 or $25,000. "

"MLM is less expensive than other business opportunities. While Taylor indicates large sums of money are required for MLM, compared to many other businesses, the investment is small. "

"Many reps struggle because they don't treat their MLM like the business it is. For some reason, many MLM businesses are viewed and treated differently than a traditional business, which is a problem. It doesn't matter what business you start, if you don't market, sell, and do the activities that make money on a consistent basis, your business will fail. "

She said my picture has been circulated around in Mc Ocean groups by some irresponsible KPs, asking partners to stay away from me because I am negative and not a good person...etc lol

By the way Geek Goblin 123, you might want to add to your long list of questions pending to be answered:

If your Mc Ocean is so called same like other businesses, people opt to do other businesses by knowing the business name and products and services 1st before even approaching the distributor to discuss about dealership. But in Mc Ocean case, you hide your company name during the 1st meeting and 2nd meeting. Then reveal the name and products during the third meeting in which you immediately force people to sign up. This is the very beginning part of doing business with you, HOW ON EARTH IS THIS EVEN CLOSE TO DOING RETAIL BUSINESS? FIRST STEP ALSO DODGY. Real businesses are not scared to reveal their name from the beginning regardless of negative publicity. All products has negative publicity. But your problem is, your business model itself is negative. So dont tell us Mc Ocean is a business like the rest. You failed from step 1 itself.