My advice to Mcocean:

1. Get rid of the MLM distribution arm Midea/SD Group/Steady Dynasty. Go back to conventional business like what Lampberger did back in 2009/2010.

2. Put in more money into R&D, advertising, and marketing. Can you make your products look more professional? The current product design are so badly done. How do you want to convince your buyers to purchase a RM700+ Enerti, RM5k water filter and RM300+ Serywn products when the designs look so cheap?

I kind of understand their reason to lodge a open report to the Admin about Meconfuse’s behaviour as he is constantly disrupting the flow of the thread with spam. He rarely adds to the conversation, is here to provoke people, and can’t even spell properly in most of his posts. What he posts isn’t anything groundbreaking or new info anyways. Everything that he has said are just generic defenses from Mcocean whiteknighters. What is Meconfuse trying to prove by posting the convo between GG and the Admin? Is he trying to say that Mcocean haterz are suppressing his freedom of speech? That’s a very weak link, bro. Unless you are some hebat debater and can give critical, thoughtful points defending Mcocean, only then your point is valid. But seeing your post history, you are only here to provoke people and then play victim. GG have the right to complain about you.

As for me, I don’t really care if Meconfuse is here or not. Just move along. Let’s just focus on redirecting the thread back to the discussion on hand and keep everything in perspective. I’m also tired of rehashing the same points to the new Mco defenders. It’s always the same arguments, and my answers are all the same as well. Go read back the entire thread please. Unless they bring up a new interpretation or explanation to their business system, there’s really no need to entertain all of the repeated questions.

This post has been edited by Devilwearsprada22: Jul 12 2019, 12:11 PM

This thread is not Mcocean’s hallroom, where you can apply all your dramatic manipulation/provoking tactics and avoiding-a-straight-answer tai-chi skills and get away with it. I’m gonna keep steering the conversation back into perspective.

So post it then. Or waiting for your KP or PP to give you word file draft on whatsapp for you to post? I really have zero patience for people who tai-chi2 like this.

Wooooooow

I always had this nagging feeling that the uplines were pocketing profit from all the MNU events/workshops/seminars etc but I was told that the KPs don’t receive anything. Turns out that it’s the much higher ups that’s exploiting the KPs instead! Talk about a plot twist.

Just found out that some of the ex-MCO members who commented on Pseudoscience Watch’s Facebook exposé of Mcocean (they broke the story about the midnight raid) a few months ago were sent warnings from Mcocean threatening them to delete their comments.

Seems like their damage control has been going full force, but alas it didn’t help fix their steadily declining reputation at all.

KP Harris quit Mcocean? But his brother still seems to be in it...

Speaking of MIDEA group, the other day I was waze-ing a route to Sunway Velocity and I passed by the Metro Pudu area where the Mcocean office is situated. I saw a huge MIDEA building nearby (the real MIDEA, not Mcocean’s) and now I’m wondering if Mcocean deliberately chose that name to confuse people into believing they’re a legit company 🤔🤔🤔

Yes, agreed. Life is better off without McOcean. I’m glad for a few of the friends I met in the business (also ex-members), we still hang out together 2-3 years later and laugh/shake our heads about our bad experiences in McOcean. Some of them are still paying off their loans, but generally they’re in a better place now (financially, emotionally, physically) than they ever were in the biz.

Also, I have repeated this so many times, but I met a lot of really talented, hardworking and skillful individuals in McO, who unfortunately got brainwashed to believe that their skills should be wasted on this scam company. Athletes, professionals (doctors, lawyers, etc), chefs, I think there was even a singer at one point? — why the heck won’t you pursue your hobbies and passions instead? Why stay as some seedy salesman going around subtly begging people to join you? Don’t be afraid to leave Mcocean, it will be alright. It will be painful at the beginning especially with all the loans and broken ‘friendships’ with the members, but what you gain back (stable income, your social life back, family time, physical and emotional health, etc) is worth it all. You guys are a hardworking bunch, you can make it out there, even without (ESPECIALLY without) Mcocean as your crutch.

This post has been edited by Devilwearsprada22: Sep 28 2019, 07:38 AM

Ahahahahaha you were involved in that epic Mcocean spam thread last year? 🤣 Dumbest decision Mcocean has ever done on Low Yat, and trust me, they’ve done a lot of stupid stuff here. Tell me more, how it was to be on ‘that’ side when it happened because I still can’t brain it 🤣

So the members were so threatened by this forum but didn’t want to look like they’re having a pissy fit, so they decided to make an entire thread of passive aggressive ‘positive’ reviews, even coordinating among themselves to post at the same time. They really thought they did something smart, only to have the thread deleted within hours because it was considered spam 🤣🤣🤣 That night was peak entertainment.

I've finally logged in after remembering my password! I actually forgot all about McOcean and this forum the past year. So much stuff happened in the world, there's really no time to think about this stupid scam company when we are literally trying to stop a pandemic. I think the last time I was here was in 2019?

By the way -- I came back here to laugh about the new McOcean office paint/mural job I saw recently! HAHHAHAHAHA. I accidently clicked on the McOcean facebook page through an old upline's page (I never unfollowed any of them, too unbothered to do that besides they're the ones unfollowing me lol), and to my horror, I saw posts of them painting the office. AT FIRST I thought they were just going to touch up some water stains and graffiti/dirt with solid paint, like a maintenance paint job -- BUT NO, THEY WERE GOING ALL OUT PAINTING STARS AND TREES AND CAPTIONS AND SHIT LMAOOOOOO. There was also a whole-ass ship sculpture sticking out of the walls hahahahahahaha Y'ALL THIS IS SO FUNNY AND HORRIFYING AT THE SAME TIME!

Okay WHO told them that painting the office with those amateur murals was a good idea????? They don't even have money to do proper ID renovation work and have to rely on the members to paint the walls??? I'm getting so much second-hand embarrassment from them oh LAWD. Whatever shred of dignity or semblance to a corporate, serious business has gone down the drain because of this paint job. I mean they've never been classy (I used to be so embarrassed bringing professional and high-ranking friends to the office back when I was doing a short 5-month stint there), but now.... they're not hiding anymore that they're a clown company hahahaha.

It's not even an MLM company office anymore, it's like a cheap-rate, tacky children's arcade. Good luck with bringing in people into the business with those environment. Good god... this company gets even more pathetic every time I remember they exist and decided to catch up on their shenanigans. It's honestly a lost cause by now.

At this point those members sticking around are just there out of spite (and pride to admit they're wrong), or they're genuinely brainwashed to believe that if they keep suffering in this scam business they will get a breakthrough eventually (NEWSFLASH: THEY'RE JUST DONKEYS CHASING AFTER A CARROT ON A STICK AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THEY CAN GAIN IN THIS BUSINESS MODEL ANYMORE BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE IT YET). Most of them are already working a salary job full-time and McOcean has stepped down to become their 'side-hustle'. I can name so many ex-downlines and uplines who have quietly gone back to work and then unfollowed/blocked all the people who knew them in the business because they're scared of being humiliated lol.

Final words before I leave again for the next 2-3 years:

That office paint job is wack and everyone involved in that project should all be ashamed of themselves HAHA. Honestly some people just don't have any taste or class, no wonder they're still in McOcean -- birds of a feather flock together. At least other MLMs like Norwex or Young Living portray a sleek, sophisticated and expensive front. But obviously McOcean can't live up to the standards of even a decent MLM. Looking forward to watch them sink even further.

Ta-ta!