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post Feb 28 2025, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Feb 13 2025, 02:36 PM)
Bruh, the stuff they sell is cheap shit with little or no mineral and vitamin.
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For example, this product is basically oat like product, but they claimed to be high end premium healthy shit on the market.

Any sane person would compared the ingredients to the market available products. I take Quaker oat as example.

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If you compared the ingredients, you would find it is so much similar, but price difference is super huge gap.
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How can this be healthy when the sugar contains is 28g / 100g. confused.gif the Quaker Oat comparison is so much more healthier than this.
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post Mar 4 2025, 05:43 PM

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Long time 'diver' of this forum.
I'm really grateful with the existence of this forum, which prevented me from taking the loan and joining this syndicate.
I remember I bumped into this forum just 1 day prior to the HOW event in 2019.
Now that my career and income are getting better than before, can't even imagine what will happen if I decided to keep on living in denial during that moment. Phew.
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 7 2025, 11:10 AM)
So true. Betrayal, dishonesty and lying is the ONLY way Pyramid Scheme companies disguised as MLM, like Mc Ocean make money.

They will befriend you, promised to support you to the ends of the earth. When you let your guard down, they will CON-vince you to give RM 2K to them to "try" their garbage products. Then they will upsell you with a "Shortcut to Success Package", which cost you a whooping RM 35K!!! They will persuade you to borrow money from bank, saying things like "Paying RM 1K per month for 5 years is nothing if you are making 5 figure income every month". 

When you bring the RM35K you borrowed to Mc Ocean counter, they will secretly include the outdated RM 5000 water filter into the product package you will buy at the counter.

When you received the products, your Mc Ocean upline will ask you to open the product packaging to check the product quality... WITH THIS ACT, ALL THOSE PRODUCTS THAT YOU OPENED CAN NO LONGER BE REFUNDED UNDER THE 6 MONTHS REFUND POLICY. YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY LOST YOUR RM 35K.

Don't believe anything Mc Ocean members said to you, dear readers. They will play with your emotions, your desperation and your dreams to manipulate you into giving them money.
There is NO FINANCIAL FREEDOM, TIME FREEDOM AND EXTRA/ PASSIVE INCOME in Mc Ocean. Don't be Mc Ocean's Income!
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You sound so angry. Did you lose 35k
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post Mar 23 2025, 09:47 PM

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It's been while since read the thread. Latest news in Mc Ocean is that the founders went to France to receive an award for 1 of their Serywn product.

But when I hear the name of the award I was like, WTF is that???
For me, who is very particular with my beauty products, I also never heard of this award before my whole life. I guess that's the reason why its so easily won by Mc Ocean because other renowned brands just couldn't be bothered to compete to get this award. hmm.gif

Mc Ocean likes to buy or get unknown awards far far away from Asia that you never heard of, one of them is called Oth*rways, which essentially is a PAY TO WIN award (you pay like EUR 5K and they do an award ceremony for you and give you trophies). Lets not forget other (dis)honorable mentions, like their paid advertisement on Nasdaq, New York & their FAKE DIPLOMA OF NUTRITION FROM CAMD*N UNIVERSITY.

All these are meant for the goal to lie to the public that Mc Ocean is reputable. Too bad the Award Givers never actually research the background of the companies that participated. So not surprising some Pyramid Scheme in disguised company will take advantage of that to boost their publicity.

My dear Mc Ocean founder, Mr & Mrs Ch*a, I am so surprised you only can afford to bring 5 people to you to France. Having some financial trouble? brows.gif

And as expected the 5 members that the couple brought along to France are supposed to carry all the props around and take videos thanking Mc Ocean for bringing them along. These members must be so grateful to the Mc Ocean founders because they could only afford to go to overseas trip sponsored by Mc Ocean. Other days, they are back to their empty bank accounts, exhausted, unhealthy and lonely lives rejected by their blood families and friends.

Looking at them, I honestly felt so grateful that I accepted I had been scarmmed by Mc Ocean and walked away many years ago. Every moment of their lives they have to live dishonestly, lying to everyone around them and continue to scarm innocent people for Mc Ocean.

Now, I have cleared all my debts, enjoying a great job, have savings, good health, amended my relationship with friends and families, and the freedom to go on any place in the world for vacation. I know I will NEVER have this life if I had continued to stay in Mc Ocean.

To any Mc Ocean members that read this post, please listen to this advice:

In Mc Ocean, ONLY the Top Members will ALWAYS get to enjoy the luxurious life of going on vacations, the new members will continue to be the Feeder paying for the Top Member's expenses. It is YOUR RM 35,000.00 that is being used to fund the founder and their b*tches to France and to their annual trip!

Mc Ocean will continue to feed you with all these FAKE DREAMS of 5 figure income, driving BMW/ Mercedes and going on overseas trip, this is so that you will believe their lies and continue to give them your hard earned money. Don't believe their words, observe their actions & motives you will see that these are all dramas & lies to make money out of you.


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post Mar 24 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Mar 23 2025, 09:47 PM)
It's been while since read the thread. Latest news in Mc Ocean is that the founders went to France to receive an award for 1 of their Serywn product.

But when I hear the name of the award I was like, WTF is that???
For me, who is very particular with my beauty products, I also never heard of this award before my whole life. I guess that's the reason why its so easily won by Mc Ocean because other renowned brands just couldn't be bothered to compete to get this award.  hmm.gif 

Mc Ocean likes to buy or get unknown awards far far away from Asia that you never heard of, one of them is called Oth*rways, which essentially is a PAY TO WIN award (you pay like EUR 5K and they do an award ceremony for you and give you trophies).  Lets not forget other (dis)honorable mentions, like their paid advertisement on Nasdaq, New York & their FAKE DIPLOMA OF NUTRITION FROM CAMD*N UNIVERSITY.

All these are meant for the goal to lie to the public that Mc Ocean is reputable. Too bad the Award Givers never actually research the background of the companies that participated. So not surprising some Pyramid Scheme in disguised company will take advantage of that to boost their publicity.

My dear Mc Ocean founder, Mr & Mrs Ch*a, I am so surprised you only can afford to bring 5 people to you to France. Having some financial trouble?  brows.gif

And as expected the 5 members that the couple brought along to France are supposed to carry all the props around and take videos thanking Mc Ocean for bringing them along. These members must be so grateful to the Mc Ocean founders because they could only afford to go to overseas trip sponsored by Mc Ocean. Other days, they are back to their empty bank accounts, exhausted, unhealthy and lonely lives rejected by their blood families and friends. 

Looking at them, I honestly felt so grateful that I accepted I had been scarmmed by Mc Ocean and walked away many years ago. Every moment of their lives they have to live dishonestly, lying to everyone around them and continue to scarm innocent people for Mc Ocean.

Now, I have cleared all my debts, enjoying a great job, have savings, good health, amended my relationship with friends and families, and the freedom to go on any place in the world for vacation. I know I will NEVER have this life if I had continued to stay in Mc Ocean.

To any Mc Ocean members that read this post, please listen to this advice:

In Mc Ocean, ONLY the Top Members will ALWAYS get to enjoy the luxurious life of going on vacations, the new members will continue to be the Feeder paying for the Top Member's expenses. It is YOUR RM 35,000.00 that is being used to fund the founder and their b*tches to France and to their annual trip!

Mc Ocean will continue to feed you with all these FAKE DREAMS of 5 figure income, driving BMW/ Mercedes and going on overseas trip, this is so that you will believe their lies and continue to give them your hard earned money. Don't believe their words, observe their actions & motives you will see that these are all dramas & lies to make money out of you. 

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good advice, but they'll probably fall on deaf ears.
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post Mar 24 2025, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Mar 23 2025, 09:47 PM)
It's been while since read the thread. Latest news in Mc Ocean is that the founders went to France to receive an award for 1 of their Serywn product.

But when I hear the name of the award I was like, WTF is that???
For me, who is very particular with my beauty products, I also never heard of this award before my whole life. I guess that's the reason why its so easily won by Mc Ocean because other renowned brands just couldn't be bothered to compete to get this award.  hmm.gif 

Mc Ocean likes to buy or get unknown awards far far away from Asia that you never heard of, one of them is called Oth*rways, which essentially is a PAY TO WIN award (you pay like EUR 5K and they do an award ceremony for you and give you trophies).  Lets not forget other (dis)honorable mentions, like their paid advertisement on Nasdaq, New York & their FAKE DIPLOMA OF NUTRITION FROM CAMD*N UNIVERSITY.

All these are meant for the goal to lie to the public that Mc Ocean is reputable. Too bad the Award Givers never actually research the background of the companies that participated. So not surprising some Pyramid Scheme in disguised company will take advantage of that to boost their publicity.

My dear Mc Ocean founder, Mr & Mrs Ch*a, I am so surprised you only can afford to bring 5 people to you to France. Having some financial trouble?  brows.gif

And as expected the 5 members that the couple brought along to France are supposed to carry all the props around and take videos thanking Mc Ocean for bringing them along. These members must be so grateful to the Mc Ocean founders because they could only afford to go to overseas trip sponsored by Mc Ocean. Other days, they are back to their empty bank accounts, exhausted, unhealthy and lonely lives rejected by their blood families and friends. 

Looking at them, I honestly felt so grateful that I accepted I had been scarmmed by Mc Ocean and walked away many years ago. Every moment of their lives they have to live dishonestly, lying to everyone around them and continue to scarm innocent people for Mc Ocean.

Now, I have cleared all my debts, enjoying a great job, have savings, good health, amended my relationship with friends and families, and the freedom to go on any place in the world for vacation. I know I will NEVER have this life if I had continued to stay in Mc Ocean.

To any Mc Ocean members that read this post, please listen to this advice:

In Mc Ocean, ONLY the Top Members will ALWAYS get to enjoy the luxurious life of going on vacations, the new members will continue to be the Feeder paying for the Top Member's expenses. It is YOUR RM 35,000.00 that is being used to fund the founder and their b*tches to France and to their annual trip!

Mc Ocean will continue to feed you with all these FAKE DREAMS of 5 figure income, driving BMW/ Mercedes and going on overseas trip, this is so that you will believe their lies and continue to give them your hard earned money. Don't believe their words, observe their actions & motives you will see that these are all dramas & lies to make money out of you. 

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The funny part was all the other mc ocean members reposted the IG stories like they also went there.

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post Mar 24 2025, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Mar 24 2025, 11:45 AM)
The funny part was all the other mc ocean members reposted the IG stories like they also went there.
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its a good pretend (free to pretend)... and they want to look successful... and they don't want to be seen as a loser for not "winning" the trip.

typical motivation tactic employed by fmcg firms... and nowadays many industries do this too to their sales team.
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post Mar 24 2025, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Mar 24 2025, 11:45 AM)
The funny part was all the other mc ocean members reposted the IG stories like they also went there.
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It's not surprising if the members are doing this. Mc Ocean likes to use FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) tactics to control their members.

"This could be you. You can also one day go on vacation and drive BMW like me one day!"
"Its Law of Attraction, the more you believe the more it will happen!"
"We will see you at the top!"
"We will support you until you achieve Knight Premier and join us."

Etc.

But in the end, these members either got themselves drown deeper in debts or a lucky few (Statistically, the failure rate in Product-based pyramid schemes or recruitment driven MLMs, like Mc Ocean, is 99.6%) who managed to reach Knight Premier (KP) or Prince Premier (PP) rank, find themselves just earning peanuts but they had to continue the Mc Ocean Lie, just like their uplines, so that their downlines will continue to recruit new members. That is why many KP and PP rank members ended up doing Mc Ocean as just a part time thing or just give it up entirely and went back to employment.

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Everything in Mc Ocean is but a vicious cycle chasing after a fake dream that was fed from the top to the bottom of the pyramid.

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post Mar 25 2025, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Mar 24 2025, 02:09 PM)
It's not surprising if the members are doing this. Mc Ocean likes to use FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) tactics to control their members.

"This could be you. You can also one day go on vacation and drive BMW like me one day!"
"Its Law of Attraction, the more you believe the more it will happen!"
"We will see you at the top!"
"We will support you until you achieve Knight Premier and join us."

Etc.

But in the end, these members either got themselves drown deeper in debts or a lucky few (Statistically, the failure rate in Product-based pyramid schemes or recruitment driven MLMs, like Mc Ocean, is 99.6%) who managed to reach Knight Premier (KP) or Prince Premier (PP) rank, find themselves just earning peanuts but they had to continue the Mc Ocean Lie, just like their uplines, so that their downlines will continue to recruit new members. That is why many KP and PP rank members ended up doing Mc Ocean as just a part time thing or just give it up entirely and went back to employment.

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Everything in Mc Ocean is but a vicious cycle chasing after a fake dream that was fed from the top to the bottom of the pyramid.
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LMFAO even original pyramid scheme and gambling have a higher rate.

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post Mar 25 2025, 12:18 AM

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Wah this thing still alive? I thought dead long time ago d...
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post Mar 25 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Mar 25 2025, 12:13 AM)
LMFAO even original pyramid scheme and gambling have a higher rate.
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Yes indeed.
From the research the best choice is still employment, 100% profit & most importantly, you are contributing to the society like a good citizen should have.

Speaking from experience, DISHONESTY and LYING everyday is the real life in Mc Ocean. From the broad plastic smile you put on your face to bringing new victims to the Mc Ocean Office, to using your victim's RM 35,000.00 to exchange for a truck load Mc Ocean garbage, you have to lie & cheat every step of the way.

Those leftover PP and KPs in Mc Ocean, they are really the lowest garbage in the society. They may act successful in Mc Ocean, but in reality they are all alone once the walk out of the office because they had betrayed and cheated numerous people, even their best friends or parents.

I know a certain PP who are still active in Mc Ocean, who got her position and income through backstabbing her boyfriend, best friend from high school, uni mate and many of her downlines.
Now they had already left Mc Ocean with lives way better life than hers.

Looking at the PP now, always conscious about every cent spent because of tight budget, obese & unhealthy, have to work like a slave for Mc Ocean founders, lying and cheating people every moment of her life, and have to leech on her boyfriend (which is her own downline) to mask her loneliness. I only feel pity for her when karma finally catch up, which it always will rclxms.gif .




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Saw alot of new post from Mc Ocean doing charity, holding open houses etc, trying to portray themselves like a good & charitable company.

Ever since victims of Mc Ocean started exposing them online and their sales started to plummet because people are smart enough to reject their RM 35,000 Fake "Shortcut to become a millionaire" Scarm. Mc Ocean tried to use charity and big donations to schools and political parties to salvage their reputation. Years ago, when Mc Ocean couldn't be bothered to do any charity and just focus of enriching themselves.

Desperate sia. rclxs0.gif

PS: Guess what, those money Mc Ocean used to "help" people and donate out, are the victim's money. NOTHING Mc Ocean does can hide 1 important fact: Mc Ocean is a Pyramid Scheme in disguised as a MLM, that focuses on recruiting new victims with empty promises and lies. Using dirty money to earn more dirty money, that is all there is to it. puke.gif

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post Apr 21 2025, 10:46 AM

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with 1.2m view on this topic, you would expect most people to already know about this scam...
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Apr 21 2025, 10:46 AM)
with 1.2m view on this topic, you would expect most people to already know about this scam...
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nope, they aimed those young ppl working in Singapore now
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QUOTE(takaryusan @ May 27 2025, 10:01 AM)
nope, they aimed those young ppl working in Singapore now
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Yeah, they prey on fresh young people that only recently join the workforce, including people work in Singapore.

Most of these young people have one thing in common, which is ambitious, wanna make money, for whatever the reason.

It is not wrong to wanna make money, as long as it is an honest living.

But these scammers don't care about others, they just think about themselves, and will not hesitate to destroy others' life and future.
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i thought they would have slowed down by now seeing that previously someone share a group picture of them and the size has dwindled down a lot.
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QUOTE(coyouth @ May 28 2025, 12:12 PM)
i thought they would have slowed down by now seeing that previously someone share a group picture of them and the size has dwindled down a lot.
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Some of them yes.

But few of them now put "mc ocean" on their IG and FB profile bio, proudly showing that they are scammers.
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QUOTE(diggle123 @ May 29 2025, 12:35 PM)
Some of them yes.

But few of them now put "mc ocean" on their IG and FB profile bio, proudly showing that they are scammers.
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what's the reason for them showing off their involvement at this point of time? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(coyouth @ May 30 2025, 09:49 AM)
what's the reason for them showing off their involvement at this point of time?  hmm.gif
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No idea.

I guess by now, most people have known who they are, so no harm to reveal their identity anymore.

I mean, we used to criticize them for hiding and being secretive, so by revealing their identity, as a form of reverse psychology.

Showing to their victim that they are not scare or being secretive, assert proud and confidence against criticism, might increase the chance to secure victim's money.
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QUOTE(diggle123 @ May 30 2025, 12:48 PM)
No idea.

I guess by now, most people have known who they are, so no harm to reveal their identity anymore.

I mean, we used to criticize them for hiding and being secretive, so by revealing their identity, as a form of reverse psychology.

Showing to their victim that they are not scare or being secretive, assert proud and confidence against criticism, might increase the chance to secure victim's money.
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ah yes, reverse psychology. you have a point.

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