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supermegathrone
post Jan 15 2025, 02:48 PM

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Close family and friends caring about your dreams = Normal

So-callled long lost friends and strangers suddenly caring about your dreams out of the blue = Run away
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post Jan 16 2025, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Jan 14 2025, 04:06 PM)
"I don’t think this business is a scam"
Must be joking, right?
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Long time lurker here. The fellow is most likely well aware that it's a scam.

More of a case of trying to safe face and some self denial by justifying that he did received goods for the money paid thus it is not a scam.

Since he never said anything about needing to take a loan & have a well paying job. Very likely he is highly educated & imho for some people. The more one is highly educated, the more one will deny that they got.conned as they cannot accept the fact that they fell victim to a scammer who they consider as beneath them hence the face saving/self denial.

Made worse by the fact that mcocean is pretty much well known by now & can easily Google it especially since there was a few weeks interval before paying up 30k.

Lucky for everyone is that everyone knows mcocean is a scam & that there are plenty of confessions outright warning people its a scam.

If this was the early years of.mcocean when a lot of.people believed in their lies. This confession wouldn't be of.much help as mcocean can say see, even this fellow says we are legitimate. It's just that he doesn't have the mindset & ruthlessness to succeed.


supermegathrone
post Jan 16 2025, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(arkasi @ Jan 16 2025, 09:35 AM)
Long time lurker here. The fellow is most likely well aware that it's  a scam.

More of a case of trying to safe face and some self denial by justifying that he did received goods for the money paid thus it is not a scam.

Since he never said anything about needing to take a loan & have a well paying job. Very likely he is highly educated & imho for some people. The more one is highly educated, the more one will deny that they got.conned as they cannot accept the fact that they fell victim to a scammer  who they consider as beneath them hence the face saving/self denial.

Made worse by the fact that mcocean is pretty much well known by now & can easily Google it especially since there was a few weeks interval before paying up 30k.

Lucky for everyone is that everyone knows mcocean is a scam & that there are plenty of confessions outright warning people its a scam.

If this was the early years of.mcocean when a lot of.people believed in their lies. This confession wouldn't be of.much help as mcocean can say see, even this fellow says we are legitimate. It's just that he doesn't have the mindset & ruthlessness to succeed.
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Basically, that is like a person paying RM10 for cup of teh tarik at a mamak shop because the normal teh tarik sounded so special that nobody knows about it.

The difficulty of getting people to put in RM35k into this thing is the difficulty of getting people to pay RM10 for a cup of teh tarik.

In the google reviews that are since been flooded with positive comments from the members (and ex-members too, I assume), it is like convincing the buyers to mass spam reviews on why expensive teh tarik is so good.

Honestly speaking, the fact that you have to attend events, go to business seminars etc, only just to find out
1) why this teh tarik is worth RM10
2) why you should convince your friends and family to buy RM10 teh tarik, and then get them to sell it to others at the same price

is totally nuts.


This post has been edited by supermegathrone: Jan 16 2025, 01:06 PM
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post Jan 17 2025, 05:32 PM

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I must always be grateful for this forum that exposed these scammers to the society. Without it, I would have been a victim myself too. Thank god I was not scammed a single sen thanks for this forum. One day karma will punish these scammers to eternity of hell.
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post Jan 27 2025, 11:48 AM

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Chinese New Year is near, Mc Ocean members will take advantage of this season to look for new victims to make money out of.

They will try to hard sell you tickets to their CNY Event, luring you with exclusive invitation to meet "successful 5 figure income entrepreneurs". They will make you believe they have you in mind, but the truth is because they know you can afford to take up another RM 35K of bank loan to become the next victim of Mc Ocean.

Be careful of friends/ family members/ coworker/ Online Strangers, who tries to jio you out ALONE, especially during this week. This scarmmers are so brainwashed and desperate, they can only see people around them as just another RM 6K sales to be closed.
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post Jan 30 2025, 08:48 PM

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why does this trash still exist..i thought it feel apart long time ago
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post Jan 30 2025, 09:01 PM

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The whole operation is still registered under a legit company.
The whole operational staffs from top mgmt down to the uplines segments need to continue to make income to sustained their lifestyles expenses and there are still people believing in them ...so it still operates and alive
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post Jan 31 2025, 01:47 PM

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This shit will continue to exist for as long as there is new people in the workforce because they mostly prey on people from this category.

It is like all the MLM out there, long existing and sucking money.

This post has been edited by diggle123: Jan 31 2025, 01:48 PM
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post Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM

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Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025.

CNY 2024:

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CNY 2025:

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What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL."

Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET? rclxms.gif

Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing.
Pictures speak a thousand words.

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post Feb 10 2025, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM)
Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025.

CNY 2024:

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CNY 2025:

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What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL."

Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET?  rclxms.gif   

Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing.
Pictures speak a thousand words.
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So called "Apple" of Malaysia (The Trillion dollar company) leh. Why so less people one?

HAHAHAHA.

In case you don't know, there was a member compared this company to Apple. I can still to see her in the picture.
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post Feb 10 2025, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Feb 10 2025, 11:22 AM)
So called "Apple" of Malaysia (The Trillion dollar company) leh. Why so less people one?

HAHAHAHA.

In case you don't know, there was a member compared this company to Apple. I can still to see her in the picture.
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Hahaha, wow!

This really shows the ignorance of the these idiots. A quick search from Google there is NO company in Malaysia that hit MYR 1 Trillion lor.

Luckily, with search engines and AI, scarmmers' lies are easily exposed.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large...ies_in_Malaysia

Check the link my dear brainwashed little girl, MANA MC OCEAN in the List of largest companies in Malaysia???
I know you desperate to scarm $$$ from victims, but don't simply made up facts or believe everything your upline tell u lah... yawn.gif

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post Feb 10 2025, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM)
Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025.

CNY 2024:

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CNY 2025:

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What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL."

Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET?  rclxms.gif   

Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing.
Pictures speak a thousand words.
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I think in 2030 onwards, the CNY celebration will just be left the founder and his wife hahaha...
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post Feb 10 2025, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM)
Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025.

CNY 2024:

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CNY 2025:

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What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL."

Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET?  rclxms.gif   

Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing.
Pictures speak a thousand words.
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this gal loose so much weight?

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BurBurChaCha
post Feb 13 2025, 09:06 AM

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Pffttt... they say they've sold those healthy diet products, but there are still lots of overweight boys and girls trying to sell them. sweat.gif
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post Feb 13 2025, 01:27 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13N9PqTUvA

Found this on YouTube. Turn on the English subtitle if you can't understand Mandarin.

I always said MLM is a cult, especially this particular company. I am not wrong in a way because everything they did is similar to cult.

I hope you can gain and learn something from this video, so that you can avoid any cult or MLM in the future.
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post Feb 13 2025, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(BurBurChaCha @ Feb 13 2025, 09:06 AM)
Pffttt... they say they've sold those healthy diet products, but there are still lots of overweight boys and girls trying to sell them. sweat.gif
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Bruh, the stuff they sell is cheap shit with little or no mineral and vitamin.


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For example, this product is basically oat like product, but they claimed to be high end premium healthy shit on the market.

Any sane person would compared the ingredients to the market available products. I take Quaker oat as example.

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If you compared the ingredients, you would find it is so much similar, but price difference is super huge gap.
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post Feb 14 2025, 08:14 AM

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Wow... I’ve been watching the entire video, and it’s exactly the same as the MCO 3D2N brainwashing event that tricks victims into falling into 35K+ debt for the products. For real, everyone should watch this video so they can learn and avoid any cults or MLMs in the future! bruce.gif
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post Feb 14 2025, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM)
Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025.

CNY 2024:

Attached Image

CNY 2025:

Attached Image


What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL."

Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET?  rclxms.gif   

Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing.
Pictures speak a thousand words.
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good to see the difference between 2024 & 2025. doesn't seem to be the same people too.

This post has been edited by coyouth: Feb 14 2025, 09:51 AM
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post Feb 14 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Feb 13 2025, 01:36 PM)
Bruh, the stuff they sell is cheap shit with little or no mineral and vitamin.
user posted image

For example, this product is basically oat like product, but they claimed to be high end premium healthy shit on the market.

Any sane person would compared the ingredients to the market available products. I take Quaker oat as example.

user posted image

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If you compared the ingredients, you would find it is so much similar, but price difference is super huge gap.
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Mc Ocean products are generally overpriced and with unsupported health benefits.

Take this product Enerbest for example, 400g cost around RM 200!!!
Quaker Instant Oat Meal, 800g you can get it at less than RM 10.00. THAT IS A 4,000% PRICE DIFFERENCE.

Mc Ocean members always brainwash their downlines that MLM is "BEST BUSINESS MODEL", because they cut out all the middleman and get products direct from source. But why the huge difference?

Their products were never meant to be transactional, they are only tools for them to disguise their Pyramid Scheme with a AJL (Akta Jualan Langsung) License. Their main source of income is by recruiting new victims, followed by dumping RM 35K worth of these garbage on them and call this their sales!

This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: Feb 14 2025, 10:05 AM
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post Feb 15 2025, 02:32 PM

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at this point i guess all consumption based mlm wont survive.

forex on the other hand..money buy money based product is the only way to go.

hmmm i wonder where the KING of passive income is now.

One and only founder of lampe berger..owns downline in more than 100 countries.

starter package was 36,000 back then. highest closing rate for such starter package. until today no 1 dares to do back the same thing. every night thousand and thousand new joiner willingly join.

Nornan Pang and Howard Chew combined also will be pale in comparison to founder of Lampe berger.




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