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Kokky
post Jan 11 2023, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(Gene_89 @ Jan 8 2023, 06:37 PM)
Fuh long time didn't visit this forum. So interesting to read one by one.

And finally I had cleared off the RM 37k+ loan (include interest) debt. What a relief. No thanks to you Mc Ocean! So my 'beloved' KPs, have you settle your loans?

For some people it is easy to clear this amount. But certain type people it is not easy as you said.

Fire Your Boss? Don't b*llsh*t. My boss and my company had treated me some good meals. Workshops & accommodations were fully sponsored by my company. Back then in Mc Ocean, each of us had to forked out our own money to attend their so call special workshop and b*lls*t seminars!!! 

Those who are still inside please clear your mind. It is really not worth for your time and energy.
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KP: What? You can't get even one fella to our events? Then you must join this (insert awesome-sounding name) camp! I con-9-lan-firm you will get new SP's after this!

Victim: Yeah? Oh nice! I want to go!!!!

KP: Right. Pay RM300 first. Don't worry, this "investment" will pay dividends in the future!

When victim reached whatever state the camp was being organized, little did they know nothing was arranged for them. The had to fork out money just to get to the campsite.

During the camp....

Victim: Yes! Yes! Yes! I am here to learn how to scam.... How to share my business to more people!!!!!

"Hebat" Speaker 1: Do you want to become a corporate slave forever?

"Hebat" Speaker 2: Don't you want your parents to have better lives?

"Hebat" Speaker 3: What happened to your dreams? Are you zombies?

Victim cried and resolved to "change their lives".

Victim: So, how do improve my business?
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:13 AM

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Just got dumped by my bf because all I requested was to spend one day a week to paktor then eventually all I requested was one meal a week despite us both living in Klang Valley, end up he said his business partners were more important and he couldn't let them sink so he rather end our relationship and commit all the way to MCO*.
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post Jan 11 2023, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(asdfghjkl12345 @ Jan 11 2023, 08:13 AM)
Just got dumped by my bf because all I requested was to spend one day a week to paktor then eventually all I requested was one meal a week despite us both living in Klang Valley, end up he said his business partners were more important and he couldn't let them sink so he rather end our relationship and commit all the way to MCO*.
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I understand how you felt, it is not surprising Mc Ocean brainwashes their member's to devote all of their time, money and life to it alone.

Throughout my time as a Mc Ocean zombie, I saw couples divorced, family bankrupted, broke ups, members lost their retirement funds, homes & life savings because of this despicable MLM. Some unlucky ones, even lost their lives (Disclaimer: not by consuming their garbage products, but exhausted from working too hard and met accidents).

If he made his choice not to join this cult, just wish him good luck paying off his RM 35K bank loan and walk away from him.
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post Jan 11 2023, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Jan 11 2023, 06:56 AM)
KP: What? You can't get even one fella to our events? Then you must join this (insert awesome-sounding name) camp! I con-9-lan-firm you will get new SP's after this!

Victim: Yeah? Oh nice! I want to go!!!!

KP: Right. Pay RM300 first. Don't worry, this "investment" will pay dividends in the future!

When victim reached whatever state the camp was being organized, little did they know nothing was arranged for them. The had to fork out money just to get to the campsite.

During the camp....

Victim: Yes! Yes! Yes! I am here to learn how to scam.... How to share my business to more people!!!!!

"Hebat" Speaker 1: Do you want to become a corporate slave forever?

"Hebat" Speaker 2: Don't you want your parents to have better lives?

"Hebat" Speaker 3: What happened to your dreams? Are you zombies?

Victim cried and resolved to "change their lives".

Victim: So, how do improve my business?
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OMFG, this is so true!

Mc Ocean and their members: "We are a PRODUCT FOCUS BUSINESS, NOT RECRUITMENT."
But in their office trainings and camps, this is what they do with their "products":

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Mc Ocean and their members: "Yes, but we have product knowledge trainings too."

True, but this is what they "politely ask" members to do:

1) Open the most expensive products in their RM 35K stock they bought to consume (like the makeup set, En*rxel etc).
2) Must install the RM 5K E-ioniser water filter in their homes, take a selfie to prove it then only members are allowed to join the camps.

The packet the members consume below, 1 box cost RM 8XX.

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Mc Ocean rational to members: "You know why the founder Datin is so pretty? Because she consume this En*rxel everyday. This product made of stem cells can make you rejuvenate and reverse aging."

Real reason is, by doing the above 1 and 2, members now have lesser products to return back to Mc Ocean if they withdraw. So the upline KPs and PPs get to keep more money to themselves. icon_idea.gif

Like what our Mc Ocean dog here keep "clarifying" wut, ONLY PRODUCT WITH PACKAGING WILL BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND, right mcofficial?

Disclaimer: These photos were voluntarily uploaded by Mc Ocean members in their FAKE 5 Star Google Reviews. Since no photoshop in any way, censorship is not required.

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post Jan 11 2023, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 11 2023, 10:50 AM)
OMFG, this is so true!

Mc Ocean and their members: "We are a PRODUCT FOCUS BUSINESS, NOT RECRUITMENT."
But in their office trainings and camps, this is what they do with their "products":

Attached Image
Attached Image

Mc Ocean and their members: "Yes, but we have product knowledge trainings too."

True, but this is what they "politely ask" members to do:

1) Open the most expensive products in their RM 35K stock they bought to consume (like the makeup set, En*rxel etc).
2) Must install the RM 5K E-ioniser water filter in their homes, take a selfie to prove it then only members are allowed to join the camps.

The packet the members consume below, 1 box cost RM 8XX.

Attached Image

Mc Ocean rational to members: "You know why the founder Datin is so pretty? Because she consume this En*rxel everyday. This product made of stem cells can make you rejuvenate and reverse aging."

Real reason is, by doing the above 1 and 2, members now have lesser products to return back to Mc Ocean if they withdraw. So the upline KPs and PPs get to keep more money to themselves.  icon_idea.gif

Like what our Mc Ocean dog here keep "clarifying" wut, ONLY PRODUCT WITH PACKAGING WILL BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND, right mcofficial?

Disclaimer: These photos were voluntarily uploaded by Mc Ocean members in their FAKE 5 Star Google Reviews. Since no photoshop in any way, censorship is not required.
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Wow. Look at the face of those people, really kesian.

How did you wake up and walk away as a McOcean Zombie? At least you get garbage product...those kena by TriumphFx don't even get a chocolate bar to eat.
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post Jan 14 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 11 2023, 09:53 AM)
I understand how you felt, it is not surprising Mc Ocean brainwashes their member's to devote all of their time, money and life to it alone.

Throughout my time as a Mc Ocean zombie, I saw couples divorced, family bankrupted, broke ups, members lost their retirement funds, homes & life savings because of this despicable MLM. Some unlucky ones, even lost their lives (Disclaimer: not by consuming their garbage products, but exhausted from working too hard and met accidents).

If he made his choice not to join this cult, just wish him good luck paying off his RM 35K bank loan and walk away from him.
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Funny thing how I felt so uncomfortable with him joining (and I could see he was brainwashed to the core) yet I didn't leave him; anyhow now I just tell myself I am lucky he left me first and we ended. One end I hope he does achieve his goals for joining, but on the other I also wish he can see the truth one day and stop destroying himself
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post Jan 15 2023, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 11 2023, 10:50 AM)
OMFG, this is so true!

Mc Ocean and their members: "We are a PRODUCT FOCUS BUSINESS, NOT RECRUITMENT."
But in their office trainings and camps, this is what they do with their "products":

Attached Image
Attached Image

Mc Ocean and their members: "Yes, but we have product knowledge trainings too."

True, but this is what they "politely ask" members to do:

1) Open the most expensive products in their RM 35K stock they bought to consume (like the makeup set, En*rxel etc).
2) Must install the RM 5K E-ioniser water filter in their homes, take a selfie to prove it then only members are allowed to join the camps.

The packet the members consume below, 1 box cost RM 8XX.

Attached Image

Mc Ocean rational to members: "You know why the founder Datin is so pretty? Because she consume this En*rxel everyday. This product made of stem cells can make you rejuvenate and reverse aging."

Real reason is, by doing the above 1 and 2, members now have lesser products to return back to Mc Ocean if they withdraw. So the upline KPs and PPs get to keep more money to themselves.  icon_idea.gif

Like what our Mc Ocean dog here keep "clarifying" wut, ONLY PRODUCT WITH PACKAGING WILL BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND, right mcofficial?

Disclaimer: These photos were voluntarily uploaded by Mc Ocean members in their FAKE 5 Star Google Reviews. Since no photoshop in any way, censorship is not required.
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OMG look at these people! Their kelian innocent face. They are just normal people like us. Might have a stable day job and weekend to spend their time with family & friends. I hope not all of them are SPs.

Those people in the pictures. Please wake up. You might think this forum full of negativity. But normally the truth hurts. Think properly again please. Would you rather let your friends to get loan from the bank for some MLM business? You want to start a business? Can, but definitely not Mc Ocean.

Woi Mc Ocean! Stop your despicable ways already. I said before already if you won't stop, there will be never ending story from me to share your sh*t name to my peers and my colleagues.

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post Jan 15 2023, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Gene_89 @ Jan 15 2023, 03:04 PM)
OMG look at these people! Their kelian innocent face. They are just normal people like us. Might have a stable day job and weekend to spend their time with family & friends. I hope not all of them are SPs.

Those people in the pictures. Please wake up. You might think this forum full of negativity. But normally the truth hurts. Think properly again please. Would you rather let your friends to get loan from the bank for some MLM business? You want to start a business? Can, but definitely not Mc Ocean. 

Woi Mc Ocean! Stop your despicable ways already. I said before already if you won't stop, there will be never ending  story from me to share your sh*t name to my peers and my colleagues.
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At the end of the 3 days 2 nights camp, not only are these attendees have lost several boxes of products from their RM 35K stock, they became brainwashed so high Mc Ocean zombies who keeps shouting "Recruit 5 more victims within 30 days"!

The trainers will also have sessions to encourage them to spam 5 star Google Reviews to all Mc Ocean branches and mass report negative reviews. That is the reason why majority are 5 star reviews when you google Mc Ocean, the reviews are ALL happened on the same period of time too if you pay close attention.

Mc Ocean motto is "We Care & We Share"?
More like "We Care ONLY ABOUT OUR OWN $$$ & We Share ALL OUR DEBTS TO OUR DOWNLINES".
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post Jan 18 2023, 10:42 PM

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For those getting their angpows, ensure that 0% of the money inside doesn’t go into McO.

Don’t turn your huat into hi-lat.

Hi-lat: Gone case in Cantonese.
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post Jan 18 2023, 10:43 PM

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Typo:

0% of the money goes into McO*


QUOTE(supermegathrone @ Jan 18 2023, 10:42 PM)
For those getting their angpows, ensure that 0% of the money inside doesn’t go into McO.

Don’t turn your huat into hi-lat.

Hi-lat: Gone case in Cantonese.
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post Jan 18 2023, 10:45 PM

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Yup, I noticed it!

5 star reviews posted in the same period of time. LOL does anyone want to give 5 stars to MCO in Google Reviews out of the blue? Hahahaha I don’t think so.

Only when asked then give. The 5 stars is not sincere lol.

QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 15 2023, 07:19 PM)
At the end of the 3 days 2 nights camp, not only are these attendees have lost several boxes of products from their RM 35K stock, they became brainwashed so high Mc Ocean zombies who keeps shouting "Recruit 5 more victims within 30 days"!

The trainers will also have sessions to encourage them to spam 5 star Google Reviews to all Mc Ocean branches and mass report negative reviews. That is the reason why majority are 5 star reviews when you google Mc Ocean, the reviews are ALL happened on the same period of time too if you pay close attention.

Mc Ocean motto is "We Care & We Share"?
More like "We Care ONLY ABOUT OUR OWN $$$ & We Share ALL OUR DEBTS TO OUR DOWNLINES".
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post Jan 20 2023, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(supermegathrone @ Jan 18 2023, 10:45 PM)
Yup, I noticed it!

5 star reviews posted in the same period of time. LOL does anyone want to give 5 stars to MCO in Google Reviews out of the blue? Hahahaha I don’t think so.

Only when asked then give. The 5 stars is not sincere lol.
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If you at these reviews closely, lots of these reviews are copy paste. If they can't construct even just one sentence genuinely by themselves then it is fishy.

If you look at their profiles, some of these reviews are first-time reviewing. Never have reviewed at Google, but all of sudden, that particular company is the best company in the world. Total bullshit.
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post Jan 21 2023, 09:56 PM

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Happy Chinese New Year 2023 peeps!

Remember to huat huat huat 888 yo! Keep your angpow for yourself and not for some “business partner” opportunity.

May Chao Shen Ye grant you all the huat 🧧🧧
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post Jan 27 2023, 09:36 AM

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Still baffled by how it works.

Technically if a person joins with the RM35K input, and gets 5-6 downliners, then h/she gets to breakeven (RM6k comm/pax) but for principal portion only. Will need another 5 downliners to cover the loan interest portion. What's next? Wait for the downliners to get their next gen downliners while the person goyang kaki and wait for commission to continue flowing up? is that the concept of guaranteed passive income in this chain?
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post Jan 27 2023, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(asdfghjkl12345 @ Jan 27 2023, 09:36 AM)
Still baffled by how it works.

Technically if a person joins with the RM35K input, and gets 5-6 downliners, then h/she gets to breakeven (RM6k comm/pax) but for principal portion only. Will need another 5 downliners to cover the loan interest portion. What's next? Wait for the downliners to get their next gen downliners while the person goyang kaki and wait for commission to continue flowing up? is that the concept of guaranteed passive income in this chain?
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That's how it works theoretically. Just like how Ponzi scheme, keep on looking for new downlines while the garbage products are just a tool as disguise to register as MLM company.

In fact, alot of registered "MLM companies" out there are using this tactic. The company itself is "sustainable" because sucking money all the way from the bottom, the people at the top of the pyramid having fun sucking the money from the bottom as well.

I bet these so called "distributor" never heard of Trickle Down Economics, that's how the society supposed to work, not just sucking money from the bottom. For them, they only care about taking shortcut to get rich, other than that, they don't really care.

The problem with this society is people tend to forget their roles in the society. Yes, in a free society, you can move up to the higher class by seizing opportunity but hard work should be a part of the process. The only shortcut in this world is being born rich. There is no shortcut for ordinary people.

Trust no one when comes to money especially "great investment" and "business opportunity" because people are selfish to share, that's the hard truth. Unless, you are his/her investment/opportunity aka victim.

Last but not least, always remember this, "Too Good To Be True", it might save tons of money.
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post Jan 27 2023, 01:10 PM

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If you do have 35K to spend, spend it on starting a business yourself. You don't have to give it to a shitty company that most people never heard of.

Even if your business failed, at the end of the day, you learned something from the failure and gained experience. In another word, the lesson is well learned.

If you don't have that 35K, do forget about it. Taking a loan is not easy unless the business opportunity is promising. However, do remember that it may be "Too Good to be True".

If you really want to start a business after much consideration, and do not have starting capital, you can always start small.

Being your own boss here means starting a business by yourself, not joining some shitty company as an agent, buying garbage products, and recruiting downline. That's not becoming your own boss but becoming parasite of society, sucking money from your friends and family.
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post Jan 27 2023, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Jan 27 2023, 01:10 PM)
If you do have 35K to spend, spend it on starting a business yourself. You don't have to give it to a shitty company that most people never heard of.

Even if your business failed, at the end of the day, you learned something from the failure and gained experience. In another word, the lesson is well learned.

If you don't have that 35K, do forget about it. Taking a loan is not easy unless the business opportunity is promising. However, do remember that it may be "Too Good to be True".

If you really want to start a business after much consideration, and do not have starting capital, you can always start small.

Being your own boss here means starting a business by yourself, not joining some shitty company as an agent, buying garbage products, and recruiting downline. That's not becoming your own boss but becoming parasite of society, sucking money from your friends and family.
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Oh, I would never put 35k in this shady organization. Even if I didn't want to setup a business or got nothing better to do with my 35k, would rather dump it into EPF, at least I get steady returns without doing anything. Besides, my conscience just won't allow me to reap off other poor people by deceiving them to pour in their 35k, be it personal savings or loan.

Just couldn't get my mind round the logic and why so many people (including my ex) believed in the BS fed to them, cox I have been reading up about MCO for a few months and was never convinced especially by the Y33 calculation shared. To me it is outright sucker's deal.

So ended up wondering if I missed out on something.
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post Jan 27 2023, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(asdfghjkl12345 @ Jan 27 2023, 03:41 PM)
Oh, I would never put 35k in this shady organization. Even if I didn't want to setup a business or got nothing better to do with my 35k, would rather dump it into EPF, at least I get steady returns without doing anything. Besides, my conscience just won't allow me to reap off other poor people by deceiving them to pour in their 35k, be it personal savings or loan.

Just couldn't get my mind round the logic and why so many people (including my ex) believed in the BS fed to them, cox I have been reading up about MCO for a few months and was never convinced especially by the Y33 calculation shared. To me it is outright sucker's deal.

So ended up wondering if I missed out on something.
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First - sorry to hear about your story breakup, you definitely can find a better half

Second - The thing is that all these MLM / Ponzi business model, when they are promoting it to the victim -> they will always show how good and how wealthy they are. For those who already know their tactic then we know that they are just trying to lure you in, but for those who do not know anything - I am quite sure they will thought that this is a legitimate business. And who do not what to earn easy money when there are "success stories" and "success people" leading you directly -> nothing can go wrong right?
This is how the victims will kena

On a non-related note - I was being proposed with L*mpB*rger (not sure got typo or not) when I was in Uni by my friend and that was my first MLM experience, I went for their "talk" and saw the exact same thing as what others mention. Just felt lucky that I used my parents to tell my friend off
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post Jan 28 2023, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(riotx @ Jan 27 2023, 04:23 PM)
First - sorry to hear about your story breakup, you definitely can find a better half

Second - The thing is that all these MLM / Ponzi  business model, when they are promoting it to the victim -> they will always show how good and how wealthy they are. For those who already know their tactic then we know that they are just trying to lure you in, but for those who do not know anything - I am quite sure they will thought that this is a legitimate business. And who do not what to earn easy money when there are "success stories" and "success people" leading you directly -> nothing can go wrong right?
This is how the victims will kena

On a non-related note - I was being proposed with L*mpB*rger (not sure got typo or not) when I was in Uni by my friend and that was my first MLM experience, I went for their "talk" and saw the exact same thing as what others mention. Just felt lucky that I used my parents to tell my friend off
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Makes sense. I was also first exposed to such pyramid schemes disgusing as MLM when I was back in uni. Was pretty naive back then, luckily my peers talked sense into me. Over the years I got approached by such networks and somehow I built immunity towards them lol.

I've never been to the stage where they promoted their entire biz plan to me most probably cox I never showed interest during the tea party stage. Still remember one of the higher ranking ladies coming up to me telling me how she was earning 5 figures in an MNC yadayadayada and quit her job for this, she was in her early 30s while me in my late 20s, told her I was comfortable with my life rn and she told me 'maybe you havent reach that age yet to start worrying for your future' and I told her yea mb I am still young and immature biggrin.gif probably pissed her off.

In my mind I was like, seriously what a joker, I have a pretty decent corporate job along with a legit freelance job, with ample time for personal life and wellbeing. Why won't I be happy with my life now? Sorry la I enjoy being a corporate slave, my life my choice lo. She should be worrying about her future when one day not many people will be left in the pool and there goes her commission and lifeline.

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post Jan 28 2023, 06:41 PM

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