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diggle123
post Oct 26 2022, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Oct 25 2022, 01:43 PM)
For those doctors who paid RM 35K to Mc Ocean, they are JUST ANOTHER DESPERATE MLM SALESMAN who wants to offload those garbage to someone. When desperate to cough out RM1K/ month to pay their bank loan, these doctors will be willing to give up their medical profession to sell those garbage to their patients.

Those products won't do any harm to people who consume it, but it won't do any good either. From my experience, they are just overpriced but mediocre products with NO advantage over commercial ones selling in the Pharmacies. But what can you expect? Those garbage were NEVER meant to be sold honestly to consumer at competitive price.

THEIR MAIN GOAL IS A MEANS TO MAKE THE MLM A LEGIT RECRUITMENT SCHEME, WITH RECRUITMENT OF NEW MEMBERS AS THE REAL SOURCE OF INCOME

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Let's say a piece of that garbage cost 5% to 10% of its selling price to make at a large scale.

Take Enerfiber as an example that sells at RM255 (not sure about what's the current price, I refer to the 2017 price list).

So, if 10% of that price is RM25.5, then the profit margin is at least 40% after deducting the administration cost, "distribution commission" and so on, including donations.

Easy money for the owner. Indeed can become a millionaire in just a short time. But not the people below.


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post Oct 26 2022, 10:45 AM

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The way they sell stuff is a mess!
This is what I found in shopee:

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30 sachets = less than RM90!!!!

Do u sense desperation over there?
These people claim they are "businessmen", but when questioned about their methods, they will always avoid answering you directly.
For example, take a look at this:

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A: Why your stuff is so expensive?
"Businessman": Because it's a PREMIUM product taken directly from the supplier. Oh ya, why don't you come out and we can clear your confusion?

Hello! If the stuff is taken from the supplier, that means the items should be CHEAPER! Hello! Can you don't take us as idiots ma?

You know why it's so expensive? It's because the money is used to pay uplines of GODS KNOW HOW MANY LAYERS!


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post Oct 26 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Oct 26 2022, 10:45 AM)
The way they sell stuff is a mess!
This is what I found in shopee:

user posted image

30 sachets = less than RM90!!!!

Do u sense desperation over there?
These people claim they are "businessmen", but when questioned about their methods, they will always avoid answering you directly.
For example, take a look at this:

user posted image

A: Why your stuff is so expensive?
"Businessman": Because it's a PREMIUM product taken directly from the supplier. Oh ya, why don't you come out and we can clear your confusion?

Hello! If the stuff is taken from the supplier, that means the items should be CHEAPER! Hello! Can you don't take us as idiots ma?

You know why it's so expensive? It's because the money is used to pay uplines of GODS KNOW HOW MANY LAYERS!
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You underestimate their confidence when comes to spinning things out of context.
The crazier thing is some of them even believe in what they said.
Geek Goblin 123
post Oct 26 2022, 04:53 PM

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Even more laughable, they dared to even brag about their products don't need any certification because they had won some award in Rome, Italy, back in 2019.

These awards are a Paid-to-Win. Where they paid the organizer to get to attend the ball and they will be given trophies and certs. Companies, with nothing to show for, will do that to fake achievement & increase publicity.

Hmmm, why this sounds familiar? Oh right, remember how they like to also said how "successful" they were, WHEN THEY GET TO ADVERTISE THEIR PRODUCTS ON NASDAQ, USA?

In both instances, they just PAY MONEY to get the recognition. But the funniest thing of all is, after more than 10 years in Malaysia, with all the tee ups and money spent, there is still no long queue outside of their office with people eager to buy ANY of their products. This is what I called as a FAILED PUBLICITY rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Drama, Drama & more Drama. Nothing else but that... If you are here searching for the truth, I strongly advise you to walk away or quit from this kind of dishonest MLM.
supermegathrone
post Oct 26 2022, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Oct 26 2022, 10:45 AM)
The way they sell stuff is a mess!
This is what I found in shopee:

user posted image

30 sachets = less than RM90!!!!

Do u sense desperation over there?
These people claim they are "businessmen", but when questioned about their methods, they will always avoid answering you directly.
For example, take a look at this:

user posted image

A: Why your stuff is so expensive?
"Businessman": Because it's a PREMIUM product taken directly from the supplier. Oh ya, why don't you come out and we can clear your confusion?

Hello! If the stuff is taken from the supplier, that means the items should be CHEAPER! Hello! Can you don't take us as idiots ma?

You know why it's so expensive? It's because the money is used to pay uplines of GODS KNOW HOW MANY LAYERS!
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Hahahaha this is one of the proofs that after joining McOcean, anyone will just give fixed/textbook answers. They cannot argue correctly, hence they will try to avoid answering you directly.

Just like my ex-friend. When I confronted him about the dirty practices in McOcean, he just thanked me for my "opinion". LOL

He is either too simple-minded to know what is going on or he knew that he cannot win the argument.
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post Oct 26 2022, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Oct 26 2022, 04:53 PM)
Even more laughable, they dared to even brag about their products don't need any certification because they had won some award in Rome, Italy, back in 2019.

These awards are a Paid-to-Win. Where they paid the organizer to get to attend the ball and they will be given trophies and certs. Companies, with nothing to show for, will do that to fake achievement & increase publicity.

Hmmm, why this sounds familiar? Oh right, remember how they like to also said how "successful" they were, WHEN THEY GET TO ADVERTISE THEIR PRODUCTS ON NASDAQ, USA?

In both instances, they just PAY MONEY to get the recognition. But the funniest thing of all is, after more than 10 years in Malaysia, with all the tee ups and money spent, there is still no long queue outside of their office with people eager to buy ANY of their products. This is what I called as a FAILED PUBLICITY rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif 

Drama, Drama & more Drama. Nothing else but that... If you are here searching for the truth, I strongly advise you to walk away or quit from this kind of dishonest MLM.
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McOcean is like that kid that wants to show everyone how great he/she is. They will resort to anything, such as paying money and money and money just to get some sort of validation. Pay-to-Win is the biggest scam ever, but yet some people do not mind spending lots of RM for it.

Also, if you noticed on their website right, some of their grammar or spelling are wrong. Do they even care about it?
supermegathrone
post Oct 26 2022, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Oct 26 2022, 01:09 PM)
You underestimate their confidence when comes to spinning things out of context.
The crazier thing is some of them even believe in what they said.
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In McOcean, it is easy to be conned rather to be convinced that you have been conned.
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post Oct 27 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Oct 26 2022, 04:53 PM)
Even more laughable, they dared to even brag about their products don't need any certification because they had won some award in Rome, Italy, back in 2019.

These awards are a Paid-to-Win. Where they paid the organizer to get to attend the ball and they will be given trophies and certs. Companies, with nothing to show for, will do that to fake achievement & increase publicity.

Hmmm, why this sounds familiar? Oh right, remember how they like to also said how "successful" they were, WHEN THEY GET TO ADVERTISE THEIR PRODUCTS ON NASDAQ, USA?

In both instances, they just PAY MONEY to get the recognition. But the funniest thing of all is, after more than 10 years in Malaysia, with all the tee ups and money spent, there is still no long queue outside of their office with people eager to buy ANY of their products. This is what I called as a FAILED PUBLICITY rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif 

Drama, Drama & more Drama. Nothing else but that... If you are here searching for the truth, I strongly advise you to walk away or quit from this kind of dishonest MLM.
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It is not expensive to do it though to advertise on the Nasdaq board.
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post Oct 29 2022, 05:27 PM

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Company:
1) Sells overpriced, low quality garbage.
2) Paying for forged Awards and Achievements.
3) Offer Fake Diplomas to members.
4) Allow dishonest and unethical practices (shown below) to run rampant.
5) Harass ex-members who exposed their dirty deeds on social media.

Members/ Leaders:
1) Twisting facts and lie about their success (earn 5 figure income, time freedom, passive income etc).
2) Covering up important info like refund policy, maintenance, KP Bonus, real SPGB income from new members.
3) Use dishonest means to make new victims unable to refund their products (Open Product Packaging) or reduce the refund amount (Buying & Installing the Eioniser, Consuming the product during every meeting, training & camp).
4) Not returning the money to withdrawn members.
5) Spam FAKE 5 STAR GOOGLE REVIEWS to deceive public.


Food for thought:
DO YOU WANT TO ENTRUST YOUR LIFE SAVINGS/ TAKE BANK LOAN TO INVEST IN THIS KIND OF COMPANY?


This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: Nov 3 2022, 12:55 PM
Kokky
post Nov 1 2022, 09:52 AM

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Today, I'll share about some of the infamous KP's in Penang who claimed to lead successful lives.

1. KP W*i Sh**ng
- Super desperate in getting new prey under his network.
- Used to drive his so-called expensive car, just to show off how "successful" he is in life.
- Unrivalled cock-talking skill.
- Will do anything, everything just to achieve his goal (pulling prey into scheme).

2. KP E* Ke*
- The infamous b*tch who has destroyed countless lives.
- Her direct network crashed a long time ago, but decided to try again, destroying even more lives in the end.
- Returned to working life at local factory after earning 20k income (kononnya).
- Old hag, but since having a long blank period in her working experience, she failed to be promoted into Senior position.
- Claimed working is for losers, but ended up working also. Irony?
- "New" batch under her also collapsed and now she is doing all she can to con the remaining innocent minds of young Penangite.
- She is exceptional in brainwashing. She could make someone hate other people just with her lowly mouth. "Don't talk to her or him! They are negative!!!!". That's her famous catchphrase.

3. CKP En* Ke**
- Claimed to be super successful, but STILL CKP? After almost 2 years, still CKP?
- Always pretended to be okay, but deep inside his heart, he is just too proud to admit he has walked the wrong path.
- Please stop thinking you are good-looking, the bangla living near you looks better than you.

4. KP (?) E* Chy*
- The infamous nurse KP in Penang.
- Pulled and destroyed countless nurses' lives by trapping them in 50K+ debt.
- Refused to tell her downline about product withdrawal so that they could not withdraw.
- Despicable heart behind beautiful face.
- Many nurses who joined under her claimed to want to earn enough to payoff their contracts, but ended up getting even more debts. Where has your heart gone?

5. KP L*ng H*n & KP W*nd, "The Engineer Couple"
- Claimed to have quit their jobs and went all-out in this scheme.
- Super narrow-minded and paranoid, thinking everyone is out there to bring them down.
- Truth is, they have too many enemies. Everyone they see become their enemies.
- Went back to working. Funny, right?
- One should really see how W*nd does his presentation. He choked on his on saliva every 3 minutes. My niece can do better that him.

6. CKP Al*x & L*i Zh*n
- The infamous couple who used dating apps to lure out potential preys.
- The guy lured out female preys and the lady conned male ones.
- When one of their stronger networks crashed, they disappeared completely.

7. KP J*n*
- Still active with her conning.
- Her sister used to join under her, but left after finding out all the bad things that came with this scheme.
- Pretended to be super positive, but backstabbed others most of the fkin time.
- Oh ya, since she promotes health products, but she herself is fat AF.

8. KP Ji*t*ng
- Most despicable b*tch of all time, losing a bit behind KP E* K*e.
- Forced her own brother into this scheme so that she could be promoted into CKP.
- Always wore sexy clothes although she was attending formal events. Seriously, if no one knew her, one might think that she was a whore.
- In the end, moved to KL with another famous CKP, who is also notorious for his scamming.
- Very very good at dodging questions and acting noob. This is a good example of her hiding her own lack of knowledge. Ask her a simple thing like commission distribution and you can clearly see that she knows nothing (except scamming, of course.)

9. KP (?) H*i Sh*n
- A dumped-down version of J*t*ng.
- Kept asking, and successfully, pulled countless young architects into joining this scheme.
- Refused to let one of her downline to withdraw. Maybe she did it so that she could keep her meaningless rank?
- By the way, stop claiming yourself as an architect. You are a shame to all architects in the world, please.
- Also pulled her own sister to join, as if she alone was not enough. Her sister was jobless back then.

10. KP Z*ck
- A spoilt kid who thought he was a successful businessman. No, kid. You're just a conman.
- Has a bunch of other kids under him. They usually gather around, wearing suits to make themselves look like super successful, but the truth is, they have nothing.
- Very good at pulling young, innocent girls into his network.
- Just another snobbish child.
- Had the audacity to claim that he wants to expand his business to oversea countries. Wonder how his so-called expansion is now. Must be super successful already.

11. Ass-P Ky*n L*m
- A conman working at Intel Penang who, as he claimed various times, has a Master's certificate.
- Specifically uses dating apps to look for victims even though he already has a girlfriend back at KL.
- Refuses to refund his downlines who have withdrawn.
- Got married recently at KL and STILL REFUSED TO REFUND HIS SP!
- Eh, come on lah! How can you live like this? No shame?

Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, so-called successful entrepreneurs of Penang are just lies. Real entrepreneurs don't tell others how much money or what cars they drive, they simple do their businesses and earn their money in silence.

Sad to say, up until now, countless youngsters fell victims to the sugar-coated promises from irresponsible people like the ones I listed above.

They "utilized", as they would prefer to say, every means possible to "prospect". These means include official job-hunting platform like LinkedIn and dating apps.

Youngsters of Penang, wake the heck up!
Nothing comes easily and those that do, they usually have a great price to pay.
I know many youngsters want to get rich quick, but there really is no other than to work hard and learn to invest properly.
MLM is jut now the answer.

*bonus point: They always claim they don't read this forum. Let's not kid ourselves ok? You read it smile.gif Swallow that fact and ego. Stop destroying people's lives.
diggle123
post Nov 1 2022, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Nov 1 2022, 09:52 AM)
Today, I'll share about some of the infamous KP's in Penang who claimed to lead successful lives.

1. KP W*i Sh**ng
- Super desperate in getting new prey under his network.
- Used to drive his so-called expensive car, just to show off how "successful" he is in life.
- Unrivalled cock-talking skill.
- Will do anything, everything just to achieve his goal (pulling prey into scheme).

2. KP E* Ke*
- The infamous b*tch who has destroyed countless lives.
- Her direct network crashed a long time ago, but decided to try again, destroying even more lives in the end.
- Returned to working life at local factory after earning 20k income (kononnya).
- Old hag, but since having a long blank period in her working experience, she failed to be promoted into Senior position.
- Claimed working is for losers, but ended up working also. Irony?
- "New" batch under her also collapsed and now she is doing all she can to con the remaining innocent minds of young Penangite.
- She is exceptional in brainwashing. She could make someone hate other people just with her lowly mouth. "Don't talk to her or him! They are negative!!!!". That's her famous catchphrase.

3. CKP En* Ke**
- Claimed to be super successful, but STILL CKP? After almost 2 years, still CKP?
- Always pretended to be okay, but deep inside his heart, he is just too proud to admit he has walked the wrong path.
- Please stop thinking you are good-looking, the bangla living near you looks better than you.

4. KP (?) E* Chy*
- The infamous nurse KP in Penang.
- Pulled and destroyed countless nurses' lives by trapping them in 50K+ debt.
- Refused to tell her downline about product withdrawal so that they could not withdraw.
- Despicable heart behind beautiful face.
- Many nurses who joined under her claimed to want to earn enough to payoff their contracts, but ended up getting even more debts. Where has your heart gone?

5. KP L*ng H*n & KP W*nd, "The Engineer Couple"
- Claimed to have quit their jobs and went all-out in this scheme.
- Super narrow-minded and paranoid, thinking everyone is out there to bring them down.
- Truth is, they have too many enemies. Everyone they see become their enemies.
- Went back to working. Funny, right?
- One should really see how W*nd does his presentation. He choked on his on saliva every 3 minutes. My niece can do better that him.

6. CKP Al*x & L*i Zh*n
- The infamous couple who used dating apps to lure out potential preys.
- The guy lured out female preys and the lady conned male ones.
- When one of their stronger networks crashed, they disappeared completely.

7. KP J*n*
- Still active with her conning.
- Her sister used to join under her, but left after finding out all the bad things that came with this scheme.
- Pretended to be super positive, but backstabbed others most of the fkin time.
- Oh ya, since she promotes health products, but she herself is fat AF.

8. KP Ji*t*ng
- Most despicable b*tch of all time, losing a bit behind KP E* K*e.
- Forced her own brother into this scheme so that she could be promoted into CKP.
- Always wore sexy clothes although she was attending formal events. Seriously, if no one knew her, one might think that she was a whore.
- In the end, moved to KL with another famous CKP, who is also notorious for his scamming.
- Very very good at dodging questions and acting noob. This is a good example of her hiding her own lack of knowledge. Ask her a simple thing like commission distribution and you can clearly see that she knows nothing (except scamming, of course.)

9. KP (?) H*i Sh*n
- A dumped-down version of J*t*ng.
- Kept asking, and successfully, pulled countless young architects into joining this scheme.
- Refused to let one of her downline to withdraw. Maybe she did it so that she could keep her meaningless rank?
- By the way, stop claiming yourself as an architect. You are a shame to all architects in the world, please.
- Also pulled her own sister to join, as if she alone was not enough. Her sister was jobless back then.

10. KP Z*ck
- A spoilt kid who thought he was a successful businessman. No, kid. You're just a conman.
- Has a bunch of other kids under him. They usually gather around, wearing suits to make themselves look like super successful, but the truth is, they have nothing.
- Very good at pulling young, innocent girls into his network.
- Just another snobbish child.
- Had the audacity to claim that he wants to expand his business to oversea countries. Wonder how his so-called expansion is now. Must be super successful already.

11. Ass-P Ky*n L*m
- A conman working at Intel Penang who, as he claimed various times, has a Master's certificate.
- Specifically uses dating apps to look for victims even though he already has a girlfriend back at KL.
- Refuses to refund his downlines who have withdrawn.
- Got married recently at KL and STILL REFUSED TO REFUND HIS SP!
- Eh, come on lah! How can you live like this? No shame?

Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, so-called successful entrepreneurs of Penang are just lies. Real entrepreneurs don't tell others how much money or what cars they drive, they simple do their businesses and earn their money in silence.

Sad to say, up until now, countless youngsters fell victims to the sugar-coated promises from irresponsible people like the ones I listed above.

They "utilized", as they would prefer to say, every means possible to "prospect". These means include official job-hunting platform like LinkedIn and dating apps.

Youngsters of Penang, wake the heck up!
Nothing comes easily and those that do, they usually have a great price to pay.
I know many youngsters want to get rich quick, but there really is no other than to work hard and learn to invest properly.
MLM is jut now the answer.

*bonus point: They always claim they don't read this forum. Let's not kid ourselves ok? You read it smile.gif Swallow that fact and ego. Stop destroying people's lives.
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Shit. I encountered no.8.
She is really good at reverse psycho. But I am lucky because I have seen things enough to be immune to reverse psycho.


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post Nov 2 2022, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Nov 1 2022, 06:58 PM)
Shit. I encountered no.8.
She is really good at reverse psycho. But I am lucky because I have seen things enough to be immune to reverse psycho.
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Victim: So, what is this business you are doing?
JT: Well, what do you think my business is?

Victim: Err... Is this even legal?
JT: Well, do you think it's legal?

Victim: Goodness, are you even a human? Can you answer propoerly?
JT: Well, do you think I am a human?

If you know, YOU KNOW!
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post Nov 2 2022, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Nov 2 2022, 10:17 AM)
Victim: So, what is this business you are doing?
JT: Well, what do you think my business is?

Victim: Err... Is this even legal?
JT: Well, do you think it's legal?

Victim: Goodness, are you even a human? Can you answer propoerly?
JT: Well, do you think I am a human?

If you know, YOU KNOW!
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Hahaha, if this is her way of FAQ reply, confirm Red Flag flying everywhere in the victims head.

Simple fact, if you have nothing to hide/ have a genuine honest solution, why need to avoid answering?

If this is the latest Mc Ocean batch of MLM Salesman/ Saleswoman, this MLM future really very "bright" puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif
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post Nov 2 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Kokky @ Nov 2 2022, 10:17 AM)
Victim: So, what is this business you are doing?
JT: Well, what do you think my business is?

Victim: Err... Is this even legal?
JT: Well, do you think it's legal?

Victim: Goodness, are you even a human? Can you answer propoerly?
JT: Well, do you think I am a human?

If you know, YOU KNOW!
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You know after the second round "interview", she asked me if I have any questions. Before I get to ask, she said: "I am sure you don't have any because humans are born to find answers, right?"

Niama, such a dumb analogy.
People start asking the question first before there is an answer. Such simple logic also she failed to understand.
diggle123
post Nov 4 2022, 12:12 PM

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OPR just went up yesterday, all banks will follow in the footstep.

So, did your loan rate go up again?
Don't worry, there is another OPR hike coming early next year, probably another one in the second quarter.

Anyone hasn't take loan to join, think again.
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post Nov 7 2022, 12:14 AM

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Looks like they're having another event at Johor.

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post Nov 7 2022, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(diggle123 @ Nov 7 2022, 12:14 AM)
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Looks like they're having another event at Johor.
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Nah, its just them trying to show off a new member getting promoted to Knight Premier rank.

To them it is a huge deal because with their member's confidence are shaking and numbers are dwindling in this MLM, they will brag ANY SMALL NEWS to try to keep their downlines to remain in Mc Ocean and continue to recruit more victims to join.

Reality however, is that a Knight Premier rank member is really NOTHING. They earn peanuts every month, they are still employees working under someone else, they have lesser free time than normal people because they have to go Mc Ocean office or drive around everywhere most of the days (UNDER THEIR OWN EXPENSES by the way), more stress as their Upline Prince Premier will order them around like their personal slaves and with poorer health by the day.

I sincerely wish him all the best in his promotion. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:14 AM

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Reverse psycho all day night
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Reverse psycho all day night
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Translate lah..
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