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post Mar 20 2015, 02:50 AM

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I went for their preview in Fraser business park. wasted 6 hours of my life. If they were making so much of money they would have belanja me dinner at old town white coffee. But I paid myself...ok fine no problem...I went with an open mind...they told me a few famous activists joined it....They said the activists can fight for their cause while having passive income...went to their office..the whole thing dragged till midnight! Couldn't leave early as need to use the pass to open door...yeah apparently everyone has a freaking BMW...and yes there were a few clowns keep saying 'correct' or 'yes' without even understanding what the speaker was saying...

MLM is legal....it's just another business concept that's all...I don't really like the concept...these guys kinda pulled it off well to bring in prospects...they make you wonder and ask more questions...everything is a mystery untuk you go for business preview...they asked me to go mnu this Sunday....I didn't bother committing....I'm already amway member...I just buy their products.....


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post Mar 20 2015, 09:45 AM

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Here's a guide to help us distinguish between a legitimate MLM and an illegal pyramid scheme.

http://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...eting-explained
ShortLeg
post Jul 22 2015, 08:42 PM

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Why is this company still operating if its a ponzi scheme?
jeff10012003
post Jul 23 2015, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Jul 22 2015, 08:42 PM)
Why is this company still operating if its a ponzi scheme?
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do you ever see a thief company stop operating?
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post Jul 23 2015, 11:25 AM

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MLM, wonder how do we start one ourselves.

Hmm, anyway, who are the main audience of MLM? Is it old people with retirement money and ready to believe any nice dressed youngsters with 2006 bmws? Or is it college students looking for a quick way to get rich?

I have personally seen the rise and fall of a MLM founder. Driving a mazda rx8 in my uni, doing internship at his own MLM comp, never attending class and etc. 1 year later, his RX8 is gone, and he's back to attending classes, no more showing off and has became a quiet guy. Wonder what happened.
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post Jul 23 2015, 09:44 PM

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How does one ponzi scheme company have operated for more than 5 years now and still not caught?

What about those people who say they are making money in that company?
Where are the people who were cheated?

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post Jul 23 2015, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Jul 22 2015, 08:42 PM)
Why is this company still operating if its a ponzi scheme?
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You would come back and revive this topic to keep people talking about it...

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post Jul 23 2015, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 23 2015, 11:19 PM)
You would come back and revive this topic to keep people talking about it...

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Well,The company is still operating and my friend might be the latest victim so i'm just trying to garner more information.
My bad if you were offended.
JIUHWEI
post Jul 24 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Jul 23 2015, 11:30 PM)
Well,The company is still operating and my friend might be the latest victim so i'm just trying to garner more information.
My bad if you were offended.
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No offense taken. smile.gif

But why spend thousands of ringgit to join an MLM company?
No doubt it is a great motivation to sell or recruit.

I'm recruiting insurance agents.
You and your friends are all welcome to check it out.

In fact, I will be conducting a very casual insurance Q&A session at
The Bee @ Publika this Saturday (tomorrow)
2-4pm.
It's an informal meet, just me answering any question that anyone may have about
1. the insurance industry
2. products
3. claims
4. commercial insurance
5. personal financial planning.

I welcome you to join me with a cup of coffee. icon_rolleyes.gif




T3ars
post Jul 31 2015, 09:39 PM

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As far as i know out of curiosity =3 i when along as been invited by a friend to join. Because i just wanna know how they operate.

Yes they do sale products and i seen their products and some are really dam good.
But somehow i see is that most of them just go for the recruiting and not selling product.

Basically as far as common sense on the marketing plan is :

You Recruit you $ ( one time go )
Then if you don`t is 0

Then you sale product ? ( Idk what will you have )
But i know is like you earn more PV you get rank up but the Pv won`t reset like other MLM example Amway.

Well im gonna start to burn my RM 1980 soon just to explore haha. ( Don`t do this if you dont have spare $ to try )

So if they say Passive income like 10k the only assumption i can make is that they are selling the product.

Hmm still hard to tell i will let everyone know if does LOL.

Gonna be the Guinea pig for you guys LOL
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post Aug 1 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(T3ars @ Jul 31 2015, 09:39 PM)
As far as i know out of curiosity =3 i when along as been invited by a friend to join. Because i just wanna know how they operate.

Yes they do sale products and i seen their products and some are really dam good.
But somehow i see is that most of them just go for the recruiting and not selling product.

Basically as far as common sense on the marketing plan is :

You Recruit you $ ( one time go )
Then if you don`t is 0

Then you sale product ? ( Idk what will you have )
But i know is like you earn more PV you get rank up but the Pv won`t reset like other MLM example Amway.

Well im gonna start to burn my RM 1980 soon just to explore haha. ( Don`t do this if you dont have spare $ to try )

So if they say Passive income like 10k the only assumption i can make is that they are selling the product.

Hmm still hard to tell i will let everyone know if does LOL.

Gonna be the Guinea pig for you guys LOL
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you're wasting money on the wrong road.
if you want to really earn by mlm go for phytoscience.
at least you use your spare money much2 better and earn more than this shit.
and the best thing is, phytoscience is not listed in BNM blacklist yet.
this company already did.


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post Aug 1 2015, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Jul 23 2015, 09:44 PM)
How does one ponzi scheme company have operated for more than 5 years now and still not caught?

What about those people who say they are making money in that company?
Where are the people who were cheated?
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each time they know they almost kena, they change the company name.
so they can always have a new license to cheat.
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post Aug 1 2015, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Aug 1 2015, 02:21 PM)
each time they know they almost kena, they change the company name.
so they can always have a new license to cheat.
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Ah ic,

Thx bro LOL well i almost did yesterday.

But i make more survery. Call up all my friend who doing those Legit MLM like Amway or Cosway. They did tell me some of the dark story.

And also i did make some self research as well ask question here.

Seems so your right is fishy LOL.

So i guess im gonna bail =3

Btw now Mr Masan Already out of the Cabinet XD i doubt they will able to maintain the cheating anymore hehehe

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josh.
post Oct 1 2015, 11:59 AM

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reviving this tered once again, please halp mi how do i wake my friend up from this thingy, he has been brainwashed to this scheme for a year.
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post Oct 1 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(josh. @ Oct 1 2015, 11:59 AM)
reviving this tered once again, please halp mi how do i wake my friend up from this thingy, he has been brainwashed to this scheme for a year.
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none. in fact 1 year will further their saying, the company has been paying us for so long. as long as its his own money, why should u care? some1 prefer to buy branded cloths, some 1 prefer watches, some 1 prefer genting, every1 has their rights to spend their money.
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(josh. @ Oct 1 2015, 11:59 AM)
reviving this tered once again, please halp mi how do i wake my friend up from this thingy, he has been brainwashed to this scheme for a year.
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Is he actually making money? if he's doing well, then let him continue on.
Otherwise, better tell him to leave the "business".


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post Nov 24 2015, 01:24 AM

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Im next victim,persuade by my ex colleague

ask to join so called seminar on 22/11/15 at their building .when i went there mostly wear blazer,all look very smart like want to go to big company interview..their office at metro pudu.yes,they scream n shout,need to stand up and clap when the speaker want to give speech,dancing also.

At the 1st day,they will change ur mindset to look rm 10k is small amount of money only ( so when they ask u to get 35k loan from a bank,u are easily be influence icon_idea.gif )

on 2nd day,they will tell u so called secret recipe to gain succes n money by pay 35k(by making loan) to get STAR PREMIER rank (advantage - ur % of profit will be higher and can get 5k rebate!). they will tell u how to get capital back IF u get one downline which will become STAR PREMIER just like you to earn more money. rclxm9.gif


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i refuse to join but my fren keep presuade my like crazy,ask to join their tea party with their team tonite. it feels very annoying shakehead.gif


in my opinion

advantage-it sure will get u profit as much as promised IF u manage to get a downline(Which must be active and become STAR PREMIER) at least 1 downline per month,so u will get 4k per head.repeat the step until 10 level sure u will be rank up !

disadvantage-seriously ?35k loan from bank?interest?easy RHB? if u Failed to get one downline, say bye2 to ur 35k money and u need to pay it till end of time. and when all of them failed to get any downline,sure the pyramid system will kaput..they also got product...but who want to buy a never heard toothpaste brand just rm199! blink.gif blink.gif
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post Nov 25 2015, 01:43 PM

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Cant imagine this scam MLM company still exist after such a long year of cheating.
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(faizal87 @ Nov 24 2015, 01:24 AM)
Im next victim,persuade by my ex colleague

ask to join so called seminar  on 22/11/15 at their building .when i went there mostly wear blazer,all look very smart like want to go to big company interview..their office at metro pudu.yes,they scream n shout,need to stand up and clap when the speaker want to give speech,dancing also.

At the 1st day,they will change ur mindset to look rm 10k is small amount of money  only ( so when they ask u to get 35k loan from a bank,u are easily be influence icon_idea.gif  )

on 2nd day,they will tell u so called secret recipe to gain succes n money by pay 35k(by making loan) to get STAR PREMIER rank (advantage - ur % of profit will be higher and can get 5k rebate!). they will tell u how to get capital back IF u get one downline which will become STAR PREMIER just like you to earn more money. rclxm9.gif
short story nod.gif
i refuse to join but my fren keep presuade my like crazy,ask to join their tea party with their team tonite. it feels very annoying shakehead.gif
in my opinion

advantage-it sure will get u profit as much as promised IF u manage to get a downline(Which must be active and become STAR PREMIER) at least 1 downline per month,so u will get 4k per head.repeat the step until 10 level sure u will be rank up !

disadvantage-seriously ?35k loan from bank?interest?easy RHB? if u Failed to get one downline, say bye2 to ur 35k money and u need to pay it till end of time. and when all of them failed to get any downline,sure the pyramid system will kaput..they also got product...but who want to buy a never heard toothpaste brand just rm199!  blink.gif  blink.gif
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haha... money can be made so easily and morally like that, you can't find a poor person in this planet!
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:29 PM

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anyone have join or willing to help, just report to police. That all.

or report to newspaper organization, for sure they willing to send a spy going to join as member.....

Let it famous in the news.... so you can know it is scam or not...

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