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post Jul 25 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 24 2012, 08:22 PM)
Bang, what investment can get 15% yield in 1 year time??? Hahaha
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post Jul 25 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jul 24 2012, 10:54 PM)
learn from indon? u kidding me? ya, kerusuhan, so God exists, and wipe them out in one shot, remember tsunami? entire generation wiped out.

if u think owning a nice car is not encouraged, instead one should spend it on staying 5star hotel and buying expensive handbags or spend it on escorts? well, thats your money, but its FNF here.

if wanna talk about financial management, there is a section in lowyat, i'm sure u can learn a lot from there.

in FnF we talk cars, not how to save up and spend in dubai 5 star. thanks.

and i'm pissed when i see that example of indon.
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Just sharing stories, not teaching others.
It saddens me to see such person who are obviously jealous of others.

But If you are so worked up about it,sorry can't help you either, thats your decision.
But keep that sarcasm and jealousy to yourself will you, for the sake of others.

Again, like some people here shared that some rather spend on a posh car, but still live in a apartment.
Or some have a Proton Wira but living in a 2 1/2 story house.

P.s - FYI I'm not an Indonesian BTW. I'm a Malaysian. smile.gif

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post Jul 25 2012, 07:49 PM

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Different people different opinion la.

Some people buy nice car to impress themselves and their friend, because car is being driven out and seen by many others.
They do not care much about their living place as no one even bother that much about it.

Some other people buy better housing to enjoy and better living lifestyle. They do not care much about impressing others of their cars and luxury product, as long as they live happy and lack of nothing is more than enough.

I'd say that car does make me look rich. Ahem, a nice car like Accord.
By first impression, people will sees how expensive the product is and you had it in your hands. Although you're loaning it, but who cares about that, people talks about what they see in the current state.

In my own opinion, car is a needy tool in current days at KL. No car, means you got a hectic life with KTMs Buses or LRTs.
It does bring much advantages as it became my travelling tool. Talk about travelling, any car can do the job.

To buy a better car. I will do that when I have extra cash money which is really 'extra' and flexible enough to be spend to upgrade my vehicles. As long as the sum of money doesn't affect my lifestyle even if I spend it, it is all good
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 25 2012, 01:26 PM)
Just sharing stories, not teaching others.
It saddens me to see such person who are obviously jealous of others.

But If you are so worked up about it,sorry can't help you either, thats your decision.
But keep that sarcasm and jealousy to yourself will you, for the sake of others.

Again, like some people here shared that some rather spend on a posh car, but still live in a apartment.
Or some have a Proton Wira but living in a 2 1/2 story house.

P.s - FYI I'm not an Indonesian BTW. I'm a Malaysian. smile.gif
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wira with 2 1/2 storey house , it is either u buy the double storey house 10-15yrs ago, which is relatively cheap at that time , which is 90% correct...

u spend most of the time inside a car if u r working in kl... at least 2hours ? comfort is important....

balanced lifestyle ...
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post Jul 25 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Jul 23 2012, 11:35 PM)
Today a old friend of mine who work as sales exec ask me why i dont buy better cars as i just driving a dugong while he own a crz which he upgraded lately from a proton saga lmst.

He advise me to get another car instead of driving my cheap dugong.. He said dugong too common and not suitable for guy. I dont have comment about that as i more care about investment on properties which can earn $$..

I know as a sales exec might need better cars to prove to their customer that they are capable but i work in MNC i feel no need to waste money just to upgrade to one level right..?

I have few friends who work as sales also drive cars better than me but they are just staying in apartment and some just rent room/house. Good cars for me wont boost my salary.. I know good car for them might be helpful..

How do u guys think..? If got extra cash >90k on hand, you will change car..?
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Shyt! I'm not a guy anymore.... shocking.gif

Tell him to buy Lambo or Ferrari then i say he is a "guy" shakehead.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 24 2012, 10:25 AM)
I totally agree bro!

Why drive a BMW when a Myvi can take u from point A to B as well.

Sure you might be less safe, might be slower, less comfortable, lose some face...

But heck... at the end of the day... with all your smart investment... when you are 80+... you can flaunt your wealth and enjoy life man!  thumbup.gif


Added on July 24, 2012, 10:27 am

U assuming insurance agent dont make $$? They pay cash for superbikes bro....
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I love beemers but not in another 5 years, Dun need it now yet.
Im more an avid superbiker and mountain biker.
my bikes alone cost almost 3x my myvi but thats not the point. I bought
in in cash and the cash comes from my farming business, not from slaving frm 9 till whenever.
I dun work for the banks, that is what im proud of, though i dun plan to flaunt my wealth at 80!
Cant even walk properly by 80..how to flaunt? by 40 latest, ha!

This post has been edited by babyrabies: Jul 25 2012, 10:28 PM
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post Jul 26 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 25 2012, 01:26 PM)
Just sharing stories, not teaching others.
It saddens me to see such person who are obviously jealous of others.

But If you are so worked up about it,sorry can't help you either, thats your decision.
But keep that sarcasm and jealousy to yourself will you, for the sake of others.

Again, like some people here shared that some rather spend on a posh car, but still live in a apartment.
Or some have a Proton Wira but living in a 2 1/2 story house.

P.s - FYI I'm not an Indonesian BTW. I'm a Malaysian. smile.gif
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First, your indon story is stupid. its like saying, that girl got xxxxx because she wear sexy. then you trying to tell how safe it is to not wear sexy, ignoring the fact that it is your freedom to drive whatever car you wanted here, without fearing of your life been taking, or your daughter and wife xxxxx right in front of you.

second, bro, you sick? how can i jealous of you when you did not mention any of your wealth and your car? go get a life. who will be jealous of your stupid example , which is the only thing that you shared here? wait....you mean you're the millionaire that take bicycle and go shopping in dubai? like i care.

bad indon story, and i feel sorry about you when you try to use this kind of story to justify why you wanna drive rubbish car. even animals do not conduct those indon action. and God/superman/batman/mother nature wiped them out in one night.

Jealous? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


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post Jul 26 2012, 10:09 AM

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Make 1 point right. CRZ is not in above league then a vios.

Crz is just 2 doors and vios 4 doors. Vios can catch up with a crz no problem. stock vs stock.

Want status, if he drive a 2 door Audi,Mers or BMW ok la...

Crz..... my god... he really a sales man la..
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
In Medan, Indonesia, state of majourity chinese businessman,
You won't see flashy cars, and barely any Merc or BMWs. (There are few people though using Vellfires and Harriers)
I heard Jakarta you maybe able to find Ferraris and lamboughs, but not in Medan.
(Oh BTW, barely any Daihatsu Sirions (MYVI) there on the road.PROTON also cant be seen on the road, although they do have dealerships in Indo)
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You dont see Merc/BMWs in Medan cause the road/flood is BAD! My Odyssey 3.0 nearly stalled infront of Thamrin plaza due to what they consider a "minor" flood! My frens there driving 4wd/suvs all laughed at me.

Infact, the percentage of private sedans in medan is reall small.

QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
And in case some of you think Indonesia (and look down) is entirely made up of poor Indonesian maids ,labourers, beggars, think again.
There are also millionaires and billionaires hidden in Indonesia.
But they just don't want to show their wealth out in the public.
Why? If one were to read up the history (wikipedia) of Kerusuhan Mei 1998 and you've know what I mean. The chinese there learnt it the gruelsome past. 
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Not relevant. I just didnt like the 3 hours jam I got into from Kelapa Gading to Grand Hyatt last week. Alphard so what... no toilet in the car still uncomfortable. bleh.

QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
And also because in Indonesia, if you drive up a nice car, you're a potential target.
Ever heard of even side mirror of a Lexus Harrier being stolen while parked in Indonesia?
Yes I've heard of it too. Sounds silly but it had happened.
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Ever heard of even side mirror cover of an Inspira being stolen while parked in KL?
Yes I've heard of it too. Sounds silly but it had happened.


QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
Back In Malaysia, no offense, its the culture and mentality thinking.
Car = Potrays wealth image to some.
But in Indonesia, the rich & powerful Indonesian people spend their money on rewarding themselves travelling overseas frequently and shop,dine & stay in 5 star luxury.
Wait until you see how they spend their money, your eyes will pop out.
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Strange wor.... I just know my fren drove me in his Merc GL in the weekend when we go play airsoft. And got buy ferrari.. wait.. sorry.. that one is 2 frens in their 30s share.. cause no time drive so many car. When during the weekend BBQ, quite a few supercar turn up wor.

But in Malaysia, the rich & powerful Government people spend their money on rewarding themselves travelling overseas frequently and shop,dine & stay in 5 star luxury.
Wait until you see how they spend their money, your eyes will pop out.




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post Jul 27 2012, 02:55 AM

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Car can be an INTANGIBLE investment because you & your family worth more than any of your properties & investments, NO?

High-end card normally comes with more safety equipments. Car value drops but family value grows sitting in a safer car. Wealth is more than just dollar & cent, for me at least wink.gif

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-...rd/2010/Safety/

http://www.honda.net.my/model/safety/accord/


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Be humble, you don't have to bother what people thinks about you. Live your own live and by your own rules.
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post Jul 27 2012, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(dRaKoZ @ Jul 27 2012, 06:33 AM)
Be humble, you don't have to bother what people thinks about you. Live your own live and by your own rules.
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+ 1... even for sales person, for my self personally, I dont see what car my supplier drive, but the quality of service, price competitiveness etc that matters....

cheers....

again, you have are aeverage person, own an average car, save in FD, get the extra out for investment that provide return.. not depreciation
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dugong is good enough. Why burden yourself more becoz some friend said you should.

And just doing sales is not like you are some manager level ppl or rich businessman.

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i think if you really want to impress people, at least get a D segment or 200k above car with plenty cash in hand too smile.gif

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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 AM)
Car can be an INTANGIBLE investment because you & your family worth more than any of your properties & investments, NO?

High-end card normally comes with more safety equipments. Car value drops but family value grows sitting in a safer car. Wealth is more than just dollar & cent, for me at least  wink.gif

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-...rd/2010/Safety/

http://www.honda.net.my/model/safety/accord/
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+1

Not only that.... when you go holiday.. why stay in a 5 star hotel? Why not stay in a cheap Inn? Cause more comfort? more safety?

Applies to the car also.... u pay for the Comfort, Safety, etc.

Some peopel think the 30k they save by putting their family in a car without airbag is fine... up to them. Everyone have their own priority.
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post Jul 27 2012, 10:54 AM

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Rich means no need to do anything also got money to spend for life. Driving a nice car does not make one rich. What a stupid idea to spend hundred thousands on car when that money can work to make more money.
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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 AM)
Car can be an INTANGIBLE investment because you & your family worth more than any of your properties & investments, NO?

High-end card normally comes with more safety equipments. Car value drops but family value grows sitting in a safer car. Wealth is more than just dollar & cent, for me at least  wink.gif

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-...rd/2010/Safety/

http://www.honda.net.my/model/safety/accord/
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Are you by any chances is insurance or car salesman?
If you're not, you should become one. You'll make a great sales person. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 27 2012, 01:35 PM

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I see some forumers are attacking my personal opinions, and this is unwanted
But first , I apologise first for some rudeness in some my context.

Some choose to flash as much wealth as they want,drive Lamborghini, to make others envious and be snobbish.
Some choose to be humble even though they have abundance of wealth.

If you want to drive a Ferrari just to pick up some chics at ZOUK to hopefully to bang them tonight, go ahead.
No one stops you. I repeat. No one stops you. You have the cash. Its your money. Not mine.

But if you just have a MYVI right now and still happily socialise with friends for mamak, then go ahead also.
It still makes you happy. I'm happy also too.

Nobody says you are not allowed Ferrari, Lamborghini.
I also want a Aston Martin if I could really afford one.
Everyone surely has their dream cars.

But if you cannot afford one now, be grateful for what car you have NOW. yes. Grateful.
Be it just a MYVI, Kancil, Saga BLM, etc. Because its happier to be grateful of what you own now.
Than being over envious of other people driving posh cars.
Life is meant to be happy. So what if you just have a MYVI.Its you yourself is happy driving it. Not for him/her driving the Ferrari.

If anyone still disagrees about whatever I share about my Indo story, and thinks they know better than me.
Thats your opinion. Sarcasm doesn't help either. Period. I am happy with my current lifestyle.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jul 27 2012, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 AM)
Car can be an INTANGIBLE investment because you & your family worth more than any of your properties & investments, NO?

High-end card normally comes with more safety equipments. Car value drops but family value grows sitting in a safer car. Wealth is more than just dollar & cent, for me at least  wink.gif

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-...rd/2010/Safety/

http://www.honda.net.my/model/safety/accord/
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 27 2012, 10:52 AM)
+1

Not only that.... when you go holiday.. why stay in a 5 star hotel? Why not stay in a cheap Inn? Cause more comfort? more safety?

Applies to the car also.... u pay for the Comfort, Safety, etc.

Some peopel think the 30k they save by putting their family in a car without airbag is fine... up to them. Everyone have their own priority.
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Buying an expensive car for comfort and safety I can agree, but buying a car for the sole purpose of impressing your peers is another thing.

But one can argue that owning a nice ride that impresses others makes one happy, and you can't put a price on happiness. To that I can only say, each to his own.

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QUOTE(barista @ Jul 27 2012, 10:54 AM)
Rich means no need to do anything also got money to spend for life. Driving a nice car does not make one rich. What a stupid idea to spend hundred thousands on car when that money can work to make more money.
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dear philosopher. do tell me the amount of millions that you have in your bank right now. rich don't need to do anything? that's the biggest joke ive ever heard. looks like the only rich that you are looking at are 20 year old kids who drives his dad's ferrari.


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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 27 2012, 01:56 PM)
But one can argue that owning a nice ride that impresses others makes one happy, and you can't put a price on happiness. To that I can only say, each to his own.
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driving a nice car reflects what you have achieved and that makes you happy. of course, everyone has their ego to feed, just to the point of how much does the ego needs to be fed. if a young chap buys a civic with a rm1000 loan from his rm3000 loan, that's feeding way too much for his ego. if another chap gets a free civic from his dad, that's his luck. i don't see the point of butthurt in this case. all i can see these days are people with nice clothes and nice rides but can't afford a nice meal in the mall.

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