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post Jul 22 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Jul 22 2012, 11:22 AM)
circular logic is circular logic.

so what makes a right, a right?  laugh.gif
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I think what he was saying is that they should be deprived of their rights because they are a majority. What makes a right, a right is another thing that I suppose you should ask governments about smile.gif

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post Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM)
that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly.
you went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indian

if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life.
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So you mean hindraf is a scam? Since they always shout that indians are being discriminated? I thought previously you talk so much about KBP folks being discriminated that they are "forced" out of their own land? So now suddenly all is jolly good for you, lol.

So what is wrong if mahafiaun admits his dna is more of an indian? Can ridhuan tee's offspring deny that their dna is more of a chinese later on in their life? Or will they conveniently pass off as a malay?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 22 2012, 11:25 AM)
I think what he was saying is that they should be deprived of their rights because they are a majority. What makes a right, a right is another thing that I suppose you should ask governments about smile.gif
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and you accepted the right blindly? laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:27 AM

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This has somehow become Real World Issues.
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 05:29 AM)
im just telling out the truth. some people neglect the truth so they find easy way out blaming others for their sorry life, instead of working hard to achieve success.
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I guess you are saying that those millions of indian estate workers are not working hard enough. Am i right?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:31 AM

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when he going to get 2nd, 3d and 4th wife?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Jul 21 2012, 04:28 PM)
dan saya setuju
chinese is very powerful,just like the jews
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bangsa cina tak merbahaya seperti bangsa yahudi.bangsa cina dikategorikan sebagai non-muslim seperti bangsa lain.tapi bangsa yahudi kena berjaga jaga.Nabi pun diorang sanggup bunuh(nabi yahya kalau tak salah aku kena potong 2 dengan gergaji)...

Saki baki yahudi yang ada hari ini.merupakan saki yahudi yang ada pada masa yang lepas. unsure.gif
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post Jul 22 2012, 12:15 PM

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What about Muslim Jews? Serious question, no offence intended.
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post Jul 22 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 22 2012, 11:51 AM)
bangsa cina tak merbahaya seperti bangsa yahudi.bangsa cina dikategorikan sebagai non-muslim seperti bangsa lain.tapi bangsa yahudi kena berjaga jaga.Nabi pun diorang sanggup bunuh(nabi yahya kalau tak salah aku kena potong 2 dengan gergaji)...

Saki baki yahudi yang ada hari ini.merupakan saki yahudi yang ada pada masa yang lepas. unsure.gif
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Just because some jews did bad thing, doesnt mean the whole jews should be condemn
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post Jul 22 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 01:51 PM)
Just because some jews did bad thing, doesnt mean the whole jews should be condemn
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jews still a jews.hence the name...perangai diorang bergenerasi masih sama...
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QUOTE(Annoynimous @ Jul 22 2012, 12:15 PM)
What about Muslim Jews? Serious question, no offence intended.
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kalau tanya aku.aku cakap 50-50.jews otak diorang sangat bergeliga.sangat pandai putarbelit.sangat pandai dalam soaljawab...itu pasal Negara arab boleh duduk dengan yahudi.yahudi boleh duduk ditengah2 negara arab. tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Jul 22 2012, 05:31 AM)
This guys is a traitor
He sell his soul for benefits
Itsut like those chinese who served Japanese military during world war 2 for benefits
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:12 AM)
Next you'll be saying anyone and everyone who bowed their heads when the British and later on the Japanese overlords walk past were all traitors without any exceptions.
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This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor.

Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor.
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post Jul 22 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 03:46 PM)
This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor.

Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor.
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meanwhile there are hundreds and thousands of chinese muslims who dont have to become malay to be muslim.


They're still perfectly chinese, and muslim.
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post Jul 22 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 03:46 PM)
This is what we call a selective judgement. One fella who convert to islam and openly telling the truth about his race and criticisize the over kiasu attitude of certain people are call traitor.

Another fella who was a politician and openly admitted he is the type of person who the end justify the means and historically proven he is traitor, according to some, is not a traitor.
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Errr...that's not the truth; that is his opinion only and he might well be wrong.

Why keep bringing up his conversion? Does it lend more weight to his opinions?
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM)
So you mean hindraf is a scam? Since they always shout that indians are being discriminated? I thought previously you talk so much about KBP folks being discriminated that they are "forced" out of their own land? So now suddenly all is jolly good for you, lol.

So what is wrong if mahafiaun admits his dna is more of an indian? Can ridhuan tee's offspring deny that their dna is more of a chinese later on in their life? Or will they conveniently pass off as a malay?
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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 11:29 AM)
I guess you are saying that those millions of indian estate workers are not working hard enough. Am i right?
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First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters.

Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam.

Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian.
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:00 PM)
First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is  illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters.

Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam.

Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian.
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I guess you are also good at passing on opinions as truths...
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 22 2012, 03:54 PM)
Errr...that's not the truth; that is his opinion only and he might well be wrong. 

Why keep bringing up his conversion?  Does it lend more weight to his opinions?
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Yes. You are right. that is merely his opinion and he might be wrong. But that still does not justify himself to be called a traitor. I am stating fact that he is muslim. Thats all.
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:05 PM)
Yes. You are right. that is merely his opinion and he might be wrong. But that still does not justify himself to be called a traitor. I am stating fact that he is muslim. Thats all.
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Hey, why not? Those people are expressing their opinions. And they might well be right.

That's all? You been saying it and saying it again. Should mean something.
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(klk888 @ Jul 22 2012, 12:56 AM)
So is hindraf for hindus only or also for indian muslim? Also, can we get mahathir to do a dna test to see he is more of an indian or malay?
Why is Indian in malaysia neglected when they have one as a national leader?
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QUOTE(vexus @ Jul 22 2012, 11:31 AM)
when he going to get 2nd, 3d and 4th wife?
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After he become menteri...

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