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klk888
post Jul 22 2012, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 21 2012, 05:26 PM)
mahafiraun is mahathir? go read at his blog and see how he never filter any of the comments. unlike anwar ibrahim who shoo away anyone who ask question not favor of him in press conference. and mahathir cannot tolerate critics?
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So is hindraf for hindus only or also for indian muslim? Also, can we get mahathir to do a dna test to see he is more of an indian or malay?
Why is Indian in malaysia neglected when they have one as a national leader?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:25 AM)
that is characteristic of him as a leader. leaders lead and we gotta admit he did pretty well. it was the same as lee kuan yew too where he doesnt like critics and he admit it openly.
you went too far to even question his colour. you should look into yourself. i am indian myself and i am doing well and i dont know which part of me or my family were being neglected where we dont even have any political influences at all. me and my family are just normal citizen and we dont have any bumi rights to begin with. but all of us, human being have one thing in common to success, that is hard work. lots of indian out there realize about this and they start working hard and some even better than me, they own restaurant, open their law practice, their clinics and some even monopoly the satellite tv. yes they are indian

if you all about asking a favour you might get it but in return it wont be a dignify life.
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So you mean hindraf is a scam? Since they always shout that indians are being discriminated? I thought previously you talk so much about KBP folks being discriminated that they are "forced" out of their own land? So now suddenly all is jolly good for you, lol.

So what is wrong if mahafiaun admits his dna is more of an indian? Can ridhuan tee's offspring deny that their dna is more of a chinese later on in their life? Or will they conveniently pass off as a malay?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 05:29 AM)
im just telling out the truth. some people neglect the truth so they find easy way out blaming others for their sorry life, instead of working hard to achieve success.
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I guess you are saying that those millions of indian estate workers are not working hard enough. Am i right?
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post Jul 22 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 22 2012, 11:51 AM)
bangsa cina tak merbahaya seperti bangsa yahudi.bangsa cina dikategorikan sebagai non-muslim seperti bangsa lain.tapi bangsa yahudi kena berjaga jaga.Nabi pun diorang sanggup bunuh(nabi yahya kalau tak salah aku kena potong 2 dengan gergaji)...

Saki baki yahudi yang ada hari ini.merupakan saki yahudi yang ada pada masa yang lepas. unsure.gif
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Just because some jews did bad thing, doesnt mean the whole jews should be condemn
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 04:00 PM)
First of all, hindraf is not a scam. It is illegal organization who have blur mission and objective and they dont have clear path on what they are trying to achieve and what they are trying to fight for. Same like perkasa who are nothing but just a media show. They will assembly, make noise and media will be there. nothing more than that. The only different is hindraf is  illegal, and they use force. remember their first illegal demo when they claimed they have been brutalised but as a matter of fact they are the ones who throw stones and beat the crap out of the police. It was like punching buffet for klang gangsters.

Both mahathur and ridhuan tee never deny their blood. Ridhuan tee still visits his parents and they have very good relationships and that my friend is the teaching of islam.

Third. I am indian, my grandparents was cattle farmer in kampung buah pala and we are poor. My parents work hard and land him a small flat. I work had and i bought a terrace and an apartment. Not only me but lots of indian work hard and they got what they deserve and we dont even need any special rights. You are trying so hard to paint a poor picture on indian community giving false image that indian are soo poor and heavily marginalised where the fact we are doing extremely well and we are all are having a healthy discussion in the largest online community in malaysia, founded by an indian.
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No, i did not mention that the Indian are poor. I am merely quoting what Hindraf and other Indian based NGOs are saying. They say that majority of Indian are marginalized, and you are telling me otherwise. So, either you are right and or they are right. If you are right, then those Indian based NGOs are spreading lies all these while, am I right? That is the question i am throwing to you, and you dont have to twist and turn to answer, just yes and no will do.

Secondly, since when did Mahathir says he is an Indian? Can an Indian join UMNO, instead of MIC? Please enlighten me. Thank You.

Also, being filial is a teaching of Confucius. And that dated back to aprrox 500 BC, while Islam is being founded aprox 600AD .
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post Jul 22 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 05:03 PM)
I am twist and turn and you expect a yes and no answer from me? Playing lawyer now. You should tell me earlier, saves me trouble to write a lengthy post.

Islam teach its follower to love and respect parents especially mother. I am not arguing who starts the idea, but then again you might end up accuse me twist and turn.
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So you dont have the guts to say all those Indian based NGOs are lying?
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post Jul 22 2012, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 07:02 PM)
Why should i accuse them of lying? All of ngos regardless of race have their own objectives. Hindraf are not ngos and they are illegal and they have blur vision about what they are fighting for. They accuse the government are sideline the indian which is off course not true. I dont go ballisitc and call all of the ngos are lying. I hope you can engage in this discussion in such a healthy and respective manner.
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But most Indian based NGOs are accusing the goverment of sidelining the Indian. Since you are right, they must be lying then. So, please go ahead and sue this NGO and tell them right on their face that they are a LIAR for accusing the goverment.
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post Jul 22 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 07:24 PM)
You got it worng, ridhuan tee is not a malay on the first place. He is mualaf. A muslim convert. Muslim is not exclysively only for malay. This misconception should be clear.

You can google and see how even a norwegian convert to islam and and they are muslim and they are not malay.
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How do you define Malay? This is what according to the constitution of Malaysia. You seems to enjoy putting your own personal opinion as the Gospel truth without caring about facts.



Article 160(2) of the Constitution of Malaysia defines various terms used in the Constitution. It has an important impact on Islam in Malaysia and the Malay people due to its definition of a Malay person. The article defines a Malay as a person who satisfies two sets of criteria:
First, the person must be one who professes to be a Muslim, habitually speaks the Malay language, and adheres to Malay customs.
Second, the person must have been:
(i) (a) domiciled in the Federation or Singapore on Merdeka Day, (b) born in the Federation or Singapore before Merdeka Day, or © born before Merdeka Day of parents one of whom was born in the Federation or Singapore, (collectively, the "Merdeka Day population") or
(ii) is a descendent of a member of the Merdeka Day population.

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post Jul 22 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 09:24 PM)
You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divine

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Will you register your child as an Indian or Malay?


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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2012, 09:24 PM)
You are right it is the highest law in any country but can you imagine people are actually want to amend the constitution? Plus is is a man made law so please dont be like some who take it as divine

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Will you register your child as an Indian or Malay?

This post has been edited by klk888: Jul 22 2012, 10:49 PM
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post Jul 23 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 02:05 AM)
i dont know why you need to ask such question. is it really necessary for you to know?
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You are a proud Indian Muslim, and you keep saying that. So, i dont see why you cant give a direct answer as you will register your child as Indian.

Remember dont lie in the Ramadhan month.
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jul 23 2012, 10:59 AM)
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Lets see how he twist
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 23 2012, 10:35 AM)
I asked pertinent question about the amendments made to the constitution.  But you don't want to answer.  whistling.gif
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Your question he needs to consult Utusan how to spin.
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post Jul 23 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jul 23 2012, 02:33 PM)
leeches, has been going around tok cock and bull without facts. suggesting that songlap is OKAY under the current administration. must be one of the pro BN cronies. i wonder how much he got for getting to be a BN trooper? leeches, mind telling us how CIA trained you?
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He is still waiting for Utusan directive to spin his way out i guess.
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 23 2012, 04:39 PM)
wow this thread has become a hate thread about me. so much for the freedom of speech.
i will just leave it here and will not answer any of the above. feel free to make any assumption to suit your ego
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Sad that your master abandon you and did not provide you with any script to spin.

Anyway, what is so hard to say u wont register your child as Indian Muslim? Unless of course you already have some funky idea to benefit from our system. Remember dont lie during Ramadan, dear newly convert.
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(funnybone @ Jul 23 2012, 04:40 PM)
Who the heck is this ridhuan tee btw?
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Refer to forumer leechers for your question, but imagine it in yellow colour

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