This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 15 2017, 09:28 AM

Try not to act so smug? This wasn't how mf worked according to what was posted before. Mf affecting rolls was info posted just 24 hours ago.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 15 2017, 09:28 AM

No. Higher level doesn't increase chance to drop 6 affix, MF does.

It just has higher base chance to drop higher ilvls. But that advantage can be evened with MFing lower acts.

MF% 290 here.....still not getting any good item....Act 1-Act 3.....feel the same....some time act 3 elite drop 52 lv....item -.-

ever get any 1h weapon abv 1k dps ?:

You will find, dear sir, that Blizzard told the community that mf worked exactly like in D2, ie it only affected drop rate, not quality. That's why people are so puzzled over on General Discussion. Not targeting you specifically, just correcting misinformation.

Have a good day.

THIS^

nabs laboo time u got stormshield i use full MF gear with swap macro thats why...fffuuuuuuuu.. lulz. luckily got better stormshield yday with 30% block if not ayam still rage haha...

btw juz now no NV and 11%MF , my 1st elite drop 279 DEX glove and 8.5 cric chance worth 30-50m lol...dunno why this week luck so sky high... -.-

this one i agree..
high MF% guarantee quality item?
bullshit

only 2 hand....so far 1 hand....all below 800 -.-

wanna test?

Go do the alaric quest in act 1.
Go to the warriors rest, get the checkpoint, kill the elite.
tp to town.
leave game, and resume game.

repeat for an hour and post results.

ok...let u know the result

ya give input on item level and rare/legendary results.

Its very hard to say...I tried b4 I farm without MF 1 day I got 2 legendary..

and CB with 200mf I got only rare

The theory that mf in act 1 is better than no mf on act 3 only holds true if the base affix drop rates of elite are same throughout the acts.
Pretty sure it is not.

If I ask you how much base 6 affix drop rate for act 1 and for act 3, would you know?

Speculatively, the numbers could even be as extreme as for act 1 you have a base chance of 0.75%, and with 300%mf youd get it up to 3%, while in act 3 you may already have a base of 4%
What youre proposing require base chance of act1 to be as high as act 3 which is in a perfect world, act 1 elites chance to drop 6 prop is 4% and same as act 3.Pretty damn sure that isnt the case.

If you approach from dev pov, youd ideally want a ratio which scales with the max mf across all act so it all ties up.
Thats why act 1 and act 2 was also buffed when act 3 was buffed.They dont simply put out random numbers.(hint:if youre a nerd, you can investigate the ratio using the buffed numbers from the changelog and slide in the max mf somewhere in the calculations too )

Youd want to design the game to be somewhat like this:(just hypothetically)
Farming effectiveness of Act 1 with max mf = Act 2 with half the max mf = Act 3 without mf

So in a sense, a player ultimate goal would be farming in act 3 with a little mf by sacrificing offense/defense here and there.

The priority of the design should be that you sacrifice offensive/defensive stats in favor of mf, and there should be a threshold of which you are able to do so, which mf swapping completely destroys as you can go full brunt and still get the benefits of max mf+high ilvl drop rate+high base affix drop rate.

Thats why mf swap is so prevalent in act 3 and will be nerfed as it goes above the limiting shackle of drop rate ratio.
The multiplicative nature of mf means right now, act 3 swappers ARE WAY beyond the end of the spectrum in terms of drop rate.





This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Jul 14 2012, 03:27 AM

i farm with 340-350 buffed always..... and when the server is crap... what? 5 affix? many suffer the same thing. its not just me

he should read this



Items & Equipment

he will not ask you for game anymore..

Do you understand what is probability? Guarantee =/= higher chance

MF gives you higher chance, it has been proven by studies published. Blizzard also already published in game guide that MF affects affix quanitity of rare.

The problem is there is no finding that Act 3 has higher base affix count. The only study that is ever proven is that Act 3 has high drop chance of ilvl 63, and that's all. I'm in the camp that Act 3 drops have the same standard affix tier and lower Acts.

As a statistically pointless anecdote, I have been farming Act 3 regularly yet my earnings far lags behind my friend who farms Act 1 with 250MF, a factor of 10 to 1.

If you're still interested, a Reddit post is up for ongoing studies on the effects of MF on Affix count, probably on Goblins.

Max 1H item is 800+. Got a blue spear that's damn powerful at 832DPS.

Nope. There are better dps 1H available and some are godlike:

Credits to kuekwee.