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post Jul 24 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 24 2012, 04:06 PM)
i saw your stats screenshot. really godlike, nice AS nice CC nice LoH
how i wish for such stats but no money  cry.gif

i see that you are using an axe too. means all your gear have CC, AS and CD?
how to buff axe until 2 attack per second bro?

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I think its easier to start with IAS+ then ASI . Say dagger with 1.5 aps + 11% IAS = 1.66 liao..then from there if you get stack ASI..it will x% of 1.66.

eg. dagger with IAS 11% x 10% ASI = 1.826

dagger normal x 21% ASI = 1.815


Thats what I think la...correct me if I am wrong.
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post Jul 24 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 24 2012, 04:06 PM)
i saw your stats screenshot. really godlike, nice AS nice CC nice LoH
how i wish for such stats but no money  cry.gif

i see that you are using an axe too. means all your gear have CC, AS and CD?
how to buff axe until 2 attack per second bro?

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 04:10 PM)
I also follow flix's build. :-)

His other items IAS quite high. His axe pumps dps and crit dmg :-)
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Yup. I stack up on attack speed items. My axe has IAS which helps a lot too.
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:15 PM

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How to kill Ghom the fat fart?? mad.gif
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 05:15 PM)
How to kill Ghom the fat fart??  mad.gif
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I thought you already know? tonight we try? I am at keep level 3.
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 05:16 PM)
I thought you already know? tonight we try? I am at keep level 3.
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I stuck at the big fat fart now.
Any special way to kill it?

I used MoC(Overawe) and sailed smoothly until the fat fart.


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post Jul 24 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 05:19 PM)
I stuck at the big fat fart now.
Any special way to kill it?

I used MoC(Overawe) and sailed smoothly until the fat fart.
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Unkle's Quazacolt's Ghom kill
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 05:15 PM)
How to kill Ghom the fat fart??  mad.gif
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so many forumer dah post videos/stats, flip back a few pages la. (or show post by me/cowwithgun (sp?) and look at our videos)


Added on July 24, 2012, 5:53 pm
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 05:23 PM)
aiks didnt notice you replied with link, much thanks!

also im no unker sad.gif


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 09:38 AM)
Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?
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personally, MoH because there are things you just cannot dodge. the on activation shield + boosted healing is good too if your effective health is high.

MoE has let me down in act2/3 too much to even bother it further usages. and my armor /resistance for the most part is in tuned on the 10:1 ratio with MoH, unless a barb steps in then my resistance shoots off the roof (1.6k from the top stats thread lol)


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:04 AM)
That also depends on who are you dealing with.

Bosskill : MoH is kinda useless as either they 1hit you or not (like butcher/belial's case) so MoE with dodge is always better. IMHO as for MoC against bosskill, if your attack is high enough you don't even need that to add another few seconds reduction. Better opt for high armor in case you can't avoid the Oh-Shi~ moment.

Elite: As what Sifus' are advised.

NOTE: Dual wield with Guardian's path adds another 15% dodge chance.
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its actually better for boss kills/events because there are some things that are undodgable
eg: once you got hooked by butcher and stun, you cannot dodge
you cant dodge belial's ground explosions (but you can block AFAIK)
cannot dodge azmodan's corpse rain and black ground thingy
cant dodge diablo's flames/fireball aftermath DOT/prison

also dodge is not 100%, after you're passed 60-70% mark it gets diminished so quickly it's hard to get any more without sacrificing your other stats (this is coming from me who had 2k+ dex before btw)


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:07 pm
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 24 2012, 10:08 AM)
Not really.

Example.
Base: 7000 armor (70% DR) 400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 91% DR
Hard Target 8400 armor (73.68% DR)  400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.11% DR
Time of Need 7000 armor (70% DR)  480 resist (61.54% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.91% DR

Time of Need gives only extra 0.8% DR, but at a loss of 15% / 30% dodge.
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it isnt 15/30% btw, it is a multiplicative addition means you're losing less than 15/30% dodge depending what is your current dodge.


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:09 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 10:30 AM)
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?
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not really. my mystic ally in fact tanks better than me depending on circumstances.
it FOR SURE has more hp than i am

and its resist/armor scales from mine.

mind you my earth ally can face tank diablo's lightning breath while i barely could despite having the added ability to dodge/block its breath lol.


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:12 pm
QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:44 AM)
Mystic Ally is just to buff my 10% HP and hopefully can distract the other mobs just enough time for me to kill the others. As my CC n CD is high, he himself does about 10-20K Dmg. :-) HP i think also mroe then me, LOL. It only weakness is there's no AR to him. LOL, once go into molten or plague confirm die haha.
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his resistance 100% scales from you. i just dont have the paper as to how much.
you can try going in 0 resist and have ur mystic ally sit on plague, while putting on maybe 1k resist and have it doing the same again smile.gif

the biggest difference is that YOU can get outta plague, he cant. he's stupid lol.

and yes, earth ally is priceless when fighting elites as you can focus 1 down while he distract the rest. or provide additional distraction when you're kiting (so not all of them are together and banging down on your face)


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:48 AM)
Actually how much armor on average is sufficient? I've saw some 10k armor build and I was  shocking.gif
7k armor + 700AR + 40k hp?
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my avg is 10-11k armor and 1-1.1k all resist.
highest armor reached was around 12-13k, resistance 1.6k as posted

however i can assure you that you do not need as much as evident by other monks.
in fact i am gearing up for offensive stats now and am toning down on my defensive gears/separate them for tank/dps sets


Added on July 24, 2012, 6:16 pm
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 11:30 AM)
200resist can survive?
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i do my act 1 with 200+ resist and a 2 hander doing crits that are over 100k lol

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post Jul 24 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2012, 05:52 PM)
it isnt 15/30% btw, it is a multiplicative addition means you're losing less than 15/30% dodge depending what is your current dodge.

yeah i know, i was lazy to elaborate and also assumed most people would already know this by now
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 11 2012, 01:35 PM)
Like this

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346647/+2482

You had at least 50% HP most of the time.
Cow, how did you do it? Watching the video, your HP doesn't drain fast.
What's the trick? You have more AR, armor, LOH, life regen? Or a special combo of skills?
What's your AR, armor, LOH, life regen and skills?

Watching your video, you could cast you skill before the HP drained.
The skill was able to cool down in time.
For me, my HP drained before skills cool down.
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post Jul 24 2012, 08:34 PM

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post Jul 24 2012, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 24 2012, 08:34 PM)
Uncle Quaza has a nice ring to it innocent.gif
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:07 PM

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Quaz maybe you can add the video of killing Ghom in the first post.
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 07:54 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346647/+2482

You had at least 50% HP most of the time. 
Cow, how did you do it? Watching the video, your HP doesn't drain fast.
What's the trick? You have more AR, armor, LOH, life regen? Or a special combo of skills?
What's your AR, armor, LOH, life regen and skills?

Watching your video, you could cast you skill before the HP drained.
The skill was able to cool down in time.
For me, my HP drained before skills cool down.
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For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming biggrin.gif

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k

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post Jul 25 2012, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 24 2012, 11:07 PM)
Quaz maybe you can add the video of killing Ghom  in the first post.
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done biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 02:41 AM

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Noob monk here, what skill setup u guy use to farm at act 2 ? with 14.5k dps /33k hp 780 ar/ 8k def / 0 LOH full buff i cant stand up act 2 elite. My setup skill now
1. deadly reach/keen eye
2. Sweeping wind/ cyclone
3. Breath of Heaven / Pen. Flame
4. Earth ally
5. Mantra of Healing / BoI

Hope some sifu can give some tips
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post Jul 25 2012, 07:06 AM

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how i wish i am at home now... bid on a amor... 4h left.. arrrhhhh.. T.T
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post Jul 25 2012, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 25 2012, 07:06 AM)
how i wish i am at home now... bid on a amor... 4h left.. arrrhhhh.. T.T
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install AH 3 on office laptop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 25 2012, 07:06 AM)
how i wish i am at home now... bid on a amor... 4h left.. arrrhhhh.. T.T

bid ALL your gold and let proxy bidding do the job for you tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 25 2012, 08:21 AM)
bid ALL your gold and let proxy bidding do the job for you tongue.gif
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haha.. x dak gold la.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2012, 07:36 AM)
install AH 3 on office laptop biggrin.gif
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sweat.gif sweat.gif bcoz of D3 ..kena tuang kerja.. habis laugh.gif


now my monk kelam kabut.. duno what to focus.. this kenot that kenot.. arghh.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 25 2012, 08:33 AM)
haha.. x dak gold la.. laugh.gif
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  bcoz of D3 ..kena tuang kerja.. habis laugh.gif
now my monk kelam kabut.. duno what to focus.. this kenot that kenot.. arghh..  doh.gif
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i got AH 3 installed on my office laptop btw tongue.gif

i lazy focus, buying legendary set pieces now mix matching for the build i want biggrin.gif



anyways just did a farming run earlier on my monk on act 2, 5NV > kulle > belial. 1 hour 15mins or so. not too bad i think. only 2-3 deaths out of own carelessness.

buffed dmg on dps gear (still manage to retain 500+ all resist and about 6k armor, with shield around 600+ and 7k armor, no resistance/armor buff cuz all maximizing dmg XD):
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enchantress got almost 2.6k int and 5.7k dmg btw tongue.gif

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