how much victory gore and cat's knock?

ugpm!

works like this:

if the damage you deal = 100k
3% life steal = 3k life back to you

but since inferno nerf that to 20%, you only get 3k * 20% = 600 life.

that is almost the same as if you have a LoH of 600.

except, LoH has co-efficiency on multiple target. meaning to say, when you use skill such as FoT (that hit multiple targets), you only get 75% of 600 LoH. but it's for every target.

Life steal does not have co-efficiency, so, you will get pure 600 on each target.

range got nothing to do with this.

If you got 100k damage deal. Most of our monk deal how much damage? My dps is just 16k with 200% critical hit is only 30k maybe? Life steal nerfed so you get 200 life back.
LoH 600 is always 600 whether you hit a target dealing 3k damage or 30k damage. So LoH wins.

Best? LoH + fast or High Crit chance + High crit dmg (as per Sifu's advise)

alright. 1 hit eventhough multihit skill so basically LoH is much reliable option. Thanks


so if im using group hit skill like FoT, i would get 75% of 600 Loh/target? consider like 75% of 600* 5 target?

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Added on July 19, 2012, 11:59 amso meaning life steal might be benefit to those slow attacking but huge dps dmg. example 2h using 1.6k dps weapon boosted up to above 100k dps

This post has been edited by KIntos: Jul 19 2012, 11:59 AM

yes. at our current DPS, LoH is definitely better.

but in long run, LoH has a few problem:

1. LoH will not give you life if you use Sweeping Wind's Cyclone or other DoT (Exploding Palm) attacks. Life steal may... i say may because i cant find any info on this. Will buy some life steal weapon and test this when i get enough $. imaging Exploding Palm's Essense Burn that will affect multiple targets...
2. LoH will not increase due to your crit chance and crit damage.

You mean if sweeping wind is active I won't get life per hit?

What about dual wield with one hand LoH and another hand crit hit+crit dmg, will the actual damage take both into consideration upon EVERY HIT?

no, what i mean is, Sweeping wind itself will not give your Life if you are not hitting anything. but with Life Steal, u stand there, Sweeping wind do damage, you get Life...

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Added on July 19, 2012, 12:16 pmDual wield in Diablo works differently than other RPG. Each hand has it's own damage. Each hand take damage alternatively. So with your setup, first hit (with LoH), you get Life. Second hit with Crit hand, you will not get Life. *i think i m wrong in this part, need to research more*

But you still have 15% IAS by simply dual wield. If you use passive, you get another 15% chance to dodge.

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jul 19 2012, 12:32 PM

after reading this, one noob question. if I have one loh ring, it will have effect on both hands ?

Question :

Hand 1 : fist with crit dmg only
Hand 2 : spear with crit dmg and life steal 3%

will i get life steal every hit?

not sure, but i just assume la.

if use fist of thunder.

2nd and 3rd might get life steal.



i did research when i'm building for dual wield monk.
many theories or best advise from them are get both weapon which have almost similar stats.

in WoW, offhand are sure to hit slower. So they would put higher dps weapon on main hand and faster weapon on offhand. But in D3, they say both hand are kinda same.

Life on hit or Life steal on any part of your items. You will get it on every swing.

your noob question make me realize i could be wrong about the LoH on dual wield... will look into this after lunch hehehe... sorry for confusing others... hopefully some sifu can come and safe my a$$ by providing the correct theory...

I read it somewhere before in google.
If I still remember it correctly.

Life steal or Life on hit will stack. Doesn't matter which part has it, you will get it on your every hit be it main hand or off hand swing.

Like many pro explained, blizzard nerf the life steal in inferno. So, life on hit is better.

There's hidden scaling that reduce your life on hit/life steal based on the skill/rune that you use. Let say you hit one target with 100 LOH, you get 100% which is 100HP. IF your skill has small area of AOE, then the percentage will reduce. The bigger the AOE, the lower the percentage you're getting.

my target now is just to hit 50k dps unbuff and it will make my life so much easier in act3

non weapons LoH/IAS/Crit dmg etc affects globally. it's weapons that even myself am not sure of

true! Before this, i was a WD. Each skill have different amount of effect for LoH.
For monk, no people research yet. But i know Fist of Thunder is the best LoH skill.

many question mark on my brain liao.. lulz..

.. my first hand.. high cd with socket.. so i slot +70% cd gem....
.. my offhand.. high LOH with socket.. so i slot +400 LOH gem....

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shall i swap the gem? make it balance???

This post has been edited by cyruz13: Jul 19 2012, 01:00 PM

so how does LoH works on "way of the hundred fist" ?
if lets say i got 500 LoH, each mini hits = 500 LoH?
or 1 complete cycle = 500 LoH?

lol im guessing the latter but who knows?