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ALeUNe
post Sep 5 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Sep 5 2012, 11:20 AM)
My Barb, i stopped edy, cuz now always coop with my friend , as his a barb and warcry can only be use once.

And since i have a Monk, so i play Monk lo.
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Oh... then spend your gold on upgrading gears for your monk.
Target the next major upgrade.
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post Sep 5 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Sep 5 2012, 02:22 PM)
Barb seems to be a lot better  cry.gif my barb fren crits 1.2mil...though he die a lot but he's doing a lot of damage...
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You don't need high DPS for WW-Tornado Barb.
High LOH is a must.
(Of course, it would be godlike if you can build a WW-Tornado Barb with high DPS. That would be bloody darn expensive.)

WW-T is the best build, offensively and defensively.
It was already so immense before 1.04 patch.
It can kill mobs in bulk and gain XP in "bulk" too.

Look at this thread, it seems this Barb has reached LVL100.
(I couldn't view the video in my office. I believe it is WW-T build.)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2496781

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post Sep 6 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 5 2012, 09:51 PM)
how to check armor and AR from profile page eh?
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Armor is stated clearly there.

As for AR, you need to add total AR + total X resistance + Intelligence/10

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ALeUNe-6127/hero/20184013
i.e. 612 AR + 262 Phy Resist + 34 = 908
i.e. armor = 6170
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post Sep 6 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 6 2012, 12:46 AM)
just tank ghom in act3 lol... change all my gear, and bought 2 LoH weapon, its easier to tank stuff now with 1.6k LoH and 1k AR

armor kinda low though..should i change to MoC with hard target?
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Yeap, it is a lot easier with high LOH.
But one thing I found, I tend to get complacent.
I tend to teleport into the middle fire+poison+arcane.
And I see flying corpse few seconds later without knowing that was mine. laugh.gif

With Barb's WC + MoH, my AR is about 1580+.
AR does help in tanking.

It should be MoE/Hard target, right?
What is your current armor?
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post Sep 6 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 6 2012, 10:49 AM)
on the profile page it shows 5442, not sure that counted enchantress skill or not

updated profile

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/waklu-6726/hero/16158459
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5400+ armor is normal for dual-wield.
I think it is all right to keep armor at that level.

By the way, I think you need to replace one of your rings.

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post Sep 6 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 6 2012, 11:09 AM)
yeah the accessories set was from my "previous" dps set..

so the "lazy man" accerioes specs would be
LoH
single ress
all ress
DEX/VIT
combination of either ChC/CDMG/AIS

this gonna be costly bro..
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Yeap, gears could expensive.

This is why I put away crit dmg (no socket/no crit dmg on the weapon).
General rule, I just make sure I have at least 20K DPS + high LOH (the more the merrier, of course).
I got pretty cheap weapons. And I got "lazy+complacent man" build. laugh.gif



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post Sep 8 2012, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Sep 7 2012, 04:57 PM)
I'm always with shield. If want duel wield then really need over 70k dps only can farm comfortable.

Weapon's price suddenly drop so much. All aim for legendary?  sweat.gif
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I have 26K DPS (unbuffed).
I have no problem to farm at A3/A4. laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Sep 10 2012, 02:25 PM)
Bro, how do I make my punch more powerful? By increase the dexterity or strength?
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First thing first, get a better weapon. Do not just look at the DPS, look at the damage range too.

Just to give you a general idea, 800DPS weapon with DEX + 70% crit dmg is almost equivalent to weapon with 1150 DPS (without DEX & crit DMG).
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post Sep 10 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2012, 02:16 PM)
Can you guys take a look at my monk and see in which area i can improve gear wise? have about 17m to spend now. thanks.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/h11g-1455/hero/6789508
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First thing first, upgrade your gems.

You should be able to complete inferno with your current stats.
To have a better survival (in farming), you need either high DPS (kill monster fast) or LOH.
Either way will do.


Added on September 10, 2012, 3:41 pmAny taker? 8m.

Excellent item for your offhand.
Get this and you are half way to "whack-like-a-boss". laugh.gif

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post Sep 10 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2012, 03:42 PM)
high dps is too expensive now, i guess ill go the loh route. thanks.

also for farming in act 3, how much loh will you recommened? 1000?
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I would suggest at least 2200+.
You need at least 900+ LOH for each weapon, and another 400+ LOH from Amulet or rings.

You will see huge difference when it comes to elite/boss fights.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ALeUNe-6127/
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post Sep 10 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ Sep 10 2012, 03:58 PM)
Oh... you are the yesterday monk helping my wizzy at azmadon biggrin.gif
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Yeap, my job was "just whack". laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2012, 04:30 PM)
on my current gear once i step out act 3 keep dying
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Your 24K HP is too low.
3K Armor is too low too (dual wield, you should expect at least 5K armor).

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post Sep 10 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2012, 04:40 PM)
ok because i got 818 resistance with owe and i thought that shud be enuff, the best way to increase armor is to change my gear right?
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Your AR is good.
Try to get 5K armor (Unbuffed. The more the merrier, of course).

You have low armor and vitality.
I'm afraid you need to change some gears.

P/S With low HP, you should not insert Ruby in your helm.
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post Sep 10 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Sep 10 2012, 04:48 PM)
Sorry guys but what is LOH?
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post Sep 10 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2012, 04:52 PM)
yeah i used to have +15% hp on my helm, but because i cant step into act 3 at all, so i add a ruby and farm act 1 instead. @@

we can only get armor from gears? or shud i increase my dex at the same time? cuz i notice my dex is kinda low compared to the peeps here.
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There are 3 ways to improve armor.
1) Armor from gears
2) DEX with passive skills
3) STR

I got 733 STR/armor from my gears/weapon.
You can't have 200 DEX in every gear.
So, STR comes into a role to give you more armor.

Let me give you some examples,
1) The belt is effectively giving 687 armor.
2) The weapon gives me 265 armor too. It is not necessary to get DEX in my monk's weapon. I can get DEX from other gears/weapon.



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post Sep 12 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Sep 12 2012, 10:45 AM)
I recommend DPS Rechner as well, as Im using it. Use this and you will NEVER go wrong on buying items in terms of upgrading, as you can compare with the gears that you have VS the gears you wanna buy.

It shows the diff whether is it decreasing or upgrading.

Thanks to this, i use to think Crit Dmg is a big vital prop, ever since using this, i feel crit dmg is nothing.

My previous crit dmg is at about 500+, now i lowered to 402 only, but my other stats all have been up ( AS, Dex, Crit Chance ).

Now i run unbuff at 61K and Buff at 75k.

Just sold Depth Diggers and Inna Embrance, got about 101Mil. Plan to hit unbuff 70k now.

But items r kinda expensive nowadays. :-(
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In solo mode + follower.
With 40K+ DPS, monk can kill normal monster in 1-2 hits.
With 70K unbuffed, you can kill most of the monsters in 1 hit. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(clautee @ Sep 12 2012, 11:33 AM)
As what ALeUNe shared before, you need high LOH for better survivability. Personally i don't like standing and spam hit button. If you look at my weapons, both 7xx dps only  laugh.gif
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I think it depends on you play solo or co-op.

In solo game, high DPS + attack speed will do just fine. It would be easier with LOH/LS/LPSS.

In co-op game, it will be very different. You need higher LOH to stay on the game.
You won't kill monsters in few hits (unless you have 70K DPS and above).

Generally, patch 104 changed the whole game play. It is a lot easier now + drop of legendaries. laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 12 2012, 11:47 AM)
how about 2.4k LoH + 3% LS (ALeUNe)? wack like a boss...  laugh.gif

anyway, i like different play style... killing things fast make me feel my monk awesome...

this is from my previous video at 0:25... i just like to see it!  laugh.gif
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Those are the impressive damage. lust.gif

I don't have skills. And my play style is rather complacent too.
Just whack. laugh.gif

I am not sure I can do hardcore or not.
Looking at my play style, I think I can only survive up to A2.

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Sep 12 2012, 11:37 AM)
I have 8xx dps + 9xx loh + socket and 7xx dps + 8xx loh + socket.. Tried duel wield with around 1.8k LOH but still not my playstyle.. I'm too lazy to move so much when there's poison / fire..

Unless i can hit 100k+ dps la..
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You can use Ghom as a benchmark.
You know you have adequate LOH if you can whack Ghom without kiting.
You can also use Azmodan's goo and Diablo's fire to test your LOH.
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 12 2012, 12:02 PM)
don't forget, i play mainly coop.
if situation is bad, can always shield. else, it's just coop'ing with baddies that aren't carrying their measly share of +75% monster health.

i made it clear to my friends who wants to coop with me to have at least around 30k+ dps. (obviously without SS for DHs)
which almost everyone and their mom is achieving that to be very frank save a few darn casual/soloers that still thinks MF/GF gears (and farming non act 3 to add in to the stupidity) are worth wearing for.

tldr: it isn't really a matter of solo or coop, its if your ally can carry the additional 75% hp or not properly
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That's when LOH come into play.
There were many instances all 3 players died and I needed to kill the boss alone (especially in public games). There was no time to revive other players anyway (I don't have movement speed on my boots. Too slow to move. tongue.gif ).

My shield didn't let me stay long in the game. And I sold it many months ago.

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