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ALeUNe
post Aug 13 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(gjtan @ Aug 13 2012, 03:13 PM)
Ello all senoir monk.this is my monk profiles, http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TanGuoJ...0/hero/23023780. C & C pls smile.gif
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Monk doesn't need a shield. You can go dual-wield.
Generally you should be doing fine with 20K DPS / 5K Armor / 600 AR / 600 LOH.
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post Aug 13 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 13 2012, 05:39 PM)
It's kind of sad to see that everyone resolved into about the same type of skill (mostly defensive skill):

- Breath of Heaven
- Serenity
- Blinding flash / Sweeping Wind
- Mantra of Evasion / Mantra of Conviction

Good thing is Bliz aware of this, trying to fix this in patch 1.04. I am kind of excited to find out improvement to offensive skill.
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2 scenarios.
1) Those with godly gears can kill elites in 3 seconds.
2) Those with shitty gears have to rely on defensive skills to survive in next 3 seconds.

Everyone can do 1 and 2.
What makes them different is, gold in the pocket.
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post Aug 14 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Coconut @ Aug 14 2012, 12:13 PM)
I just realised Dex doesn't increase much of your dps, i have about 2k dex now, but my dps is so much lower than you guys.

Now slowly change to crit chance and crit damage, have to change most of the things....broke..
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What is your DPS now?
You need balance of DEX and crit attributes.


P/S DEX gives you ARMOR too.

P/S You need to calculate how much DPS you can get from the gear.
Just a quick one,
1 DEX = 9 DPS
1% crit chance = 10% crit DMG = 81.84 DPS
1 min/max weapon DMG = 10.85 DPS

P/S If an amulet with 4.5% crit chance + 30% crit DMG with no DEX, any amulet with more than 70 DEX will give you more DPS.
Do not forget, DEX gives you armor too.
All in all, it depends on your current build. You need to calculate what you need to improve.
For your case, anyway, I think the switching cost is unavoidable and it could be costly.

P/S For some reason, I think the crit build is over-hyped.
I'm not saying it is not important. It is important as you need it to MAX OUT your DPS.
But it is just not crit > DEX.
You need a balance build.


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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 14 2012, 12:17 PM)
my chc is 41% using single hand axe and shield
but a fren with 35% chc dual weld fist weapon can spawn tornados around the same rate as me

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Err... I am not sure how crit chance relate to tornados spawning.

I used to change my amulet in order to have higher LOH and AR, my crit chance % reduced from 20% to 16%.
I used a slow weapon, 1.2 spear.
I could spawn 4-5 tornados in 3-4 hits. It is exactly the same with higher crit %.

However, to generate tornados, I found it is skill and gear related.
For instance, dual-wield can easily spawn tornados as compared to 1-hand with shield.
For instance, FoT can instantly spawn 2-3 tornados as compared to WoTHF.

Just my experience.
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post Aug 14 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 14 2012, 04:56 PM)
but im curious about about ALeUNe's statement that i've bolded. how is it possible to spawn 5 tornados in 4 hits (with sweeping wind charged up) with a 1.2 atk speed spear with around 20% chc?
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I could even spawn 3-4 tornadoes with the 1st hit.
As Quazacolt explained, it is a critical hit.
FoT can hit multiple target. If your 1st hit is a critical hit and it hits multiple target, it will spawn few tornadoes.

I couldn't explain it. This is how I did. tongue.gif
Averagely, I can spawn 3-4 tornadoes in 3-4 hits. That is very common.
Beside gear and skill, it depends on how many targets/monsters. If you have more targets to hit, you have more chance to spawn tornadoes.


Added on August 14, 2012, 5:34 pm
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 14 2012, 05:18 PM)
i have been saving $ to build my "Lucky 7" monk:

- 70,000 DPS
- 7,000 armour
- 700 resist

Trade Mark! All right reversed...
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With those stats, you can moonwalk in A3/A4. laugh.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 5:37 pm
QUOTE(Slythape @ Aug 14 2012, 05:01 PM)
I am assuming aluene is dualwielding. Difference from a 1.3 attack speed with an axe to a 1.6ish attack speed with dualwielding fists is pretty big, that 6% crit is not a huge factor.
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Yes, I dual-wield with 2 spears.
Never had a problem to spawn tornadoes.

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post Aug 17 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 17 2012, 12:50 PM)
anyone knows how the 8% FoT damage calculates?
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My monk doesn't have +% skill damage.

But my Demon Hunter has +9% hungering arrow on the quiver.
It just add the damage as description, as simple as that.
Without the quiver, my DPS is about 87K.
With the quiver, it is 95K+ DPS. Sometimes it can even hit up to 100K+ DPS.
It is something good to have.

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post Aug 17 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 17 2012, 02:15 PM)
I don't think the skill % shows in your character DPS sheet. In fact it just work like how Quaza explained, total DPS / damage dealt + X %
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It doesn't show DPS on your character information page.
The DPS that I mentioned is the damage I see on the screen when I shoot the monsters.
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post Aug 17 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Aug 17 2012, 03:00 PM)
guys got any amulet for sale? stats for monk, like dex/vit/AR or sth. i've been trying to buy/bid amulets for over a month, somehow there seemed to be AH bots around zzz...
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What are the attributes of your current amulet?
Let me check if I have something better than your current amulet or not.

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post Aug 17 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Aug 17 2012, 03:21 PM)
blue with 199dex/98vit, i dunno wad i wanna focus right now, mebe dmg/dex/vit/AR or just dmg/dex/Arcane/AR or just dex/vit/AR.

do u think there's anything under 1 mil? laugh.gif
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What's your current DPS/Armor/HP/AR?
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post Aug 17 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 17 2012, 05:17 PM)
Aside from all the AR/Armor/Main Stats...
Amulet: CC/CD/LoH/IAS/Socket, so are ring
Glove: CC/CD/IAS
Weapon: DPS/CD/LoH/socket
Helm: CC/Life%/Socket

Sauce: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-...maximum-values/


Added on August 17, 2012, 5:27 pm
On average your gear are not ok for A3/4 as we mostly focus on:
5k armor, 500AR, 25k DPS, [CC20%/CD200%] or [LoH1.5k], HP 30k.

I used the above to end the game but A3 ok ok only. A4 kite till no tomorrow. Our IDEAL build (keep on dreaming yo):

2.5k dex, 7k Armor, 700AR, 50k dps, CC35%/300%CD, HP 50k.
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1.5K LOH is quite a lot.
800 LOH and above should be fine for A3/A4.
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post Aug 17 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 17 2012, 06:49 PM)
if you are constantly criting just 50k dmg on 3% leech its already 1.5k hp leeched per hit?
am i saying this right?....

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You only get 20% out of 1.5K.


Added on August 18, 2012, 3:41 am
QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 17 2012, 06:49 PM)
2.5k dex (X)
7k armor (√)
700 AR (√)
50dps (X) almost
CC35% (√)
300% CD (X) 1h 1shield T_T
HP 50k (X)

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somehow i feel life leech % is much better than LoH...
if you are constantly criting just 50k dmg on 3% leech its already 1.5k hp leeched per hit?
am i saying this right?....

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You have got very good Crit% / Armor / AR.
2500 DEX is a bit extreme.
IMO, any DEX more than 1800 is good enough.

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post Aug 19 2012, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 18 2012, 05:37 PM)
thanks~
i just bought a new pair of boots +50dex from my previous, +alot more armor, +3res
but pickup radius = 0 (which is damn annoying)
so dex improved to 2136 now.

gonna try act3 tonight...should be tough
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You have a good stats. You should be able to do A3.
With your high DEX, I think your DPS should be good too.

I think it is important to have pickup radius for melee heroes.
You need to pick up health globes. laugh.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(rekuken @ Aug 20 2012, 01:38 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rekuken...0/hero/12176754

should i take off my shield and play duel sword? i have a dagger with +950 life steal , 650 dps, and 6% extra damage on elite...
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Yeap, removing the shield still gives you 6000 Armor. Your resistance AR + Physical resistance are pretty good too. It's enough.
Monk doesn't need a shield. You can dual-wield all the way.

Just your HP, 26K, is a bit low.
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post Aug 21 2012, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 21 2012, 08:25 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sn00bz-6959/hero/10785073

im thinking to shop for some upgrades but im dont necessarily have the gold yet...
but i dunno how to buff my dps anymore....(sticking with shileld tongue.gif)

cant any sifu advice which of my gear can maybe add attack speed % or crit dmg
i think i can sacrifice some amount of crit chance as im currently on 42.5% + default 5% = 47.5 % crit chance

the calculation of how much CD or IAS will improve my dps too complicated...pening liao~
later beli already den see drop dps sure sakit hati

also example like my bracers, isit worth it to spend a few mil (like 6-9mil?) for a 30-40 dex upgrade?
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I don't see a point to have a minor upgrade (like you said, 30-40 DEX increase).
It doesn't give any real impact.

You seek an upgrade because you wanna run like a boss.
What about an upgrade that let you run like a boss in A3/A4?
What about keep your DPS level while you increase your LOH to at least 2200?
Meaning you need to change your weapons (you'll need 2 weapons to achieve that), amulet and rings (optional).

Put away your shield. You don't need that.
Your armor and AR are good enough.

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post Aug 22 2012, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Aug 22 2012, 07:54 AM)
one thing for sure is i will not go for LoH
i rather go for Life per spirit spent + transcendence
example dual weld fist both with 40 life per spirit spent + transcendence (40 + 40 + 62 x 150 = 21300hp each full spirit pool) + serenity + breath of heaven
should be more than enuf.

will look forward to this in the future
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Yes, you can spam the per spirit spent (provided you have high spirit generation).
Let's not forget, you need to keep pressing the keyboard key while your eyes looking at the screen + your another head keep clicking the mouse.
It could be quite stressful at times. laugh.gif

Well, it's up to you how you want to play it.


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post Aug 23 2012, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(anechoic @ Aug 22 2012, 05:42 PM)
can i think...my noob monk finally kill ghom after 20+ tries i laugh.gif .. cc 26% and cd 100% only  sweat.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/craps-6613/hero/5817248
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With the new patch, my monk just stands and whacks Ghom like a boss. No kiting. laugh.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(joedpa82 @ Aug 23 2012, 09:42 AM)
OMFG. i enjoyed D3 last night. lvl 1 paragon achieved.
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You get bored soon... very soon. laugh.gif

It is so slow to increase level after that.
WW-Tornado Barb FTW. laugh.gif

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post Aug 23 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 23 2012, 06:07 PM)
Server restart...  sad.gif i have 5 stack NV...

According to patch note:

Act III and Act IV
Normal monster health increased by 10%
Elite monster health reduced by 2.5%
Overall damage done by all monsters reduced by 15%

Using WoHF, somehow, I kill normal mobs faster than previously when I was using FoT. And the 15% reduced damage is a lot! anyway, i m now farming in Act3...
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Yeap, A3 is getting easy now.

I think Barbs are the happiest ones after this patch.
They whack and run like boss now.
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(bblaz @ Aug 24 2012, 01:12 PM)
guys, any ideas to hunt gobs down without using FoT in solo act? thanks smile.gif
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Why only FoT? If you have high DPS, you can use any skill to kill goblins.
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QUOTE(alvinfcj @ Aug 24 2012, 01:22 PM)
All sifu, I'm so stuck with my gear n dunno what to upgrade from here... Anybody can give me some advise.. Much appreciate...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SanZo-6183/hero/19048200
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Your stats are good enough to clear Inferno.

Still want to upgrade?
I think you can upgrade your weapon, especially your off-hand weapon.
And upgrade the gems.
These are more realistic upgrades for you, I guess.

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