yup agree..

seriously.... no.

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Added on July 9, 2012, 4:41 pmfrenzy and/or weapons master.

barbs can dual wield too.

FFS monks that dont know jack bout barb just go ask out/read up barb thread, like wise for barbs not knowing jack about monks.

god this thread is painful.

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Added on July 9, 2012, 4:43 pmand now we get melee DH, so... painful....

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Added on July 9, 2012, 4:48 pmdoesnt stack. its based on your max hp. i am talking about barb's life leeching skills (eg: blood thirst, revenge with life leeching rune etc)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 9 2012, 04:48 PM

Kung Fu Barb Diablo run on Normal tonight. No weapons, no shield. Punch all the way!

Ive seen some pure tank dh with crazy thorn build.(iirc his thorn is about 13k, and hes still stacking for more @_@)
Basically he just stand still, put setry and loh with caltrops, and the rare occasion against ranged use grenades.

His weakness are knockbacks and fear as they force him away from his sentry haha.

As far as loh skill goes, dh is the most imba with caltrops proccing every 1/2 sec I think.
Dh also have grenade skill which have loh multiplier by 3.

teach me, master.

Melee Dh painful? So far it's fun to play lor. Stand there spam caltrops and lightning balls. Pew pew pew until run out of hatred. If manage to M4D on high HP target then hatred lasts longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...Or9_gwk#t=3117s

Jay Wilson:"So why? Why Viable over optimal? Why are we even talking about this? So, Diablo has tons and tons of customization, we did the math on the new skill systems with the combination of passives and runes and we threw a crazy number out, uh, a few years back like 69 Billion, we're really more in the area of 2.8 Trillion- Trillion? Trillion. [2.8] Trillion builds. So that's a lot of builds. Um, and why? Why so many builds? Because customization is self expression, and if you have to build a character to be perfectly optimized, that's not really going to allow you to customize that character. So our job is to make sure that, yeah, that, you know, while there might be some best builds there's tons and tons of viable ones. It's totally okay for there to be best builds, it's totally okay for someone to go 'you know what, I made this Barbarian and he's got like 0.5% more damage than any other build you can possibly make.' And you know what, there's nothing wrong with that...unless you can't...unless that number becomes 'oh this, this Barbarian's like 50% more powerful.' So if we can get enough builds into that range of 'these are all viable, they can play at the max level.' It means you can play the character you want to play at max level and not be beholding anyone. So what we say is, go out, have fun, be free and make the Diablo character you want to make."


This excerpt from Jay Wilson before D3 was released sums it up well. How many builds are we looking at that are actually viable at max level (Inferno)? Where are our tonnes of viable builds?

This post has been edited by statikinetic: Jul 10 2012, 12:18 AM

my melee DH just beat the Inferno mode butcher, solo. i ish happy. later I brought another barb who just reach level 60 go hit. also none died. me rikes me melee DH.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 15 2017, 09:17 AM

well my build can do both.

initially i was just doing DPS and running around exactly like what you mentioned. I hit until his likfe is ||||| <=-- this amount left (about 5%) and then I died due to fire fire fire. I got 700+ fire resist but amidst the confusion i ter-KO.

then I got tired of trying la, my NV x5 also gone already. (took time to study him, and my character) - I really don't wish to spend more money just to defeat butcher.

it's not that one has to be melee to fight butcher, it just so happen build is LOH + Lregen based so I used it to my advantage.

will try Ghom. hehe.

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Added on July 10, 2012, 11:41 amproblem is i haven't reach Act III.

solo is easier than coop no matter how you slice it. even AFTER coop dmg nerf.

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Added on July 10, 2012, 12:10 pmgood luck man, assuming you reach act 3 someday

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 10 2012, 12:10 PM

thanks I haven't been getting to play Act I / II because my previous builds suck.

my previous builds suck so bad, I can't even whack Elites properly. end up spending time on Act III Hell Mode.

you want me to break it to you that melee DH's aren't exactly the best of builds?

i mean, sure, melee wiz works, but thats cuz they have retarded imba skill scaling that exceeds even barbs/monks, which i find funny.

ehh. I'm playing this game for fun la. everyone go "best build" direction then difficult already. I just want to enjoy the game, it may not be the best build but I just like to see how far I can go with it.

+1. FUN..is the goal...

and that is a wrap Sir. I am also trying to build a mily DH. Stacking AR/LOH and shield with 1x cross bow. I trying to get about 1K LOH. So far can get about 700..tried Act 1..boleh pakai. Act 2...errr..need to put more

and that's fine too.

hey, it actually proves jay wilson's statement on viable builds in d3! LOL!

I bought my monk friend some weapon upgrades, but he tossed them aside because he will only use fists

just sold some stuff on AH for 1.7m. I just don't remember what it was, Discordant Scourge was the name. Darn AH for not letting me remember what the item. hehe.

Melee inferno viability = only as far as early Act 3 if you only rely on drops and budget items from AH. Tanking in Act 3 is extremely painful, weakest mobs hit me for 3k upwards, some mobs hit me for 10k+, and I have 1k+ resists and 9.5k armor. I can clear Act 2 with full stack NV easily, but not act 3.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Jul 14 2012, 02:03 PM