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Chris Chew
post Sep 1 2012, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 1 2012, 12:50 AM)
Only block C is almost sold out I believe. All the big units >1 million. SDB is overly ambitious given the location.
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My goodness, big units with > 1mil ...



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post Sep 1 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 01:22 AM)
What's the price range for the 16xx sqft units?
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1680sqf should be between 820K++ - 960K++

What SDB offering is something unique in Cheras, comparing to altitude236, I would still prefer WOTP as the unit layout is something you can't find, long spacious space, designed like a landed unit. The huge balcony and the huge park is something can't find anywhere else in Cheras.

Although the location is a little deeper inside it has so much more potential compares to altitude236, there's still lands to be developed at the surrounding, MRT is 4K away, best of all it's in a quiet residential area, I guess it will be much more serene.


It's expensive, but 3 years later. All lower end condo will be more expensive than this. My opinion is based on my own stay, I can't be sure for investment wise.
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post Sep 1 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(maverickzack @ Sep 1 2012, 11:13 AM)
1680sqf should be between 820K++ - 960K++

What SDB offering is something unique in Cheras, comparing to altitude236, I would still prefer WOTP as the unit layout is something you can't find, long spacious space, designed like a landed unit. The huge balcony and the huge park is something can't find anywhere else in Cheras.

Although the location is a little deeper inside it has so much more potential compares to altitude236, there's still lands to be developed at the surrounding, MRT is 4K away, best of all it's in a quiet residential area, I guess it will be much more serene.
It's expensive, but 3 years later. All lower end condo will be more expensive than this. My opinion is based on my own stay, I can't be sure for investment wise.
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Almost same price range as Foresta Damansara for the same size. For own stay, definitely no issue.


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post Sep 1 2012, 11:30 AM

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How long is the driving to kl city centre says klcc and back to home in this place ? During peak hours in morning n evening?
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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 11:17 AM)
Almost same price range as Foresta Damansara for the same size. For own stay, definitely no issue.
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Foresta is on a hiltop, built on slopes, with overly crowded place. Once all the units are done, they will be 2,700 units.
They have more facilities there but their maintainance fee are 0.33 cents, and frankly I don't like the design, the more complicated the design, the sooner it will looks old, think of it in the next 5 years.


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QUOTE(maverickzack @ Sep 1 2012, 12:11 PM)
Foresta is on a hiltop, built on slopes, with overly crowded place. Once all the units are done, they will be 2,700 units.
They have more facilities there but their maintainance fee are 0.33 cents, and frankly I don't like the design, the more complicated the design, the sooner it will looks old, think of it in the next 5 years.
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It's 0.25 cents, not 0.33. Btw, totally different area / market. I was just comparing the price point.


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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 12:30 PM)
It's 0.25 cents, not 0.33. Btw, totally different area / market. I was just comparing the price point.
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Just went to Foresta showroom. Their facilities looks good, but still it's on a hill, that seems like a drawback, it's not as spacious and a lot of staircases. The canopy looks cool, at the back of those blocks, but the path leads to a dead ends, it doesn't form a lap - (if you into running, you know what I mean, it sucks to turn back after you ran to a dead end and with those slopes,..it's not gonna be a good place to run).

The units are from 1400sqf to 1600sqf, with a typical square and L shapes layouts. Their windows are larger, looks better than what WOTP offers and Balcony fences are glasses made and pretty huge!. Balcony are quite alright although not as big as WOTP's, don't really like their balcony. The larger unit (1600sqf) offer Bathtub and have two basins in their master bedroom unit, but they don't offer built-in wardrobes, fridge and microwave..

Their units are actually cheaper than WOTP slightly, but overall concept, material quality and layouts, WOTP are definitely better and classier. Foresta are overly decorated, in my opinion. Look closely and study the surrounding area, Foresta park area is actually just on the left hillside and the back area from the entrance view. It isn't exactly built right 'in the park', it isn't exactly the same concept as WOTP. The pool, gym, most of the main facilities is on an man-made open center space, with not much of greenery.

Look at Five Stones, SS2.. It's really awesome just by looking at the exterior, it's all about quality and trust, thats where exactly where the money goes to I guess.

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QUOTE(maverickzack @ Sep 1 2012, 06:45 PM)
Just went to Foresta showroom. Their facilities looks good, but still it's on a hill, that seems like a drawback, it's not as spacious and a lot of staircases. The canopy looks cool, at the back of those blocks, but the path leads to a dead ends, it doesn't form a lap - (if you into running, you know what I mean, it sucks to turn back after you ran to a dead end and with those slopes,..it's not gonna be a good place to run).

The units are from 1400sqf to 1600sqf, with a typical square and L shapes layouts. Their windows are larger, looks better than what WOTP offers and Balcony fences are glasses made and pretty huge!. Balcony are quite alright although not as big as WOTP's, don't really like their balcony. The larger unit (1600sqf) offer Bathtub and have two basins in their master bedroom unit, but they don't offer built-in wardrobes, fridge and microwave..

Their units are actually cheaper than WOTP slightly, but overall concept, material quality and layouts, WOTP are definitely better and classier. Foresta are overly decorated, in my opinion. Look closely and study the surrounding area, Foresta park area is actually just on the left hillside and the back area from the entrance view. It isn't exactly built right 'in the park', it isn't exactly the same concept as WOTP. The pool, gym, most of the main facilities is on an man-made open center space, with not much of greenery.

Look at Five Stones, SS2.. It's really awesome just by looking at the exterior, it's all about quality and trust, thats where exactly where the money goes to I guess.
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U can also view the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=LcYPJ201dLI

Btw, its the closest concept with Kinrara Rimba Residence and WOTP. Anyway, back to the main thread/topic.

How much is the maintanance fees for WOTP?



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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 07:20 PM)
U can also view the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=LcYPJ201dLI

Btw, its the closest concept with Kinrara Rimba Residence and WOTP. Anyway, back to the main thread/topic.

How much is the maintanance fees for WOTP?
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Its the same 0.25 cent, less facilities but bigger park space. The facilities will shared by 500+ units(WOTP) vs 900+ units residents(Foresta).
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post Sep 1 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(maverickzack @ Sep 1 2012, 07:28 PM)
Its the same 0.25 cent, less facilities but bigger park space. The facilities will shared by 500+ units(WOTP) vs 900+ units residents(Foresta).
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Yup agreed. WOTP has advantage in terms of density.


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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 07:39 PM)
Yup agreed. WOTP has advantage in terms of density.
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Too many facilities are also hard to maintain for long run...
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post Sep 1 2012, 11:54 PM

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The number of units in wotp should around 437 units in 8.9 acre . Meaning 49 unit per acre. Damn low density No any developer wiling to sacrifice the land for park and the window atleast lost number of units too except SDB .
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QUOTE(maverickzack @ Aug 31 2012, 08:30 PM)
Here's the latest Availability Chart of 1680sqf and above, Block A, I've taken last week, just to share with you guys.
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Around 50% sold, market is surely slowing down...
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It's really something unique here SDB offering, but I think Cheras residents wouldn't appreciate such details and concepts, they always prioritize of space. RM800K most of them would rather go for Alam Damai Perdana SemiD or UDA properties.

I think thats the main reason, its not selling that well those 1600sqf and above units especially Penthouses.

On the opposite of the road (Carrefour side), most of the developments are by UDA, what about those development on WOTP side? Anyone have any idea? If you view from Google Map, there's a huge empty land, although the actual location are busy on development, when on the way to WOTP, will be able to see that.
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today window shop at show room , the concept is breath taking...but 800++k is abit too hard to digest....(been cheras almost two decade) loll.....
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i had been in cheras over 2 decades ... and i think this project is sot sot dei cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif

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QUOTE(shadowofevil @ Sep 3 2012, 12:06 AM)
today window shop at show room , the concept is breath taking...but 800++k is abit too hard to digest....(been cheras almost two decade) loll.....
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Lol, yeah a little high on the price, frankly I think so too, but thats a 1680sft, pretty large space. I think those leftover units are 900K+..
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post Sep 3 2012, 02:20 PM

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Those buying 900K ++ WOTP for investment have my respect.

They can see something that Ican't.

This is the different of big boy and small boy.

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post Sep 3 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 1 2012, 07:39 PM)
Yup agreed. WOTP has advantage in terms of density.
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WOTP is 540 units on 8.9 acres so per acre density is 60.7 units

I took the 53,274 sq meter for Phase 1 of Foresta (as per S&P) and that's convert to 13.2 acres. 928 units over 13.2 acres is 70.3 units.

Not sure is the above correct, if yes, the density for WOTP is lower by 10 units per acre...

WOTP has 4.2 acres of park on 8.9 acres of land so community space is 47%. Aragreens has 4.76 acres of community space on 7.5 acres of land and at 63% they claim to have the highest ratio of community space in the market.

I wonder does my computation above make sense??
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Sep 3 2012, 03:34 PM)
WOTP is 540 units on 8.9 acres so per acre density is 60.7 units

I took the 53,274 sq meter for Phase 1 of Foresta (as per S&P) and that's convert to 13.2 acres. 928 units over 13.2 acres is 70.3 units.

Not sure is the above correct, if yes, the density for WOTP is lower by 10 units per acre...

WOTP has 4.2 acres of park on 8.9 acres of land so community space is 47%. Aragreens has 4.76 acres of community space on 7.5 acres of land and at 63% they claim to have the highest ratio of community space in the market.

I wonder does my computation above make sense??
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Wow, aragreens is huge! 1.4km running path, thats sexy!
When is the completion date? Any how idea how much per unit for the size in between 1500 - 1800 sqft, if they have any?

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