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 Inverter vs Non Inverter Aircon ., Really save electricity ?

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post May 9 2015, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(dat_chong @ May 9 2015, 01:26 AM)
agreed , it cool down kinda slow ... normal non-inverter really a lot faster...
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Inverter also depend which brand or model..

Like Daikin GA inverter much faster cooling down than others expansive brand.

Inverter work also much stable and keep more comfortable all the time, unlike non inverter suddenly too cold or too warm.
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post May 9 2015, 12:19 PM

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Anyone has one ? please share the in term of saving.. of electricity here.
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post May 9 2015, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 9 2015, 09:11 AM)
Inverter also depend which brand or model..

Like Daikin GA inverter much faster cooling down than others expansive brand.

Inverter work also much stable and keep more comfortable all the time, unlike non inverter suddenly too cold or too warm.
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With this statement, I'm quite sure you install your air cond next to your bed whistling.gif
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post May 9 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2015, 01:01 PM)
With this statement, I'm quite sure you install your air cond next to your bed whistling.gif
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No wow, my living hall can cold as efficient for whole area as well..

Anyway Aircon mfg knew that what you pay and what you get.

here hs few question.

1. Rich ppls always go for cheap brand, cause they can afford TNB bill.

2. Poor ppls always think for energy saving.

3. Average would be go for non-inverter cause they needs for cooling as short while only.

4. Nosie sensitive aways go for quiet & high tech design or inverter model, cause they needs comfort and quiet operation as well.

How bout you whistling.gif



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post May 9 2015, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 9 2015, 01:22 PM)
No wow, my living hall can cold as efficient for whole area as well..

Anyway Aircon mfg knew that what you pay and what you get.

here hs few question.

1. Rich ppls always go for cheap brand, cause they can afford TNB bill.

2. Poor ppls always think for energy saving.

3. Average would be go for non-inverter cause they needs for cooling as short while only.

4. Nosie sensitive aways go for quiet & high tech design or inverter model, cause they needs comfort and quiet operation as well.

How bout you whistling.gif
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I'm sure you are on 1. My bill still rm50-60 only. Inverter unable to help me.

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2015, 01:24 PM)
I'm sure you are on 1. My bill still rm50-60 only. Inverter unable to help me.
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Cause your reason go with normal stand fan laugh.gif
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post May 9 2015, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 9 2015, 01:26 PM)
Cause your reason go with normal stand fan laugh.gif
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Nope, I won't waste rm1000 to save rm1.
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2015, 01:30 PM)
Nope, I won't waste rm1000 to save rm1.
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Cause you still never realise for human life spend is really short..

Dunno which day has been Jalan.. Now you never enjoy wait until you can't walk then to be enjoy again, that's too late..
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QUOTE(dat_chong @ May 9 2015, 12:19 PM)
Anyone has one ? please share the in term of saving.. of electricity here.
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1st look at daikin ga inverter really cold than pana inverter, in between you has save some energy already.

Cause from pana inverter needs set on 23c vs daikin GA inverter for 25C.

Just m'sian won't admit pana won't cold than others brand.
Unlike s'porean would said why my newer installed for pana brand inverter not longer cold to be set on 23c vs previous old model non inverter for 25c can be achieved the same amount of cooling

1. Buying Aircon would be very becareful to decide which brand at the 1st place.
2. Temperature pre-set n fan speed would be overall energy efficient

The best setting on 25C with low fan speed, then you never complain about midnight getting hot, that 's proper set-up

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 9 2015, 01:37 PM)
Cause you still never realise for human life spend is really short..

Dunno which day has been Jalan.. Now you never enjoy wait until you can't walk then to be enjoy again, that's too late..
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Well, frankly speaking I have no money to visit doctor regularly, and in order to visit doctors, using long period of air cond is 1 of the reason.
Everyone will die 1 day, nobody can avoid it, but a person can choose on die in suffer or die peacefully. And I'm quite sure using air cond too much will end up to die in suffer.

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2015, 02:37 PM)
Well, frankly speaking I have no money to visit doctor regularly, and in order to visit doctors, using long period of air cond is 1 of the reason.
Everyone will die 1 day, nobody can avoid it, but a person can choose on die in suffer or die peacefully. And I'm quite sure using air cond too much will end up to die in suffer.
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Ok Ok whistling.gif

Just wish you good luck for energy saving man
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post May 9 2015, 03:42 PM

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no AC is very difficult for me to sleep, not matter of money... imagine sweat the whole back ... and always get bad dream before that... next day how to work...
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QUOTE(dat_chong @ May 9 2015, 03:42 PM)
no AC is very difficult for me to sleep, not matter of money... imagine sweat the whole back ... and always get bad dream before that... next day how to work...
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That's true, same as me before..

Cold room for better sleep.

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post May 9 2015, 04:30 PM

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My bill just came.. ~RM100 extra now... I'm in the same house.. in a different room... moved from small room with 1hp inverter deluxe panasonic 2013 model.. now in a bigger room... 1hp non-inverter panasonic.. probably 8 years old air con...

Usage pattern is the same.. whole house only I stay here.. no extra electrical appliances.. other factor I believe... is that the compressor unit is under sun with no shading... previous room.. the compressor is shaded cause its at the back of the house..

I will monitor for another month... if really high.. time to get a new inverter.. either Daikin GA or Mitsubishi.. most likely I'll get the Daikin GA cause I'm cheap.. and Daikin GA parts & service plenty...

EDIT: Non-inverter.. I set between 24C to 26C... last time with inverter is always 22C to 24C.

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post May 9 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(dat_chong @ May 9 2015, 03:42 PM)
no AC is very difficult for me to sleep, not matter of money... imagine sweat the whole back ... and always get bad dream before that... next day how to work...
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Don't sweat during sleep are good shocking.gif
Do prepare another rm30-60k for chronic illness you will be getting sweat.gif
When we sleep, our body are discharging toxic from the sweat, if the toxic are not remove, you will have more problem later on.
Having nightmare is because you don't have quality of life, not because of the room is hot or cold. If your work are stressful, do look for ways to release the stress, regular exercise will help on this.
I seldom have nightmare for the past 8 years.
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post May 9 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ May 9 2015, 04:30 PM)
My bill just came.. ~RM100 extra now... I'm in the same house.. in a different room... moved from small room with 1hp inverter deluxe panasonic 2013 model.. now in a bigger room... 1hp non-inverter panasonic.. probably 8 years old air con...

Usage pattern is the same.. whole house only I stay here.. no extra electrical appliances.. other factor I believe... is that the compressor unit is under sun with no shading... previous room.. the compressor is shaded cause its at the back of the house..

I will monitor for another month... if really high.. time to get a new inverter.. either Daikin GA or Mitsubishi.. most likely I'll get the Daikin GA cause I'm cheap.. and Daikin GA parts & service plenty...

EDIT: Non-inverter.. I set between 24C to 26C... last time with inverter is always 22C to 24C.
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Just like that I can assume that the running time when the compressor kicks in are longer.
If you undersize the HP for the room, it will cause higher electricity bill.
Also have to consider the wiring is done properly or not, if the contacts are loose, it will cause such problem also.
Lastly, how long is the usage?
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 8 2015, 02:16 PM)
Is 1.2 units per hour, 12.9 units per hour you will be a dead duck already whistling.gif
When the outdoor unit cutoffs, it should using minimum power only, still have to depend how you set it.
If you set fan to Auto, then it will cut off the fan also.
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Ya 1.29unit haha .so unreferring to non -inverter rite? If work at max will be 1.29kwh after outdoor unit cut off. Is it still the same 1.2?
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QUOTE(cofeebean @ May 10 2015, 04:00 PM)
Ya 1.29unit haha .so unreferring to non -inverter rite? If work at max will be 1.29kwh after outdoor unit cut off. Is it still the same 1.2?
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Nope, it depends on you set the air cond, if fan set at auto, it will stop together also.
I always turn on the fan and air cond together.
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post May 11 2015, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2015, 04:41 PM)
Just like that I can assume that the running time when the compressor kicks in are longer.
If you undersize the HP for the room, it will cause higher electricity bill.
Also have to consider the wiring is done properly or not, if the contacts are loose, it will cause such problem also.
Lastly, how long is the usage?
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Usage same.. daily at night till morning i go to work.
Better monitor another month and see how.

But I'm happy with its performance, it cools very fast.

See bill how much.. if really RM100++.. then I'll be looking at a Daikin GA or ME inverter. But seriously why ME so much more expensive.

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post May 11 2015, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ May 11 2015, 01:20 AM)
Usage same.. daily at night till morning i go to work.
Better monitor another month and see how.

But I'm happy with its performance, it cools very fast.

See bill how much.. if really RM100++.. then I'll be looking at a Daikin GA or ME inverter. But seriously why ME so much more expensive.
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If usage is 1 whole night, just get the inverter.
As your usage are > 5 hours, sure will have difference.

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